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A Different Perspective

A lot of you are familiar with the Southwest Airlines Customer who was asked to cover up her outfit, and there has been a lot of attention devoted to this subject.  In fact, the Customer was on the Today Show this morning.  You might be interested in the perspective of one of the show's producers, Dan Fleschner.

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Shame on SWA for treating Ms. Kyla Ebbert in such a rude and unprofessional manner. I sincerely hope that SWA does have a written policy and trains flight attendants on how to handle this type of situation in initial and ongoing training. The arrogance of SWA personnel in instructing Ms. Ebbert to return home to change clothes or buy something in a very pricey airport gift shop is ludicrous. If I was writing an SWA policy I would state the following: "In the event that a passenger and/or SWA personnel find that another passenger's attire is unacceptable, defined as significantly offensive and potentially disruptive of flight operations or passenger safety, the flight attendant shall first determine that if, when seated, the attire would or would not remain objectionable i.e. by use of a blanket, a tray table, magazine, pillow or change of seats or the passenger remaining in his/her seat. If such a remedy exists, the passenger shall be privately and politely asked to utilize such a remedy for the duration of the flight. In the event that no such remedy exists or the passenger refuses to grant the SWA request, the flight attendant shall consult with the immediated supervisor and/or flight crew for a determination as to whether or not the passenger's presence on the flight would be dangerous or highly disruptive to flight operations and/or passenger safety." SWA airlines has a no seat assignment policy and people can sit wherever they choose and flight staff have a high degree of flexibility to move people accordingly. Any offensive person could sit in the very first row of seats or at the back of the plane in which case 95% of the passengers wouldn't even be aware of the "offending" person. SWA flight staff, in this case, apparently did not possess any capability, whatsoever, for intelligent porblem-solving. Truly unfortunate.

You go Southwest!!!
Her outfit is definitely not appropriate for a family airline. The crotch shot just proves that the skirt is too short! I'm sure that the other passengers were getting quite a show!!!

I will fly Southwest every time I can!

ok Mr. Lusk - ive read "a Different Perspective" - here's my reply. First off, unless you have a WRITTEN, PUBLICLY accessible dress code, its none of your damn business frankly. If a girl wants to dress slutty, thats her business. There were no safety issues.

To you Mr Lusk, and all the Today show hand wringers about her crotch-flash -once on the plane itd be damn near impossible for anyone to have seen her crotch - impossible for those sitting behind here and darn near impossible for those in front of her... so in effect your staff made a decision based upon possible views in the WAITING area? It seems you should've gotten her on the plane SOONER, not later.

So whats next? stopping 'overly' affectionate couples from kissing goodbye? banning someone for telling an 'overly' dirty joke overheard by others? The problem with morality, Mr. Lusk, is that its in the eye of the beholder at whatever point in time we're at.

Oh, and I've NEVER seen your vaunted humorous and upbeat staff keep Mr. "Joe Butt-crack" from getting on the plane - or Mr. "smells like a dead rat". That's far more offensive to me than a girl in a short skirt. And lecturing on dress? my god - osama doesnt need to convert us.....we ALREADY have our own Taliban and Revolutionary Guard here at home.

It would be nice to eliminate stupid people as well. But then, at least I dont profess to be able to know exactly who is stupid and who isnt.... Cause it ain't my job....Get it??

To paraphrase Jack Nicholson's Joker in Batman - " this country needs an enema!"

By the way Mr. Lusk, I certainly will be looking at Alaska Air for my 12-14 flights a year i've been averaging with Southwest. And if you like to have me over to critique your personal taste in furnishings, autos, clothing etc, I'd be happy to give you my opinion.

IT'S ABOUT TIME SOMEONE STOOD UP FOR THE SO VERY FEW OF US WHO STILL BELIEVE IN MODESTY!!! Let her sue- she just wants money.

Good GOD--GET A FREAKIN' GRIP, PEOPLE! A Supervisor (NOT a flight attendant) called a buxsom, but otherwise not terribly attractive, "Hooters Girl" (now there is resume material...) on the carpet for looking like a streetwalker and flashing her business to everyone that cared to look every time she sat down--just like she did on the Today show today. And for THAT some of you think Southwest should burn in the fires of hell???? WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE'????

Here's my theory: all of you that swear you'll "NEVER FLY SOUTHWEST AGAIN" probably weren't terribly loyal Southwest customers in the first place. And all of you so full of oddly vehement moral outrage are the same ones that have lost sight of the fact that there is a difference between a a free society with freedom and morals--and a society where lack of morals means you have the freedom to do ANYTHING, without regard to societal mores.

And to the one person that asked "would it have made a difference if she wore short shorts?"--YES, IT WOULD. Daisy Dukes at least have fabric covering the crotch--as did the storied hot-pants worn by the girls in Southwest's distant past. This girl's "skirt" (and I use the phrase loosely) didn't. Period.

GEEZ.....and good job, once again, Southwest Airlines.

The easy answer is to sue the hell out of Southwest. Additionally, I would name the individual employee in the suit.

Really I have never flown Southwest and believe me there are so many other carrier why bother. These people are crazy and for the company to back this employee who is clearly a moron, it shows you what you are dealing with at the corporate level.

The solutions have the 96 million people who fly this low class airline stop, trust me when this happens they will certainly remember to treat the customer with respect.

If it had been me the story would have been about how a passenger was arrested for kicking a flying waiterÃ

Southwest,
I appreciate your stance and emphatically implore you to not budge from your position and continued support for the individual employees involved and your capacity to see to the "needs and rights" of all the passengers on that flight.. I hope this incident causes people to look in the mirror and actually think about what is appropriate. Few entities in this morally bankrupt society have the moral compass or intrgrity to stand for anything. It may be costly for a little while but this too will pass. I hope that the ignorant and uncivilized proponents of litigation realize how many people will be affected. I also hope that they will come to realize that this young woman is or will be someone's daughter, sister, mother, wife, and grandmother. I am a very red blooded American man, but if it was my daughter, sister, mother, wife, grandmother, I certainly would not want her bareing her business for the world to see. Thank you for the opportunity to voice my support.
mark

I sold all of my LUV stock this morning. "LUV".....how ironic.

What crap!! I GUARANTEE that the reason you kicked her off the flight was because some BUSY BODY HOLIER THAN THOU CITIZEN complained!! Get it together Southwest Airlines! Do you really want to wait until Election Day, November 2008, to see the light!! I for one, will not be flying your airline until you fire the employee that took it upon himself or herself to tell the rest of us how we should dress! The last time I checked Southwest Airlines was not owned by Fox!

Look, Southwest Airlines... you royally screwed up on this one. In no way should you be in the business of deciding what is appropriate clothing for your paying customers. We pay and you fly the plane. If you can't get this basic sales relationship and you're place in it then we're going to have to penalize you by taking our business elsewhere.

If I had some Southwest Airlines stock I'm sure I'd have sold it today...

Southwest needs to watch its' own TV commercials from 1972, to get an idea of just how ridiculous their flight attendants behavior really is. Just look on You Tube under "Southwest Airlines Hostesses Hotpants Ad 1972". The flight attendants show way more thigh, and actually use it as a selling point to fly Southwest. I am disgusted by the judgments I have seen all over the web of this young lady's clothing and comparison to Paris Hilton. Most of these complaints are surely coming from old people, having convenient memory lapses of their own hot-pants wearing, miniskirt days of yesteryear in the 1970's.

There were a lot of different ways to handle this situation. On an airplane like Southwest's there's very little harm she's going to flash anyone and were that really the main concern simply asking her politely to cover her lap with a blanket would've been more appropriate that taking her off the plane and humiliating her.

I am another customer you've lost over this. The absolute lack of appropriate treatment on the part of your CSR and the juvenille way you're trying to vindicate your company makes me sincerely hope that the government stops propping airlines with poor customer service and you can go under like you should.

Now you are hosting a forum for people to further denegrate Ms. Ebbert!? Let the lawsuit commence. I will never, under any circumstances, set foot on your airline again.

I fly alot,,,,,,,,,,,,,,and I will NEVER fly southwest again................
Your idiot who gave that girl all that heartache over her clothes is A DOPE.
Gee whiz I can't believe that guy/gal who did this............FIRE HIM/HER

Yeah! I am thankful to all of you who will no longer be flying on Southwest. Thanks! Now I know I will be flying with only decent and respectable people.
And your joking if you think other airlines will let her on!! Some airlines won't let you on if your not in business attire. Get real! We all know there is a way to dress for each situation. Save this dress for your club attire. On the TV show this morning they even had to black it out when she sat down. HMMM wonder why? Guess it wasn't appropriate! I am thankful that someone is teaching her, since her mother didn't. (I have heard her mom dresses worse than her daughter does). Yes, it's obvious. Your doing this for the money, If you say you were embarrassed because people were looking at you, why did you wear that skirt? You can't tell me you don't think people were going to stare at you when you are showing your stuff! Southwest has a liberal dress code! This was pushing it, even for them!!!

Ok now its started.. How about removing the Loud, Overweight,People that get on a restricted area and apparently have never used Deodrant??? Some of the flight attendants on SW in the past had a terrible body odor and gave the impression (Its All about Them ) Wake up SW your no angel by any means. Take into consideration all the times you people block the aisles.
Wonder if Greyhound has a dress code>

I just hope I get picked for the jury when this young lady SUES Southwest, cause you can bet your sweet ass I will award her the MAXIMUM allowed by law.

SW needs to hire competent, thinking supervisors. Who would want to fly with management that has their prioities mixed with personal issues? No thanks!!

For all of you people applauding their choice; take a second to think really hard about this. You are allowing someone else to determine what is considered appropriate.

Scratch that, you probably are too narrow minded to get the problem with that idea since you want to push your own ideas of right on others anyway, so this would be right up your allies.

What it comes down to is that it really is none of your business what she's wearing. If you don't like it, don't look.

I thought the outfit was cheap and trashy. But that just means I wouldn't wear it myself. That opinion doesn't give me the right to JUDGE another person based on their personal taste.

I've cancelled my next two flights here and have rebooked elsewhere.

Why is it anyone's business how someone dresses. We all have parts people! Every person who is not absolutly disgusted by SouthWest should move to Iran where they would be right at home.

i am happy to hear southwest took the effort to have the passenger arange her clothing to be less revealing. it would have been very uncomfortable to be seated near her with my husband and 6 year old grandson. please keep it up. my daughter does the same thing. we taught her differant but it sometimes takes the comunity to help them learn.

Southwest, your treatment of Miss Kyla Ebbert leaves me disgusted. You need to apologize to Miss Ebbert, remunerate her for her stress and embarrassment, and apologize to your entire customer base and if you don't do it quick, I'm finding another airline to book with. Talk about offensive: that is exactly what you are. Used to be I thought you picked employees for being people persons; obviously things have changed! Now it's Witchhunt Airlines! If your passengers have to be careful about wearing clothes outside what one of your employees considers to be the norm, does this mean your customers also have to be careful what they say, how they sit, what they read? If I bring an FHM magazine on board, am I bait for being booted? Where do you draw the line? No shorts for men? Is there a line? Or is it up to the whim of each flight's crew?

I see nothing wrong with her outfit.

She has pretty legs; isn't that what most women want?
So what if we see her crotch?! Only the sexually impotent and starved will be upset and jealous about that!

Cheers to pretty legs !

In your customer Service Commitment you state.

Foremost we want you to know that it is never our wish to inconvenice our valued customer.

Have to say you failed with this situation SouthWest.

Boo Southwest!

1. If the Southwest employee that removed Ms Ebbert from the flight had cause, then why did he then allow her back on the plane. If he did not have cause, then he behaved poorly and Southwest owes Ms Ebbert an apology.

2. If Ms Ebbert was removed from the flight for a valid cause, Southwest needs to make it's dress code policy clear. While we are at it, I'd much rather be sitting next to someone wearing a short skirt and showing cleavage that fits in the seat, than one covered up that hangs over into mine. So please include fat people on the list of who you won't be allowing on planes.

3. Southwest should have responded to this on the Today show. I'm not sure if Ms Ebbert was in the right or not, but my first reaction was to blame Southwest. The outfit did not look out of place as shown on TV this morning, but how do I know how low the top was pulled down or how high the skirt was pulled up.

4. If this young woman was dressed improperly, shouldn't a gate agent have intercepted her before she ever got on the plane? I mean Southwest is all about being on time and removing someone from a plane can cost precious minutes.

5. I could keep going, but I wont. I'm disappointed that this story, if false, made it to national news. And I'm disappointed in Southwest, who I always feel has the happiest best employees in the industry.

USS BLOG BOY.....finally, a familiar face on this blog!! I read the SWA blog daily, and typically it's all in good fun. Where did all these people come from? Ironically, I interviewed for a CSA job with SWA earlier this week. I feel that this whole situation has been blown WAY out of proportion, especially seeing that it happened over two months ago and is only now gaining national attention. Now more than ever, I'm hoping to be offered a position with this company as it obviously supports its employees even in difficult times. If I'm not lucky enough to become an employee, I'll still continue to fly this airline as they are simply the best in the business.

Southwest, I believe you blew it and really ticked off a lot of your future passengers, (can you say revenue loss) . You need to ascertain the sexual preference of this particular flight attendant and see if this affected his judgement in this matter. If I see even one of your attendants with any cleavage showing or any of the guys with their crotches bulging I'm going to ask them to step off of my flight as I might find their dress offensive. Sounds pretty damn stupid doesn't it. You owe this young lady an apology and this particular attendant a quick reprimand or maybe just a quick exit from a company as forward thinking as yours APPEARED to be.....

THANK YOU SWA for taking a stand against inappropriate dress!! We are 20 year veterans of flying SWA....and LOVE IT!! We took 4 of our grandchildren (ages 8, 10 and 12) on a cross-country flight on SWA last month. I would not have wanted them to have been exposed to this kind of dress. The SWA crew were absolutely the best...which is usually the case with SWA, all our flights were on time, two were early and all our luggage arrived intact. The courtesy and "family airline" atmosphere is what brings us back to SWA time and again. We applaud you and urge you to keep your standards high.

I was very disappointed to see the story about how Kyla Ebbert was treated. Southwest is one of my favorite airlines and its a relaxed feel and quick efficient group.

The outfit that Kyla had on was really typical of a 20 something young woman and was decently covered.

The thing that really didn't impress me about the article is that her taste was questioned in front of other passengers embarrassing her and putting her on negative display.

I think that any time an airline has an issue with a passenger on a personal level that matter should be handled discreetly in the gate tube, away from the rest of the passengers or in a stewards area.

Its not appropriate to call unwanted attention to someone. Thats completely unprofessional.

- Susan Manley

What's next? If a custumer is offened by a gay person will SW ask them to leave? What about a minority? My husband is much older than I; I am afraid to fly SW because I know people have a problem with us and I wouldn't want to get thrown off the plane. I typically complain about the tort system, but I hope she sues SW into bankruptcy. Those who think others should dress, think and live like they do represent the worst of society.

Thank you for taking a stand in a day in age where moral standards have been thrown out the window. I commend Southwest Airlines for their stance on modesty.

Yea, Southwest! :) She is dressed inappropriately. Perhaps next time, she'll (hopefully) dress in more appropriate clothes. Maybe she's learned her lesson.

I LUV SWA! :)

After hearing the story of Southwest Airlines gross mismanagement of this whole situation and especially of the airline's highly arbitrary rules for paying customers, I have decided to never fly Southwest again.
As CEO of my company, I am also discontinuing the company account for any and all employees, informing all of my friends and relatives about this incident, and recommending that they choose an airline that will take care of ALL of its customers.
Southwest Airlines conduct during this whole matter has been disturbing, and their lack of humility and conciliatory attitude towards its customer is not acceptable in a customer service oriented industry.
I encourage anyone similarly disgusted by this airline's actions to "vote with your feet", since there are many airlines that would be happy to accomodate you and treat customers in the proper fashion.

Come on people! Open your eyes and take another GOOD look.
This girl has on a skirt that is pulled down so low that the TOP of the skirt is probably 5 inches down below her belly button. Even at that, it looks like her ass will be sticking out should she bend over in any way. Even with her skirt pulled down as low as it can be, she still was unable to keep from flashing the national audience. (Yes, did you miss that? She FLASHED you!) Now remember... THIS is most probably the position of the skirt after she was confronted by the Southwest employee. She said "I pulled her skirt down as far as I possibly could." (That skirt can't be pulled down any lower or it will fall off her!) AND, she was then allowed to fly!
Southwest, I TOTALLY support you. If someone dresses like a streetwalker, it IS inappropriate. Southwest should reserve the right to refuse service to anyone. And, they SHOULD have refused to serve the streetwalker and expose their customers to such.
I applaud Southwest Airlines and the customer service rep. that had the guts to stand up and say this girl was inappropriate.

I remember when I was in school (we didn't do this in college, but we did in Jr. high & HS), students had to do the "dollar bill" test; we had to get on our knees when wearing shorts & skirts & hold a dollar bill up to see if they were an appropriate length.

USS Blog Boy, I agree with you! :)

I can't believe I read all of the comments so far but I did and the gent and his comments below are by far the most intelligent post of the many on here: I fully agree with everything he said, especially #5 on his list.

I am so disappointed in Southwest, and Southwest's management, over this issue which has turned into a well publicized fiasco worldwide. Doesn't Southwest have enough other normal operational problems going on, like finding ways to increase their revenue and getting their flights out on time, than to allow some of their boneheaded employees to screw with the customers that they do have?

If other Southwest employees think that their "Keith" was right in this situation then they can fully expect us paying customers, if we ever fly Southwest again (I won't unless they are by far the cheapest on the route), to treat them like crap like Southwest treated this customer. My always courteous, cooperative and polite behavior towards them, despite some attitudes by some of them, in the past is now extinct.

Hugh J.
PO'd FLL and PBI customer

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Best post on here so far:

Notice that 99% of posters here that actually support SWAÃ

Southwest, you have lost 20 years of the flying public's goodwill: the incident itself lost you 10 years.

And you'd better get the damage control team busy putting a muzzle on Brian Lusk: he lost another 10 years by self-righteously pointing out the problem of a lady in a short skirt sitting down in front of a TV camera. Unless I'm mistaken, there aren't cameras in front of airplane seats...except perhaps on Air Islam.

Since when does a male flight attendant run the airplane? Where was the captain or the station manager? Doesn't anybody in San Diego know how to pick up the telephone and ask for guidance?

What's *not* politically correct is a Southwest employee imposing one individual's opinion on your customers.

Ms. Licuanan's observation that "the way you dress reflects your personality" is one step away from the "She was asking for it 'cause she looked sexy" rape defense. "Old school" is your black next-door deighbor kids forced to attend another school in the crummy part of town. And I'm not going to kill any electrons by explaining to Ms. Licuanan that "character" and "personality" are unrelated concepts.

If Ms. Ebbert's attire didn't interfere with flight crew operations (it didn't) and if a sworn officer didn't consider it "illegal" (none did), Southwest has a lot of explaining to do. It's likely you'll be sued for a violation of her civil rights.

Personally, I think Southwest's drink coupons are a considerably bigger morality issue than a short skirt. There are drunk pilots and drunk flight attendants ("for your safety"). Booze has damaged more families than short skirts.

When did a short skirt cause a safety problem? Were passengers jostling for a seat next to her?

The Southwest culture of hugging and kissing could be construed to be...OH NO! SEX ON A PLANE! Oops-sorry, you can't do that either. Sigh.

The airline industry provides awful customer service (Southwest may be near the top of the heap but it's a stinky heap). I applaud throwing a drunk off the plane but when FA's bounce somebody for copping an attitude...well, it's stuff like this, and being held hostage on a ramp-bound plane for 8 hours, that makes me an ex-business traveller. I get just as much done, and my business saves money, by using video conferencing.

Do you notice that I'm not complaining about anything but service? The TSA is a joke and we don't have any control over the price of jet fuel, but it's pointless to complain.

Anywhere I need to go, I can use Delta, Alaska, Hawaiian, or Southwest. I look forward to a full and complete apology from Colleen to Ms. Ebbert, an unsolicited (confidential) settlement offer, and a published policy on the authority of flight attendants on matters other than those related to the safety of the aircraft, passengers, and crew.

We expect better, Southwest.

This is an isolated and BIZARRE incident. I think it reflects on the flight attendant making a stupid move. However it does not reflect on Southwest the airline in general. I think 99.9% of the flight attendants would not have done this. Southwest in my opinion is still the leader of America's airlines and I will continue flying them for all the great things they offer.

You have got to be kidding. So the airline who serves peanuts and pretzels by overweight unattractive fllight attendants who cannot seem to smile or even laugh have decided what we can wear in flight. Have you taken a look at the so called out of style uniforms that the flight attendants are wearing? Obviously not. America has become a communistic country with a bunch of out of their mind Christians. It is not our attire that makes us who we are, it is the way we treat others, and obviously embarrassing a young woman is all right, but wearing a miniskirt is not. Who are you kidding. Here is the plan--if anyone wants to join me please email: the next flight you take everyone and I mean everyone should wear a similiar outfit when boarding!!! I think then they will get the message.....whose with me?

Sorry SWA, you blew it big time in allowing this moron to remain employed. She was dressed like the majority of young attractive college kids. You could see nothing untoward. I and my employees have flown SWA for years on both business and pleasure. No more. You've lost my business. And guess what? I dress in a suit and carry a briefcase.

Thank you, Southwest, for taking a stand. I am a single, attractive 20-something. I'm glad that you asked the young lady to pull down her skirt, and you definitely preserved her dignity by conducting the conversation AWAY from the other passengers.

FYI - I'm not part of a religious movement. I consider myself atheist. When I was in my early 20's I would have worn the skirt in question... understanding that I wouldn't sit while wearing it. Thank you for not forcing me to unknowingly sit in her nasties on a future flight. She was - and IS - seriously out of line with the publicity. Think she's trying to be picked up by a modeling agency? Absolutely absurd. If I want to see that, I'll check the mirror when I exit the shower.

I was surprised yet appreciative Southwest rebuked this young woman for the way she was dressed. After all, are there not laws about indecent exposure? By the way she was dressed I would assume she was for hire and as of now I know that is against the law!! Thanks Southwest!! I only pray other public places will follow your leadership!!!!

WOW! I don't know why the place of employment for this young woman in being thrown around so much. What did that have to do with the incident? If Southwest wants to have a dresscode policy, fine, whatever, but is should be stated for people to look at in advance. I know a lot of people are saying shame on her for wearing in the first place, she just wanted attention, etc. There was ample time while she checked in, went through security, then sat in the terminal for an employee to approach her and suggest she may need to change or wrap in a blanket ahead of time. No one did. That suggests that this was not a policy of Southwests, or that it is arbitrarily decided. If she was checking in with that outfit on and they let her through security, she should be allowed through. By the time the plane was boarding, how long, exactly, had she been in view of SW employees? Personally, I feel they have no standing to dictate what people wear, as long as they're covered by the legal definition. That aside, they handled this poorly. For all you people who are saying she deserved to be shamed and humiliated for wearing such an outfit in the first place - is that what your Christian spirit is supposed to enforce? What about turning the other cheek - literally - look away from it if you're offended and just know that you would not dress like that yourself or allow your children to do so either. Shame on you, SW, for creating such an embarassing situation for both yourself and this girl!

It is appalling to our freedom that Southwest has chosen to become the moral police of the skies. If this woman could walk through the airport terminal and everywhere else dressed like that, there is absolutely no reason to complain about it on the plane.

And to those people who mention "flashing", there is NO WAY anyone can flash anyone in airplane seats. The only thing in front of her is the back of the next row's seats.

When did Southwest Airlines become the morals police? Is Southwest putting a stake in the ground that questionable dress, general behavior and the like will not be tolerated by this "good two shoes" airline? What was the real reason for asking Kyla Ebbert to modify her attire? Was some old biddy of a flight attendant jealous? Did the pilots of the aircraft find her so attractive that they could not keep their proffessional wits about themselves, thus endangering the flying public? If Kyla Ebbert did not break the law in the way she was dressed Southwest had absolutely no right to do what they did. Southwest owes the woman, her family and the fliying public an apology. If Southwest management believes the action to refuse service was a correct one, then they better inject a morals clause, dress code and any other qualification to their tickets. Maybe the wording of such a clause could include "Management reserves the right to refuse service to any individual, at the sole discretion of any Southwest Airlines employee, improperly dressed, acting in an improper manner or are just plain not liked by airline personnel. There is no requirement that an individual would be conducting himself in a manner that would be unsafe to airline personnel and/or the travelling public only that an airline employee made a "complaint". Airline employee discretion is the sole determinng factor. If, in the opinion of airline personnel you have violated this clause, you will be refused service and all monies forfeited. Also, the refusal of Southwest Airlines to provide service does not require an individual to have broken any laws." If Southwest was "embarrassed" by this young woman, they should have bitten the bullet and arranged for her to fly on an airline that would have embraced her business. Instead Southwest has not only ,made this a capital case when it was not even a midemeanor, but they have made a fool of themselves. Hopefully the negative press you will receive teaches you a lesson. .

I want to see Southwest pull off smelly people, people with disgusting feet that take their shoes off, women with disgusting perfume, fat people who disturb the person next to them, tall people who lean back too far...get the picture....

It is unbelievable that you would have the audacity to take a young woman off the plane because some fool objected....if an employee made the decision, he or she should be fired on the spot. Southwest should apologize immediately..i hope the woman sues..she will win big.....

The correct course of action if a flyer complained was do not look or get off and find another plane.....

Incredibly stupid....I hope your pilots are smarter...

I can hardly believe an airline that prides itself on customer service treated this lovely young women so badly. NOt only do passengers have to deal with security, invasion of privacy searches now the airline is the nazi dress code police. Shame on you.
Why don't you spend your time hiring appropriate personnel and leave out the personal judgements.
I'll definately pass by Southwest when booking a flight. Neither United nor Delta has ever been so personal.

Customer comes first, customer service, these are becoming lost in todays world.

I'm a Rapid Rewards member and like flying Southwest. However, my opinion of your airline is considerably less after this incident.. I hope she sues you for thousands and gets it! Because, up to what I know now, you have not issued an apology. You were wrong. Admit it. And I loved the way the media pointed out your hypocrisy by showing your old Southwest ads with the mini-skirted attendents. At least offer her free trips for life.

As to your prudish employee that humiliated her, I hope that he or she was disciplined. An appropriate punishment cover him or herself in a sackloth while on the job, in case any of the overly sensitive passengers are offended by the race, dress, hairstyle, perfume, jewelry, etc.. Idiots!

Maybe Southwest would like to require their customers to wear uniforms. Then nobody would have to guess how one of your employees is going to react. I, for one, have tired of the heavy handed tactics by the airlines. I already refuse to fly one airline for having left me and others out on the tarmac in the hot sun for several hours, now I will refuse to fly your airline, until you have the decency to apologize. I don't want anybody fired, just an apology to this individual and some counseling for the flight attendants.

I think the Southwest attendant did the right thing in letting Miss Ebert know she was dressed inappropriately. Too many people and businesses today would rather look the other way instead of standing up for what's right and decent. She showed how ignorant she was by taking this public and then proving the skirt was too short as she sat down for the rest of her interview. Cudos to Southwest! That attendant deserves a commendation.

You guys blew it bigtime on this one! If you had any sense of damage control you would apologize to her and fire Keith. As it is I hope she sues you and collects bigtime. I know if I were on the jury, a number with six or more zeros would be appropriate. Maybe then you would get the message.

SWA is rediculous. What probably happened was the guy who asked her to leave tried to hit on her and she didn't respond so he got pissed and tried to embarass her. And SWA backs him up?? You got to be kidding me. Let me see, I can get drunk on the plane and annoy the person next to me the whole flight but this innocent college student who didn't cause one bit of commotion almost gets kicked off?? Back asswards.

Southwest, you lost my business!! As well as a lot of my younger friends who are all now afraid that you'll try to kick us off because maybe the guys shorts are a little too short and you don't accept tank tops or the girls are wearing skirts with sweaters.

No more SWA!!

I made a huge mistake and said that if Southwest Airlines, aka Witchhunt Airlines, doesn't apologize quick, I'm finding another carrier. Well, Miss Ebbert's flight was back in July! And the result of a review by a Southwest corporate office: a reply to Miss Ebbert's mother insinuating that her daughter's dress was *lewd* (Southwest: to paraphrase Senator Lloyd Bentsen, I know lewd; lewd was my friend; Miss Ebbert's dress was no lewd dress). As of now Southwest will be my LAST airline of choice. But there's a silver lining to every cloud. The straitlaced, the stodgy, and the simple can have Southwest; you know where the bubbly, bonny, and bright will be: anywhere else!

One more example showing the decline of Southwest.

Thank you, Southwest, for standing up for decency. Ms. Ebert dresses the way she does to attract attention. Just because the attention she got this time was "negative," too bad. (Even her mother has been quoted to say her daughter sresses "provocatively") . Well, she provoked someone, all right!
I'm certain she flashed her privates to everyone when she sat down. That skirt is way too short. Thank you for sticking up for modesty and family values.
She may have been "humiliated," but seriously, does she consider the humiliation she causes in others who have get eyefuls of her personal "assets?"

Who the hell do these people think they are!!!! SW Airlines used to be one of my most admired companies. The way they continued to make money after the 911 attach was very impressive. However, after this BS they can count me only as a former customer.

This is a no win for SWA, but watching the video and seeing Kyla cross her legs and her underwear or some tights showing is a little revealing. Kinda stimulating, but appropriate, I not so sure. I feel sorry for SWA, but I think they were addressing a customer complaint, a justifiable one.

Just purchased a ticket for a business trip to Houston...... on Continental. Hope this issue is worth what it is going to cost you.

Keep up the good work against a rouge passengers threatening you employees with clothing. Oh, the horror!

Well, thanks for adding to my list of airlines I refuse to fly. I admit the longer the Bush administration is in office I am less and less able to stomach watching or reading the news, so I may have missed Congress finally repealing what is left of the Bill of Rights. But the last time I checked, the young woman in question was fully within her rights to wear the clothing she did, regardless of whether many of us consider it in poor taste (as I do). If Southwest Airlines is going to support its employees forcing their own personal morals on their customers in an arbitrary manner, then I will not be one of those customers, since there is no telling what some random Southwest employee may choose to lecture me about on my next flight. If Southwest wants to be the airline of the religious right, then they should at least publish and uniformly enforce their policies so those of us who do not wish to be subjected to them can avoid them.

For those of you who support Southwest's behavior in this matter, watch your back because tomorrow someone may be infringing upon your rights in the name of "common decency".

Please Please Please... Do you really want to go down this road... I have endured so much on Southwest Airlines with Passengers who smelled like they just crawled out of a spetic tank or bottle of Whiskey. From the Overweight Travelers to Sick Kids. If Southwest insists on taking a Moral stand...how about taking a stand on personal hygiene and Weight first. Have your customers step on a scale, pass a sobriety test, and take a shower before stepping on the plane. Let's promote Health, Civility, and Hygiene...Wow

Not only would I pay more for my ticket... I'd be your best customer.

There are many comments left on this page putting Southwest down, however, I would just like to point out the fact that it doesn't mean anything. Anyone who has studied customer service and such knows that negative feedback is easier to obtain than is positive because left than 5% of those who feel positive ever really leave the feedback. Especially on blogs! I just wanted to make that clear.

BRAVO Southwest! Her skirt was too short. If when you stand up you have to PULL your skirt down then it probably is a good sign that it is too short. Watching her on the show, I thought I saw too much when she sat down. Her butt looked like it was going to fall out at any moment. A women might smooth out a skirt when she stands up but if she literally has to yank on the bottom of the skirt to make it come down...well dear I think it is too short. As a mother I wouldn't want my child to see that, nor would I want to sit through a flight as everyone stared at her. I do believe though that if a company is going to tell customers what they can and can't wear then you must be consistent, they must be equal to men and women, and they better have some type of guidelines written. If not then that company may have problems justifying a situation such as what happened with this "girl".

After hearing this I would go out of my way to not fly on Southwest Airlines unless the company would publicly apologize for the inappropriate action of the supervisor and state that the supervisor in question was terminated.

I watched the Today show interview. Hooray for Southwest! Thank you for standing up for the rest of the passengers on that flight. Stop flying with Southwest? Not me! I applaud the way you operate your airlines. This young lady and her mother can try to find another airlines out there that will cater to their behavior. I just flew Southwest from San Diego this month and I would have cheered for the CSR if that had happened on my flight. Don't the folks that own the airlines get to call the shots? It was obvious that the family was looking for dollars and they hoped crying on the TV would help their case.

Bravo to "Keith" for stepping into a difficult situation.
He attempted to handle this in a discrete manner, it seems.
Somebody has to take a stand against this kind of gee... tempting, teasing, provoking... none of the words are really appropriate because they are all charged with the "she was asking for it" accusation. I don't think she was asking for anything, that's the trouble. She was just wanting to look "sexy". By all means girls, ya gotta look "sexy". All the time. After all, if you don't look "sexy" then you just might be oppressed. Then the next thing you know somebody will want you to wear a burka.
Bravo to Keith or whoever he was, and I applaud you.

The decision by SWA on this matter was absolutely ridiculous. The woman was wearing perfectly acceptable clothing, ESPECIALLY for a destination in AZ. Your own representative said that a bikini top was acceptable. I am not sure why she was singled out, if it was a passenger complaint or a problem by the male representative, but it was totally out of line. Since there was nothing wrong with her attire, I could only assume that you were discriminating against her because she was an attractive woman. In that case, I will not be booking future flights on SWA.

For all of the 300+ comments that are posted .... do you think that you have the right to judge either SWA or the girl. NONE OF YOU WERE THERE! .

So, NONE OF YOU have the right to say a thing good or about about SWA or the girl. You dont know if the way she was dressed today was the same way she was dressed on her flight. You dont know how the issue even came up.
Unless you were a passanger or a crew memeber on that flight that day, the only thing you know is what the media has said.

I've been a loyal Southwest customer for a lot of years. There's absolutely nothing wrong with the way that girl's dressed. Furthermore, as someone who's flown on your flights into Vegas plenty of times, I routinely see women dressed far less modestly than her. No one seems to object to them (nor, for that matter, do I) but if this girl's skirt was a problem plenty of the ones I've seen should have provoked a crisis. Your people were wrong on this, and you're compounding the PR problem by not apologizing and pledging to handle such situations differently in the future. Frankly, I'm disappointed because I normally think quite highly of your company. Hopefully you'll see your error soon and acknowledge it.

Followup:

Today was the first time I ever wanted to file a complaint against SWA. A company that pushes customers to ticket online and do everything electronically, does not even have an email address to file a complaint!!!! WOW, that is GREAT customer service!! NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What a huge disappointment. You lost a family of PHX travelers today.

I find it funny that Southwest is trying to take some moral high ground when they aren't even capable of treating people, and PAYING CUSTOMERS, decently.

The woman's clothing was none of Southwest's business. It was an arbitrary decision. I've had to endure some really annoying people sitting next to me on flights, but I never thought I was so important that I could get them kicked off of their flight. Other passengers paid to be on the flight just like I did.

I don't have to like them or approve of their clothing. I don't have to like their screaming children, but I would never demand that they get kicked off of a flight because they irritate my sensibilities.

I can't believe Southwest has not issued an apology.

If she sues, she will win, and she should.

I read about 20 replies and gave up. If this is posted above, I apologize for repeating someone else's comments. As an employee, I see plenty of people come and go on a daily basis, and quite often I see a few outfits that make me do a double-take. I don't say anything, but I am constantly amazed at what people consider decent to go out in public wearing. As far as Ms. Ebbert goes, she has brought herself into this mess, and is probably enjoying the publicity. I'm quite sure that other passengers have been spoken to about their attire (or lack of) and have never made this big of a deal. The days of modesty are far gone.

For all of the people who are saying that they will never fly this airline again, think about it, really. If Ms. Ebbert hadn't have brought this issue to the media, you'd still be LUVing us. Don't let a silly little thing as a too-short miniskirt turn you away. SWA has already apologized to her, done deal. She's going to be milking this as long as she can.

Her outfit is the standard style for the times. Why is now an employee making policy decisions on the fly, based on his/her moral beliefs, in the absence of a dress code? A dress code that restricts attire beyond the acceptable social level?

Southwest has not apologized to her, or its customers, which makes me believe that this type of employee behavior is acceptable to Management. It is shocking that a Company like Southwest would allow its employees' moral choices affect how its customers are treated.

Mr. Lusk,

Seriously, you're making excuses here to justify your employee's actions? The lawyer on the Today show nailed it - in the absence of a published dress code, general decency rules apply. Was the girl's outfit provocative? Certainly (this, coming from a guy in his 20s). As a frequent flyer (although never on SW, fortunately - I like my 36" pitch in E+ on UA), I've seen outfits like this more than a few times.

I have a general issue with flight attendants who think that their word is law - I've seen power-tripping FAs on UA and AA, but this is certainly one of the more ridiculous ones. Your flight attendants have NO PLACE imposing their personal morality on passengers, unless you have plans to modify your Contract of Carriage. You've blown your chance to get an apology, and now you'll at the least probably have to fork over some $$$ for a settlement. Hopefully you'll dock it from this Keith's paycheck.

I KNOW I will never use your airline again. I hope you have to pay $100,000,000 in damages to her. Your actions were not proper. I can not believe this happened in the USA. Sad conduct on the airline part.

SHAME ON SOUTHWEST for humiliating this young woman in front of an entire airplane full of other people! This is completely absurd!! I could go on and on, yet as I have better things to do- will settle that: Southwest is grossly wrong in their actions taken against this passenger and this event makes me SICK. SHAME ON SOUTHWEST.

Here's the thing, opinions are opinions and everyone has them. As and airline however you have NO RIGHT to tell your customers how to dress or to take them off of a plane and lecture them or publicly humiliate them.
I don't think that I can ever fly with this airline again.
Even if someone else had a problem with what the girl was wearing it was their choice to tell her, not a representative of the airline who should have stayed neutral. They were both paying customers. It doesn't matter if she showed up in a bikini and heels, she has the right to dress however she chooses. If you don't like it then you don't have to look. And you ALWAYS remember that while it may not be the choice that you would make, you certainly enjoy having the right to choose.
At this point I would rather pay a higher price to avoid flying with an airline who has no respect for women, for their customers, or for themselves.
I hope that this costs SWA a ton of money. I hope that they do the right thing and apologize. But in the mean time I will be encouraging my friends, my family, my business associates and everyone else in my life to take a stand and fly with an airline who knows that respecting their customers comes first.
I can't believe how disapointed I am with SWA.

I flew Southwest just last weekend for a business trip, and let me assure you that I will not be using your airline again, for personal and business use. I will also be sure to send this story to all my friends and discourage them from flying as well. You have embarrassed that poor girl and you have embarrassed yourselves, and I hope that your business suffers.

As a stock holder in southwest I am displeased that the company has taken it upon itself to start dictating what is or is not ok to wear. She already has parents and don't need any more. The young lady was not indecent, her clothing was keeping with current trends for that age group. Her clothes were not illegal. She paid her ticket price like any other air traveler which should be all Southwest needed to concern itself with.
If things continue as they are Southwest will be one stock holder less!!

Are you crazy?? I can only hope she sues the pants off of SWA as I have no doubt she will win.

What your flight attendant did was wrong and should not be tolerated. sw should be ashamed. Any child allowed to watch tv would see alot more than that.

The young lady is an adult, and people see more then that on the beach. I think that this was uncalled for. You have the right to think and feel what you beleive, but not punish others for thinking differently. What's next telling people they can fly because they are Christian.

Good one southwest! You just lost about half of your business. I hope the girl you kicked off the plane sues the crap out of you!

KUDOS, KUDOS, KUDOS to Southwest Airlines for thinking about every other paying customer on that flight. I saw the outfit the gal was wearing on the Today Show, and it was clearly revealing way too much. As a society, we really need to think about the message we're sending our kids - is modesty really that bad? Every wife, parent, and child thanks you for taking a stand. I am proud to fly on Southwest Airlines.

HEY!!! Here's an idea.......

Fellas,

Just show up wearing a sock. Just one. Where you place it is up to you. I mean, it does cover everything right? Since everyone is bashing Southwest for being the "fashion police, that should conform to your standards, right? You can wear that on the street and not get stopped right? Please, correct me if I'm wrong.

Ladies,

A thong and pasties would be appropriate attire. After all, you ARE covered. Heaven forbid that someone should infringe on your right to express yourself. You'd want your teenage son to look at that and have your daughter dress like that as well, right?

See how ridiculous that sounds when you put it that way?

Jedi Blog Master

I'm old enough to be her grandmother so don't dress like she does, wouldn't even if I was 20 pounds slimmer as I'm not "advertising." That said, it's not the airline's business how she attires herself as long as it is within the law. This used to be a free country.

What next? You can't fly with dyed hair? A coat? A nose ring? Elbows showing? Get a grip, SWA. Flight Attendants' primary job is the safety of passengers, not fashion police.

Hope you get your asses sued off. This was totally out of line. I can guarantee that your airlines has been put on my no fly list.

Your position that you can decide what YOU think is appropriate come right out of
southern businesses book before civil rights.Of course their decision was based on skin color.I hope she sues and wins big.I have flown SWA to Chicago but there are many ,many others to choose. I agree who the heck do you think you are?

Guess there will be no mile high club on SWA?
GO UNITED!!!!!!!!

I have always made Southwest airlines my first choice in travel but this issue with this young lady was just down right wrong. We have young men and women fighting the Taliban and their moral police as we speak. What is next, will all of the female passengers have to wear burquas to fly southwest? I have always respected Southwest but I sure have second thoughts now. I think the flight attendent in question should be reassigned to the baggage handling chores then this person(i use the term lightly) won't have to be offended by people dressed as this young lady. She was quite attractive in the attire that she was wearing and Southwest had no right to confront her. I would guess that most of the people here that are against her dress would not even fit into her clothes and are just envious of her. I hope the young lady sues Southwest and wins big because Southwest Airlines has shown how small it is.

After this dress code thing, I will no longer continue to be a repeat customer on any southwest flight again, since someone may decide to discriminate against me and have me change. Unbelievable....is all I can say. I am going to take my business to American Airlines or United and pay more but not have to worry if I may be booted off a flight for how I am dressed. Now who even complained about it anyway...Was it a passenger or maybe some frumpy jealous flight attendant. Other airlines should benefit from this idiot who complained. I know that I WILL GO ELSEWHERE WITH MY BUSINESS.

I applaud your actions!! It's about time someone stood up to say "no!" to the filth. Thanks for your courage and your honesty--it's about time a company took a stand on a higher moral ground. Let the whore sue--she showed her panties to the nation on the Today show. What kind of nastiness does it take to do something like that?

After this dress code thing, I will no longer continue to be a repeat customer on any southwest flight again, since someone may decide to discriminate against me and have me change. Unbelievable....is all I can say. I am going to take my business to American Airlines or United and pay more but not have to worry if I may be booted off a flight for how I am dressed. Now who even complained about it anyway...Was it a passenger or maybe some frumpy jealous flight attendant. Other airlines should benefit from this idiot who complained. I know that I WILL GO ELSEWHERE WITH MY BUSINESS. Thanks.

Dana

I saw the young woman's outfit and it was no more revealing than what would be seen in any shopping mall across the US. Southwest Airlines needs to print their dress code so people know what to wear. I did't realize that you had fashion police on your flights. I hope the man who took it upon himself to humiliate this young woman is no longer employed by your agency.

To whom it may concern,

Unbelievable. This is what comes to mind when I heard this story and read all sides. The correct thing to do is to immediately fire the employee and compensate the customer. Since there is no stated policy of what is considered proper dress and behavior, anyone can be treated disrespecfully by some bonehead employee who obviously had a bad day.

You can actually handle issues like this in a respectful, correct fashion. I don't need any clown who is having a bad day all of the sudden arbitrarily makes a decency and morality decision, based upon scant evidence and no official policy humiliating me or my family.

I find it inconceivable that Southwest continues to defend this indefensible behavior. Stop being ridiculous and do what is right. Fire the employee immediately and make it right with the passenger.

Oh one more thing as for the genius that said i hope she wins 100,000,000. Lets all hope she does seeing how her feelings, 5min of inconvenience, and 15 min of fame are worth more than a dead boy's life. The ramifications that would follow her win...all ticket, I MEAN ALL ticket prices on every carrier would increase significantly.

I personally want to THANK Southwest Airlines for upholding to a family friendly flight environment. I saw what Kyla Ebbert was wearing and have to say it looked very slutty. Yes, it was better than Brittany and a few other celebs but maybe we need to rethink what is appropriate and not let them guide the rules for us.
I also took a look at the Fox4news poll...and I stand with the 62% out of 1476 votes carrying the stance that she didn't need to choose such attire for the public.
I am proud to support Southwest Airlines now and will continue in the future. I believe the airline to be a wonderful way to travel. A family member of mine worked for Southwest for a number of years and loved the service and atmosphere. She appreciated also how Southwest treated their employees.

WAY TO GO SOUTHWEST AIRLINES!

There is hope on the horizon! Schools are passing dress codes so baggie pants cannot be worn (I have yet to see a pretty butt crack) and now Southwest Airlines is standing up and making passengers dress decently. Thank you.
When I saw Ms. Ebert on TV, in the process of sitting down, you could see her white underware. I guess we should be grateful she was wearing underware. I wonder how many people, who were offended by what SW did, would be offended by someone 300 pounds dressing that way. Or, how about a 80 year-old man wondering around the airport in a kilt with no underware.
It is truly shameful we have to resort to writing decency rules.

Really, what a waste of time and resources! I used to have a very favorable opinion of SWA, but no longer. They used to be the airline with a sense of humor?? WTF? Ever watch "AIrline"? They routinely deny boarding to persons they "in their opinion" appear to have had too much alcohol. Maybe that's a good thing, but before I fly, I'm nervous, and have a few drinks. That doesn't make me unruly, it makes me able to get on the plane...but there are those who get out of hand with too much booze.
However, this girl wasn't drunk, and her outfit isn't anything we don't see on a daily basis!
Get over yourselves, and concentrate on real threats like Islamic terrorists and checking the cargo that could blow up the plane!!

ya know. Its Southwest's airline.. they can do what they want, as long as they dont break any laws or endanger customers or employees. Seems like we all forget about that. Somehow, individuals can do what ever they want and then when someone else in a position of power calls them on it, they get their feelings hurt and then file a lawsuit.
its pathetic. remember when america was great? no wonder we are going down the tubes.
I luv southwest and I respect their right to to do wht they did.
suck it up people. no harm done. Do you actually think this woman is scarred or damged from this??? She's a Hooters waitress for crying out loud!
lemme get my next "A" boarding pass and sit in the exit row!!!!

Great Job Southwest! I cannot tell you how pleased I am with your decision to ask the young exhibitionist to cover up a little. It is so sad that the poor SW employee was put in the position to have to say something. Not all of the public is out to get a peep show when we hop on a flight, if we were all did Hooters airline would have faired better.
Thank again for stepping up, I hope this causes you to put it in writing for those whom actually have no decency, or a parent to teach them some, it might help to have some guidelines.

I would like to first of all thank you for standing up for a family "safe place" It is something you can't expect from many places now.
I do believe though that it shouldn't be up to each employees own discretion, but rather if you are going to restrict certain clothes, you should make a 'dress code' to be followed at all times, not just random cases.
Thanks again for what you have done! I believe it was the right thing.

HELLO People she was not kicked off, bumped off, escorted off the flight she was asked to cover up a little! SHE is the one that asked for the blanket, her choice.
If she was so embarrassed by the few people whom figured out what was going on why is she on EVERY news program???? Because SW called them? I think not!! It's because she wants SWA to buy her a new wardrobe, that's why! (I hope they get her a longer skirt.)
She is just desperate for attention and wants her 15 minutes of fame, next week she will be clubbing with Paris!

Issues come down to this...
- I applaud Southwest for being a company standing for common decency. The TV coverage as noted above, confirms that this woman was not properly dressed for public (maybe her job at Hooters, but not public)
- The comments saying there is nothing wrong with her attire, shows how far this culture has slipped into the gutter. Guys, reserve your eyes for your wife, not a woman who knows how to get attention. Ladies, supporting this just gets women more disrespect.
- Show me a business that will allow you to do what ever you wish, and I will show you a business that is located in the 'red-light' district (even those have laws they have to abide by)
- We need more places that respect common decency. Heck, one can't even take your children to Disneyland any more without some alternative lifestyle being stuffed down your throats.
- Most people that think this attire is proper are getting a steady dose of TV/Media that has just decensitized you all.

Again, THANK YOU Southwest, for being a company that I can do business with while with my family! I have been and will continue to be a loyal customer.

Dear Southwest,

My comments are addressed specifically to you. No one else.

Please remember that for every "customer" that claims they will "never fly you again" there will be one that will begin to fly with you because you had the decency and courage to do what every corporate culture needs--enforce a standard. You did the right thing and you can expect almost no one on these types of blogs to support you. But that's OK. You don't work to please them. You work to please your shareholders.

And your shareholders are very, very pleased with you tonight. Please take my word for it.

We appreciate the fact that you are not vehemently defending yourself publicly for that would be unnecessarily silly. A defense of decency and standards is not needed among decent people.

Congratulations for taking a step to protect my children...and my airline.

This is the second comment I've posted on this topic as you didn't post my first comment. One thing that I've noticed while scrolling through the many messages posted by justifiably outraged Americans who place great value on the freedom that we're given to dress as we please, is that you are moderating this blog IN YOUR FAVOR!!! Not fair!! Halfway through the blog, the number of messages that had been running consistently against Southwest's regulating of morality, all of a sudden dropped off and more and more messages started appearing that supported your policy. It was as if Karl Rove made a phone call to your C.E.O.! Is it true? If you want to stay in business, let the people speak and then issue a sincere apology!

Kim Wells

According to Google's cached data, this lady's MySpace page listed Hugh Heffner (sic) at the front of the list of people she'd like to meet !!!!!

Milking this event for all the publicity possible would almost certainly improve her chances of realizing that dream and more. Therefore one would be wise to reserve judgment rather than treat her account of events as gospel without hearing what the front-line employees have to say.

Southwest, it's time to tell us what your front-line employees know. This lady has IMHO waived any reasonable claim to privacy to the extent that her story incorrectly maligns Southwest.

I'm just a customer, but IMHO failing to defend your front-line employees robustly in the court of public opinion is a disservice to ALL of your fine employees. You claim to put employees first. Now is the time to show that you mean it.

To the one who thinks a person should be able to wear anything they feel comfortable in as a matter of freedom of expression...

If I feel comfortable wearing a thong and a barely there swimsuit top onto an airplane, would that not be indecent? There is a line that ought not to be crossed. Apparently to some on this blog, it's anything goes. Those who are so quick to point out their disdain for Christians and families who care if their sons and daughters are morally assaulted by scantily clad women (everywhere, certainly not a problem exclusive to air travel), your moral decision to defend a woman dressed indecently infringes upon the morals of those who disagree. So for Southwest to err on the side of upholding moral decency, kudos!

Let's remember, a private business has the right to refuse service to ANYONE and the right to ask you to put on a t-shirt, wear shoes, etc. It's certainly not discrimination, persecution or a violation of civil rights to ask a young woman wearing a micro-mini that shows her underwear (or worse, a lack thereof) to cover-up!

The treatment of the customer by SW is unacceptable, abusive and degrading; her outfit was, albeit liberal, but certainly not inappropriate to warrant this humiliation. Since when do the airlines and single conservative customer determine the dress code? AS evident by the reactions here, SW clearly overstepped the appropriate boundaries and insulted their customer. This is outrageous.

SWA has certainly lost me as a customer! if you want to kow tow to the moslems (or whatever nut-case complained about this girl) go live in Iran. Hope ya like burkas!

tjb

I've been a loyal Southwest customer for over 15years and it's time to change airlines. For the most part the collection of nerds....er.... I mean flight attendents and their cornball jokes are easy to tune out. The problems started about 3 or 4 flights ago and has continued on each flight since; the flight attendents are counting the number of drinks that I have and they make a point of commenting on after my second drink by saying something like "you've had two already" . Now the airline has the gall to single out a young lady for the way she is dressed and remove her from the plane. I hope she sucessfully sues southwest out of business.

I absolutely can not believe the way your female passenger was treated. That is absolutely ridiculous. First of all, there are no airline dresscodes, and if there were, I believe you would often find teenage male passengers in violation, yet we don't have reports of them being escorted off of a plane and publicly humiliated. The real problem is that the female was extremely good looking and it is the insecurities of others that should have been addressed. I would 100 times rather sit beside her than anyone else I have ever been stuck beside. Being a young female passenger myself, I will make it a point to never fly southwest, for business or pleasure. It is disappointing that a corporation of such size and diversity can not recognize such an obvious mistake and issue a public apology in lieu of her public humiliation.

I am often offended by the slogans and pictures on t-shirts of male passengers but have yet to witness anything of this degree happening to them. what is the difference in this situation? i think she was treated very unfairly. I am also tired of seeing passengers "sagging" their pants so low that their underwear hangs out. Again, i have yet to see them asked to change their attire. I don't agree with the actions southwest took. I don't find her outfit offensive at all.

I hope this young woman sues you. Public humiliation is not tolerated well. Maybe your airline should pass out garbage bags for each person to wear during their flight so no one is offended. So if I am offended by the muslims for wearing their turbins or females their headwraps I could have them publicly humialited because it was offensive to me? Yeah, that is about how much sense this situation makes. Shame on your airline Southwest!!!

Shame on Southwest. You owe this girl, your customer, an appology. Everything was covered. She need not appologize to anyone for having an attractive figure. Yes, I do believe there should be some criteria that give you the right to refuse service.....such as health and safety considerations. But if you find it acceptable to consider this girl offensive, then we are all subject to similar criticism and discrimination. Perhaps if you focused on what really matters, you might have a better on-time record.

We air travelers jump through enough hoops during our flying odyssey. We have to deal with terror threat levels, TSA, and late or cancelled flights. Give us a break. Don't turn into the morality police. If she made it off the street and wasn't arrested, seems like that passes the litmus test for me. What is Southwest doing, outsourcing to the Taliban or some extreme right wing Christian group? I've seen worse on flights. I sure the young woman wasn't doing any Shakira moves on the plane.

I am much more offended by some squalling baby or someones brat kicking the back of my seat. Maybe you should promote yourselves as the "family only airline" so the rest of us can fly another carrier in peace!!!

Southwest should worry about bigger issues.

You blew it. She's gonna sue and you deserve it. I for one will NOT fly on your airline until you offer her an apology. The statement your company released is self serving, and falls just short of insulting.

You've already lost in the court of public opinion.

Apologize NOW... before you do any more damage to your company!!!

Whauw.... America. 2007. Killing civilians in Irag. Locking people up in Abu Ghraib without a trial. And worried about a womans naked legs.

Why would anyone worry about the future of the US?

This is all news to me. I was not aware. When did Southwest start flying out of Tehran?

For all those people that dont have kids you need to get a life , and for all you people that like to complain about all this petty crap just shut up !!!!
and get over it stop waisting your time on this blob.

Thanks Southwest Airlines for keeping your planes family friendly. When my mother had a restaurant she always enforced a dress and behaviour code. I still laugh about the time she hung a shirt over the back of a chair to hide a large motorcyclist posterior which showed when he sat down. She welcomed anyone as long as they behaved.

By the way, under what legal theory would this young lady sue under? She doesn't stand a chance in court.

Let's use a little common sense here.

I seriously doubt the FA was the one who talked to the woman, or even made the final decision to talk to her. That would be the responsibility of the Customer Service Agent or Supervisor.

FAs and CSAs see lots of cleavage and short skirts, so there had to have been something "different" about this case to make it worthy of any attention at all.

What could have been different about this situation ... come on now ... you already know deep-down what it is, and most of you are ignoring it because it does not fit your bias in the situation.

In reference to your Kyla Ebbert fiasco, is your airline operated by a bunch of fat jealous old women? Was she wearing panties, yes. Showing ariola, no.
Was she HOT, yes. Send the old bags home and get some real management, not Keith. This is 2007.

My choice? Any airline except SWA. I choose what to wear not SWA.

You keep the your clothes police and I will keep my money. Plenty of other airlines to choose from.

First, I want to commend Southwest for posting about this situation and letting all of us post our comments, good and bad. I don't know a lot of companies who would allow this kind of dialog on an official company blog.

Second, do I think the flight attendant went too far? Yes. I've seen people wearing much worse on flights. But that's the problem with rules about "approrpriate" dress. It can be way too subjective and interpreted hundreds of different ways, which causes problems with consistency of policy. I wouldn't have had a problem with the outfit, but maybe my mother would have.

Third, was her treatment horrible enough for me to say I'll never fly Southwest again? Certainly not. They get me from point A to point B pretty much on time and at a great fare, especially if I've snagged a DING! fare.

And I have to question what Miss Ebbert's untimate goal is. I mean, why did she feel the need to go on the Today Show -- with a lawyer? Is this really such an egregious error on Southwest's part that deserves legal action? I think not. She's had her 15 minutes of fame -- it's time to move on.

Some prude did the wrong thing. I will not fly your airline in the future. How dare you humiliate this young woman!

Your airline sucks...

bad airline

let me take a wild guess...the flight ttendant that confronted this young lady was a female? do i smell jealously.the next time i have to fly youre slackass airline,or anyone that cares about our freedoms ,isuggest we do this.any flight attendant you feel is ugly ,obnoxiuos ,rude or just youre usual i dont care...complain to the captain and have her covered up....what is the difference

I cannot believe the NAZI tactics your employees use...they have power so they ABUSE it! I will never fly Southwest again!

GO!! South West.. Right On with these skimpee so called mini Yea Right
There is a place for for that kind of dress.You all got mad a paris hillton
For showing he goodies Now look at what she was wareing..If in fact
she works for Hooters then Why was she on SouthWest?She knew what
would happen ...And you all gave her what she wanted.."the spotlie "

SouthWest Should post Something On its dress code.
The airline has the right to do this....Nice job,SW.

I was outraged to read about SouthwestÃ

I saw what that young woman was wearing. There was nothing inappropriate about it. The only inappropriate conduct was on the part of Southwest. I'll never let my daughter or wife travel on Southwest. The employee who attempted to humiliate Southwest's paying customer should be terminated, the company should make a public apology to the young woman, and, quite frankly, should compensate her for this debacle. It really is outrageous.

How humiliating for that young woman. And to be lectured to on top of it, unforgiveable. I hope to God you have the good sense to fire at least the arrogant nit-wit that felt it necessary to deliver that last indignity.
I'm going pray tonight that I find myself on that jury so that your apology can be delivered in VERY expensive terms.

SWA should be commended for what they did. If you want to expose yourself, go pose for Playboy. Why do women think it is OK to dress like hookers? She, and her family, should be embarrassed instead of getting on TV. At least "act" like you have some class.

I agree with the rest of the world-- this CSR's actions were unjustified. I would recommend that Southwest be very careful about who they hire in the future.

I'm glad that this Airline stepped up to the plate and made the "girl" cover her body.I mean come on !!! Its ok for her to dress that way at her work "Hooters" but not in the public. Not everyone wants to see half naked women running around. Obviously this women was exposing herself to the point where they felt it was indecent.
I personal think she should be charged with "Indecent exposure "
(meaning of indecent= "not proper,in bad taste, not modest 'unfit to be seen,obsene.") Think of the small children that were in that airport or on that flight. I as a parent think that Southwest did the appropiate thing. I also think that women in todays society need to be more aware of how they dress and present themselves to our youth. Even if you dont have children! I wish more people would step up to the plate and not encourage our young girls to dress and act like Tramps. I THINK SOUTHWEST WAS JUSTIFED FOR THERE ACTIONS !!!!!!!!! I APPLAUD YOU SOUTHWEST AIRLINE.

Good for Southwest Airlines for taking a stand. It's obvious the pictures the media is of Kyla "now" are after she re-dressed herself. Her skirt is the kind that one can "adjust the length" and the pictures are after she covered her cleavage. This is a public decency matter and no other paying customers should have to be embarressed by this woman revealing her private parts - or even giving a sneak peak. She should know better and it's her fault for not using good decision in the first place.

Good for you Southwest Airlines!!!

Is Southwest now the religious patrol, a la Iran? Having flown your airline I have seen all types of dress including some unwashed shirts by your counter employees. What is next, removal of Muslims or Jews due to inappropriate head dress?

Why doesnÃ

I hope you get sued. This is ridiculous. She was covering everything necessary. Thanks Southwest, now you have definitely made up my mind to not fly your airline ever again.......There are greater concerns in this world, that someone dressed with a short skirt.
I believe she is owed an apology and the holier than thou person that made the decision to give her a sermon on proper attire, should be FIRED. How dare they judge someone other than themselves....

Wow, I'm shocked and disgusted by SWA's behavior. I have always liked this airline, but I have to say that I now look at them in an entirely different way; a very negative way, indeed.

I personally see nothing wrong with her outfit. SWA needs to pay more attention to lost luggage instead of girls mini-skirts. I will be switching to AA for all my future business and personal flights. As will all my employees. SWA should take notice, the people commenting on here are a very small percentage. Imagine how much business you are losing over your stance on this matter.

I am disgusted with the Airline industry trying to police everything. Now you go and start enforcing a Public dress code that doesn't even exist!!! No way would I consider air travel on this airline. Here is a thought, Instead of worrying about what clothes we are wearing, try to get the flight off at the time you posted for it. Basically do the job you are supposed to be doing.

I think, maybe, if I had started to listen to that personal lecture on morality from that self-righteous flight attendant I would have slapped her silly, if I was female, or punched him in the face, hard, if male, as I am. It probably would have got me arrested on an assault charge, and I think it would have been worth it. Of course, I will never, unless I have absolutely no choice at all, fly Southwest ever again. I saw the pic of the young lady - she was stylishly dressed for a summer day. Her clothing was legal on the street at the point of departure and at the point of landing. Where, how, on what basis do you or your employees suddenly become morals police and fashion critics? I heard on TV show a lawyer say that he thought Southwest was way out-of-line and wrong, but gave it as his legal opinion a lawsuit would not succeed. That really is too bad. The only thing that will make a real impact is to successfully sue Southwest, and the employee personally, and the "old lady", whomever it was, who complained - again personal lawsuit. I cannot understand why she can't sue for humiliation and so on. I hope Southwest loses millions in lost customers. What is more, if you are such an all-fired "family values" airline, whatever the heck that actually means, then say so - label yourselves as such, and tell all customers they must pass a "proper attire, dress code" inspection before boarding. The employee thing is more difficult. On the one hand, he or she should be fired. On the other hand, wrong as wrong can be, I can see why you might want to stand behind the employee. I hope it costs you, heavily, to do so.

CONGRATULATIONS Southwest for kicking Kyla Ebbert off the plane!

What I find so extraordinary is the number of people who defend her dress!

This in-your-face-if-you-don't-like-it-that's-your-problem attitude people have today from dress (or lack of it) to cell phones to loud music is representative of a far more serious problem with this country today.

Have some self respect, people. If you want to look like a whore or a Bosnian refugee in shredded clothes or a parolee in tattoos, that's your right, but don't ask the rest of us to sit next to you.

Keep up your standards, Southwest! There are millions of us who agree with you.

What is proper attire for Southwest Airlines, a burka? Are we now to have the "morality police" doing the rounds?

I want to applaud Southwest Airlines for asking this exibitionist girt to cover up her exposed flesh. She even flashed her panties on the Today show. Her skirt was way too short and who knows if she was even wearing underpants. Again, SWA, I applaud you.

I have no idea what the employees at Southwest were thinking... What is next? Southwest issuing each of the passengers a uniform?

Southwest should fire the employee or employees responsible for making such a ridiculous decision... That might be an appropriate response. Obviously those employees cannot be trusted to be thinking clearly.

The arrogance of this corporate airline is too much to believe. Well at least it is one less choice I have to make when booking to fly. You people really need to issue the, "what in the world were we thinking statement!" I would tell that poor young lady you are sorry real quick like.

Many shorter skirts may reveal a "croch shot" if one is sitting on a chair with a camera aimed at around knee level! She was in a plane seat, for heaven's sake! To get a crotch shot one would need to bend over and walk toward her on the aisle with eyes around 3-4 feet over the floor, assuming she was in an aisle seat!
Good heavens! If the clothing is street legal, then the airline, as such, can have and should have no comment. I hope she sues them for their back teeth!

Why does everyone think a company can't make policies pertaining to its employees and customers? "News flash," they can.

I'm sure this young lady is a very nice person, but even nice people can make a wardrobe mistake. I'm sure if she thought someone could see her private parts, she would have put on a different skirt that morning...right?

Okay, I'll give you this...had I been the flight attendant on duty that day, I would have told her of this problem in a very private manner. Some ladies aren't very nice to other ladies though. In any case...

Come-on! Let's cover-up our private parts when we're in public, people! And for that matter, let's take baths, brush our hair, was our clothes, talk in our inside voice...just like how our moms taught us!

Both parties just need better manners.

Posting her next flight schedule could be a boom for southwest. Just think about the hoards of mouth-breathing, mullet-heads who would spend their last dime of beer money to sit next to her! Yee ha!

Saw her on the today show.... the outfit was extremely inappropriate and she knows it. I also watched the video online as she flashed the audience. For some reason I'm reminded of Sharon Stone but for the life of me I don't know why.

Keep up the good work.

After seeing all the comments posted I'm not sure if Southwest will take the time to read them all but here's my two cents...I fly my son on SW and have for over 10 years now. However, after the latest incident I'm not so sure I want to do business with SW again. There are many other discount airlines to travel that won't treat someone so badly as Kyla. Personally I think that jealously and personal feelings were brought into this when it shouldn't have.
Southwest...get yourselves together and I really hope that Kyla does sue and wins. It's about time that you realize we are not in the 1800's and women are not only highly independent but free to dress how they wish. Since you don't have a defined dress code you are totally in the wrong. Believe me...I've seen many a flight attendant wear a lot less than Kyla. I do hope you read this and learn from it or you'll be outta business real soon because women will no longer fly your airline.

I stand behind the decision of the Customer Service Rep. and behind that of Southwest Airlines. At first I didn't think anything about her skirt, but after seeing a couple different pictures of it and reading some of the articles it is clear she had a skirt on that was not appropriate for the situation. If it were me (Customer Service Rep.), I would have most likely done the same thing. It's an "executive decision" that had to be made and they did, in my opinion, the correct thing for the business and for the other customers on that flight.

Bravo to Southwest Airlines for attempting to protect its passengers from
what has become an all too common event; yet another display of
exhibitionism under the guise of 1st Amendment rights. Sadly, there are
far too many who now feel the only way to gain attention is through a lack
of clothing and poor behavior.

I watched Ms. Ebbert 'demonstrate' the outfit in question during her
interview on the Today Show. After standing up, adjusting her 'skirt' as
Southwest had asked her to do, and then attempting to sit down...viewers
around the world were treated to a view of her most private parts albeit
covered with some form of white under garment.

Those of us who still remember how to dress appropriately in public should
not be forced to witness the sights brought about by a skirt more
appropriate to Ms. Ebbert's job at Hooters, nor see-through blouses sans
any undergarments, nor half-covered behinds because belts are now worn
across the pelvis rather than the waist.

And....shame on Ms. Ebbert's mother for gaining her 15 minutes of fame by
defending her daughter's right to expose herself rather than instructing
her on proper public attire.

i fly frequently and see outfits of varying types...p.j. bottoms and tiny tank tops,sport bras and short shorts, bras showing under see-through blouses....my philosophy is `don't look if it bothers you'...you should fly in what makes you comfortable (except total nudity of course

I understand the argument that girls dress like this on college campuses, at the mall, etc. However, in those cases, we are not forced to sit next to them or have our children sit next to them and we are not forced to look at them. That is the essential difference in this case. An airplane is not only a public place but a very intimate environment where people are, literally, often touching strangers for hours. Decorum, cleanliness and an understanding of this unique environment is essential.

It's about time SW taught people who apparently do not know understand for themselves, what is appropriate dress when traveling in such a close environment.

I hope SW will continue to respect the rights of all its customers who don't want to sit next to a near-naked customer who doesn't have the common sense to know the difference between a wide-open college campus and cramped airplane cabin. I applaud SW on the actions it took in the Kyla Ebbert case.

Kudos to you, Southwest. You are my favorite airline, and you always will be. Recently, I had to sit on a flight (not yours) and be subjected to crotch shots of two passengers who appeared to be imitating Paris Hilton. Every time they stood up or bent over, we were all given a free show of their g-strings. Sorry, but that isn't something I want to see on a two-hour flight over and over. This girl was wearing an outfit that was INTENDED to show off her underwear and breasts. Now, of course, she works at Hooters who promotes that attire, but then why not fly THEIR airline if she intends to dress that way? I am so sick of people passing judgment on companies that require some sense of respect. If this woman had a screaming child who couldn't be calmed, I am sure the decision would have been different because it couldn't be helped. Sorry, but if you dress like you want the world to see your underwear, you'll get just that. I love your airline, and I am so happy that you take this stance! I am sure more people will fly your airline than leave it because you have standards.

Thank you!

One of the few (if not the only) profitable airline in the industry and you BLOW IT with a stupid move like this? What were you possibly thinking? The outfit was not only acceptable by any reasonable standard, but was less revealing than the outfits your own flight attendants once wore. Just keep flying people cheaply and safely where they want to go and leave the policing of morality to the zealots.

This treatment of one of your customers was deplorable. Plain and simple. Have you digressed to such prudishness that a woman can not show her legs on an airline flight? What's next a bhurka or full cover up for any young and beautiful female, because of so called "family values"? You know there is not a child on that flight that would have even noticed that outfit.

I thought for sure this was some sort of joke, when I read the news story. SWA should be ashamed of what their employee did and that employee should be reprimanded at the very least. I will not fly your airline again and I will not reccomend it to anyone. I live in one of your big markets but I'll gladly fly united, wear the length of my skirt is not tied to the value of my business.

This is ridiculous. Even though I rarely fly, I'll definitely go out of my way NOT to choose to fly on this, Southwest Airlines, option. Maybe they won't like my outfit; so they'll never get any of my $$$! They're obviously losers and it makes me think that their actual planes are probably the next ones to crash since one's outfit is so important. Safety records aside, I'll happily choose an airline which lets us, the paying customers, choose our clothing when flying as long as national security concerns are adhered to.
While, as a private enterprise, Southwest Airlines can discriminate freely as to who flies on their planes in any manner as they see fit; it is also my choice to never select Southwest Airlines as my airline given their strict dress code. It seems to me that, as a freedom loving American in his 50's, a boycott of Southwest Airlines by all air travelers is appropriate! We, the people, DO HAVE the ultimate power with our money and Southwest Airlines needs to pay the price for its chosen, discriminatory behavior.

At first, my reaction was shock and outrage against S.W.....however, looking at the photo of her sitting down and knowing that her skirt IS in fact pulled DOWN, per her words, perhaps the steward was not too hasty. If my child saw this woman with her skirt pulled UP higher than what her photo shows (which is pretty darn high) and which likely showed her underwear along with her very tight top (with out the sweater covering her) I think I would feel compelled to search for the right words to explain to my child about seeing this. I've changed my mind and challenge everyone to simply take another glance at this photo.

Thanks

As the Republic begins its death rattle, you will see more and more stories like this one.
Well, it's after 9/11 and we all have to do our part by forgetting the Bill of Rights, right?
This is a somewhat amusing instance of pure fascism, though it is clear the woman was dressed no differently than other people her age dress anywhere.
Poeple need to fly, but don't you just feel really Soviet these days at any airport.?Ten dollar an hour minions with little or no criminal history background checks can steal your belongings, detain you, give you a body cavity search, just because they don't like the look on your face, and if you complain, you're a terrorist.
It's little wonder this has devolved into the Thought Police making fashion descisions for the passengers.
Same time next year and a similiar offense will send her to the camps.
If we have another Presidential election, think how many passengers may be thrown off a plane for wearing a T-shirt that endorses any non-Neo-Con Fascist candidate.
Remember the Inquisition was a faith-based initiative.

The situation with the short skirt is an example of an employee or group of employees that for reasons of jealousy or just plain ignorance, crossed the line between airline standards and airline dictatorship. This move showed a lack of discernment and judgement. I travel very often and see all kinds of ill mannered people not to mention drunkards, and people with abhorrent hygiene. Is anything said to these people? Ok I can attest that I have seen an airline remove a drunk for obvious reasons, but a young girl with a short skirt? What threat did she pose to the airline, other than looking more appealing than the flight staff? Isn't the airline supposed to protect their passengers from the danger of terrorist or criminal activity? This is absolutely outrageous and just another example of a group of people who have taken their "power" a little too seriously. The American Government should step in here slap Southwest. They violated this woman's rights and caused her undue stress. Isn't the United States wonderful? Anyone can carry a pistol, but a young girl can't wear a mini-skirt onto a plane? Maybe we should ammend the constitution to include the right to bear short mini-skirts?

Southwest you should be ashamed. Flight attendants should have consistent guidelines (which should be shared with the public PRIOR to boarding the plane) and not allow their personal prudery or the complaint of an uptight guest affect their treatment of another customer. If you have a problem don't look at her! I'm sure there were many men on that flight who were enjoying the sights. Put the children in another row, and tell their mom to mind her own business. Strangers are not required to be role models for her children according to her standards. Would she be able to get Paris and Britney thrown off that plane, or would she be asking them for their autograph? Soutwest, you handled this poorly--you humiliated an innocent passenger, alienated scores of potential passengers, and have come no closer to letting us know what kind of things might get "us" kicked off your plane too. You know what, I won't risk it. I'll be flying on another airline. You owe that girl and apology and the nation a statement of policy.

I am offended by SW's treatment of the passenger. There was no reason to embarrass and humiliate her. The person offended should have been offered the opportunity to change to another flight. I no longer "LUV "SW, they were in the wrong and should offer public apologies and reparations.

So does this mean that I can complain about mom-jeans, beehive hair, pencil mustaches, or even perfume? Have you seen the outfits your employees wear? Now those are offensive.

Maybe she was just making it easier on herself to go through security?

Since my last posting I've learned that SWA states on their ticket (contrary to what they said in TV interview) that they reserve the right to refuse any flight to anyone including based upon a person's dress (or undress). They then legally did have a right to put her off the airplane. Since they didn't, I don't know the status of something that might appear to be harassment. Also, there was a complaint by fellow passenger(s) before the incident.
As far as tolerance goes, in the 50 some years I've been a Christian, this nation has become more evil every decade. I believe that this nation will fall in judgment just like Rome did.

Great Job SWA!!! Just please don't cave to the pressures of a few with no scruples. Perhaps all those in the peanut gallery in favor of scantily clad women can be redirected to Hooters AirÃ

Please use this instead of my first post I made an error in my Hooters comment.

Thanks

Great Job SWA!!! Just please donÃ

To Herbert Kelleher:

Your airline's lack of an apology to Kyla Ebbert regarding the "appropriate dress" incident, and your lack of sensitivity in NOT admitting that your employee was wrong, has caused me to rethink your airline as a whole.
As you can tell from early pictures of Southwest Air employees attire, they looked alot like that which your employee condemned.

As a result of your companies PR campaign to save face, instead of doing the right thing, I for one, will not ever fly Southwest again...and believe me, I have flown with Southwest a lot in the past. I will find other alternatives.

I do think both men and women should address appropriately in public.
The young woman ultimalely was allowed to travel.

Bill

Heh. I don't care about folks' "family values" concerning casualwear, but I don't particularly want to sit in a seat that someone's naughty bits have been in recent contact with. Eeeewwww. Short skirts on cute girls are OK, kicking them off flights may be overkill -- but could you maybe make them sit on a blanket?

Great work Southwest for standing up for the morals that most of the country has dismissed!!! The attention seeking girl's skirt was too short. It was so disgusting to see her on the Today Show to pretend that there wasn't anything wrong with the outfit. She and her mother knew it was inappropriate. The Today Show knew it was inappropriate because they had to blur out the crotch area when she sat down! Who really cares if there is a Paris want to be!

I hope Kyla sues your butt off...

Brian, you don't get it. she wasn't "asked to cover up" as you say. She was told she couldn't fly unless she changed her clothes. With the level of disempowerment that American passengers have undergone in the last five years, being told you 'can't fly' is a touchpoint only made worse when they've being called out for subjective moral reasons.

Your response on this blog is the most insensitive use of a corporate blog I've seen to date, and coming from the Manager of Customer Communications it shows me that Southwest is steadily losing its way. what had been a sincere positive attitude of caring about the customer and about the profession is quickly becoming a caricature of itself. I've been seeing Southwest employees 'acting cheerful' and 'putting on a face' because that's the company's image and that's their employee's role.

You know as well as I do that the situation could have been handled much better by working with the passenger to express the problem in more specific, actionable terms than 'you're dressed inappropriately' and that Keith the airline agent should have been working from the presumption that the passenger's time was just as valuable as another passenger's sensibilities.

Keith made a mistake by not thinking of a blanket sooner and should have only suggested (and not required) that the passenger take a later flight until all other avenues had been exhausted, but your actions in justifying Southwest's position by using your corporate blog to humiliate this passenger is inexcusable.

I've been an active Southwest customer for 15 years and at this point all I can say is that I'm glad that Virgin America is serving SFO, LAS and LAX, because it gives me an alternate airline filled with people who are sincerely eager to cater to their customers.

Kevin Fox

I want to say kudos for the way Southwest reacted. SW approached her on the complaint of another customer. The same way they will approach parents who have misbehaving children....SW takes care of their customers concerns...this is the reason I fly with SW.
They did NOT kick her off the plane. They asked her to "adjust" her clothing and she was able to fly on to her destination. I am sure this was embarassing for her but she should be use to the attention that dressing in that sexy manner receives. She wasn't at Hooters she was in a public place with small children a knee level probably excited to look up a pretty girls skirt.
Did any of you fellow bloggers actually see the Today show interview? They censored her underwear when she crossed her legs!
To those who argue over the skimpy uniforms that SW wore years ago: Why are the attendants now covered? Customers found the outfits demeaning and complained. SW response.....new uniforms!
I will admitt she was a very cute girl and she had the legs to pull an outfit like that off. Still her skirt was very short. When you wear that kind of stuff you run the risk of offending someone. It is the risk you take. She took the risk and someone complained because of it.
She is the one who turned this into a big media circus. Would you go national TV and show your underwear? If so don't fly SW. Thanks!

Thank you, Southwest, for the way you handled this - nice to see a corporation not be "Fearful" of stepping on a toe. We all know indecent exposure when we see it. If this girl was so embarrassed - why all the TV gigs?

The skirt was revealing

She did go on the flight

CNN is misinformed

Lets set this right.

They refer to SWA Hot Pants

As mini skirts

That's like calling a hat

A shoe or a shirt

One person said

If she paid she should go

It's a family airline

Not a peep show

If you want to see her panties

Just watch the replay

Of the Show

They call Today

Too Bad, Southwest. You blew it.
You used to be a fun airline and now you are a dumb airline. What will happen to your stock now? If Kyla had been wearing a G-string and Pasties, you would have had a leg to stand on but as one commentator said she was "street legal". You have no policy and you have no case! Glad I don't own your stock!

If everyone would step back and let the emotions cool, the situation would be hysterical. Everyone is concerned about clothing but why aren't the pilots and the stewardesses/stewards having breathalyzer tests and narcotic blood tests done prior to take-off? Do clothing make a safe flight or healthy functional staff?!

Get real people! Life is more precious than emotional trauma because of some "perceived" affront.

I am supportig SW Airlines in the recent issue with the young woman who thinks it is appropriate to dress in a short skirt and low neckline around families with young children and young boys under the age of 18. If she is going for a job interview, to the doctor, or traveling on an airline she needs to understand her provocative clothing gives the wrong impression and sends a clear sexual message. If she was going to a club , hanging out at a bar, well she would not have received all the attention. For all of you that think she has the right to dress anyway she wants to I hope she sits next to your young boys, husband or lover.

Well, we've certainly found a new controversy to focus on now, haven't we? Clearly the actions by one or two of Southwest's Employees in this situation were horribly inappropriate. There is no question that those involved should be summarily fired.

Moreover, I don't think a simple termination is sufficient to address the severity of their lapse in judgment. There is no good reason that I can imagine that should limit Southwest's management to just kicking these folks out the door. Being a firm believer that the punishment should fit the crime, I say that the person(s) who made this egregious error should be stripped down to a minimal amount of clothing, securely locked into a set of public stocks and then flogged mercilessly by anyone who wants to drive by and get in some exercise for their arm that only gets a workout when it is busy pointing out blame and faults in others.

But, since those one or two Employees serve in a global sense as representatives of the entire Company, then under the theory of "the buck stops here", I think all 34,000 Employees should be ridiculed in public stocks and every citizen of the United States, and definitely every person who has ever flown on Southwest, thought about flying on Southwest, heard of Southwest or even eaten any peanuts anywhere, should have the chance to pick up the whip of physical assault to go along with the intense verbal assaults already being voiced above.

However, if you think of it, even THAT is not enough retribution for the horrendous evil that has been perpetrated here. Obviously, EVERY Southwest Employee should then be fired as well, each of the half-of-a-thousand planes should be given away, and the corporate headquarters and all physical facilities and equipment should be given away or destroyed until any and all reminders of what "used to be a great company" are obliterated from our collective memories.

Does THAT make you happy?

Stop and think about the vindictiveness of the hundreds of responses above. One or two or even a handful out of 34,000 people did something that YOU think is wrong, and your reaction is off the Richter scale! I won't even count how many folks above said in one way or another, "I'll NEVER fly your airline again!" and how many accusations have been hurled that include racial, religious and intellectual slurs and insults.

Whether you agree or disagree with the basics of this story, consider a few things for a minute. First, how many of you enraged but now disenfranchised Customers know ALL of the facts of this situation? In my experience, many times only first-hand observers really know what happened. Second, how many of you trust the news media to report this story fully and fairly? Anyone who believes the media can be counted on to be wholly unbiased, especially following the built-up inner rage from the last year's worth of major abuses of passengers by airlines, is probably also sitting outside with Linus all night waiting for the Great Pumpkin to rise from the pumpkin patch. Third, when weighed against inconveniencing passengers for as long as some people spend at their jobs each day, with eight hour delays stuck inside a plane, how is it that the quantity and spitefulness of reactions to this story is so proportionately out of balance?

It seems to me that, right or wrong, some Southwest Employees made a decision involving this one Customer. You can agree or disagree with that decision, but let me ask this -- how many of you who have a job have EVER made a mistake at work? Have you ever done something that might not have been the most prudent course of action? And if you've answered yes to those two questions, how ready would you have been at the time to have hundreds of people line up to call you vile names, insult your intelligence and threaten that they will never do business with your company again?

I've said this before and I'll say it again, the 34,000 Employees at Southwest are human, and I'm not aware of any human who is perfect and has never made a mistake. In my opinion, the reactions above would be similar to me having heard of a McDonald's employee in, let's say Miami, refuse to serve a Big Mac to someone in their store, and then me declaring, "well, I will NEVER AGAIN eat at ANY McDonald's in the world!!" Even if I had been the potential Big Mac connoisseur who was turned away, it would still be so grossly out of whack for me to castigate the entire company and its workforce!

Get a perspective, people! Good or bad, the decision was made, and if you feel so personally violated and offended that you will NEVER AGAIN patronize the low-fare leader who has a proven track record of spectacular treatment of its Customers, then you are proverbally cutting off your own nose to spite your face. I hope that your sensibilities are equally affronted by outrageous profit-taking by the big oil companies and that you will henceforth refuse to buy gasoline. I hope that the next call by a referee that you disagree with during the next football game you watch will provoke you to stop watching football. Oh, and the next time you see something on a television show that bothers you, I do hope you will allow your outrage to manifest itself to a point of declaring that you'll never again watch a TV show on that network.

Could we all just collectively stop, catch our breath and then go make a mountain out of a more important molehill?

Kim
External Blog Boy, who supports front-line Employees who are faced with difficult situations every day and who try to make the right choices :)

I support SWA in their decision to respond to a complaint relative to the scanty apparrel of Kyla Ebert. Southwest is my airline of choice and will continue to be so.

I'm pleased with Southwest's handling of this situation. Not many companies have the guts to stand up to women that dress inappropriately.

This was a cry for attention on this woman's part, and now she's not happy with the attention she got!

Thank you Southwest for making her cover up! You have another customer for life now.

Hello everyone, we live in a free country, freedom of speech, etc. I personally have to many things in my life to worry about what one 23 year girl is wearing or every other 23 year old in America and any other country for that matter. Unless she is taking it all off for others to see, or speaking offensively, I could care less. Those of you are offended by her outfit....maybe you need to look into your own life, because I promise....you are not perfect. I think it boils down to, someone felt threatened because she is a very pretty young lady and well....unfortunately we are all not super models. God made each and everyone of us differently. I have seen some women whose makeup and hair offended me. I am truly disappointed in Southwest and the way their staff conducted themselves in this matter and may others. With out the travelers, they would cease to exit. We have enough people telling us what to do, when to do it, and how to do it. I think I could do without my airlines telling me what I should wear. Simply put.....GET A LIFE PEOPLE!!!!!

The bottomline is this SWA has the right to refuse service to certain situations you pay for the ticket to get from point A to point B you don't own the aircraft. Look at stores that display NO shirt, NO shoes, NO service or restaurants/bars that say They have the right to refuse service! What if someone boarded the aircraft with an racy t-shirt with slogans or cuss words on it? I applaud Southwest its their airplane and authority to maintain the comfort of all customers! Just because you buy a ticket does not mean you own the airline! What if I went into Hooters where this young lady worked wearing something that drawed attention to me and away from the Hooters girls? KEEP IT UP SWA to me your the best airline in the USA!

I would like to thank SWA for giving me the opportunity to speak very lowly of them. Their policies have always been suspect in my eyes and this just gives me more ammunition to fire on them. If SWA would like to emphasize the fact that they have the right to deny service to anyone they feel does not convey their corporate policies, they should advertise in the Bible belt and ask that only wholesome, bible toting extreme right wing fundamental christians ride with them. If SWA wants to revert to the social policies of the mid 1900's when help wanted signs at business were seen throughout this country that only specific groups need to apply, SWA should put up a sign in every airport and a warning on advertisements that "we only allow good, wholesome christian fundamentalists fly on our airline"... They sponsor many different sporting events and maybe the general public should pull an Imus on them... boycott those sporting events... Where is aL SHARPTON WHEN WE NEED HIM?

THANK YOU SOUTHWEST! IT WAS COURAGEOUS TO STAND UP TO THE INDECENTLY CLAD WOMAN ON YOUR PLANE. THE TIGHT QUARTERS OF AN AIRPLANE REQUIRE ALL OF US TO BE CONSIDERATE OF OUR FELLOW PASSENGERS. THIS WOMAN OBVIOUSLY DIDN'T CARE WHO SHE OFFENDED WITH HER OUTFIT AND WAS ONLY INTERESTED IN ATTRACTING ATTENTION. WELL, SHE GOT BOTH, POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE. SOME OF US SEE THIS FORM OF DRESS AS AN "IN YOUR FACE" CHALLENGE. IT WAS GOOD TO SEE THAT SOMEONE TOOK THE CHALLENGE AND CALLED HER ON IT.

WE HAVE FLOWN A COLLECTIVE 17 TIMES WITH YOU THIS YEAR AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO. WAY TO GO SWA!!

HORRORS! Where were the air marshals? There could have
been a stoning. Are stones banned items?
Pitiful SW.

I was originally upset at southwest when i heard what they had done, but then I saw the woman and her mother WITH THEIR LAWYER on the Today Show with Matt Lauer. I think it is important to remember two things. People Don't wear outfits like that if the don't want to be noticed!!!! she got the wrong attention... boo hoo for her. Second, as other posters have said if you watch the Today show you can see this woman in her outfit FLASH THE ENTIRE AUDIENCE when she sits down. So she cannot say that the skirt was not too short.
I think that the southwest people handled things correctly if someone brings a problem to their attention then they talk to the customer. Makes sense to me.
All these people who are complaining about southwest would be just as upset and throwing a fit if there was a news story about a passenger who complained about someone dressed this way, but the southwest employees didnt do anything. This is so Silly

Hi
This is not just about the sept 7 incident but others as well

This is America !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It is a free Country

I tried to call buty was kept on hold for a half an hour so I am assuming and hoping you have alot of upset people.

I am a christian mom of two boys and see nothing wrong with that outfit that lady was wearing i would be more concerend about traveling to a hot place and having her get heat exhaution. please excuse spelling errors.
or any other outfits you have kicked people off from.
Freedom of speach is part of America.

Bieng free is a part of America

You are not making people feel free.

I have never flown before because I am deathly afraid of hights however there are some places I want to visit and you can believe I and about 60 other people I know will never fly your flight those who have are boycotting you.
and those who haven't never will
either realise this is America or shut down

I am from Canada. I recognize Americain attitude as usual, Southwest Airlines refuse to let in Kyla Ebberts??? .She should consider a legal action againts Southwest for the humiliation and discrimination... If it was Madonna I bet U one million $$$$ the compagny would let her in the aircraft without any comments. Also, Americans are he biggest porn consumer of the world on internet. So you are double-talk.You r againts the country 's with hijad (islam) and againts short skurts. Usa is a freedom country? It s really a joke. Canada is the best country of the world...

This is ridiculous, the young woman should have been left alone and allowed to fly. I find it interesting that the majority of Southwest employees she encountered that day had no problem with her outfit. She was able to get her boarding pass twice both outbound and inbound, sit in the gate waiting area twice both outbound and inbound, and fly her return flight back to San Diego without any intervention. This says a lot about the employee who did single her out. Perhaps he/she was in error and exercised poor judgement. If Southwest wants to invoke dress policy then it seems all employees should be trained on what that policy is. This young girl was dressed they way most of her peers dress, nothing different, just visit any high school, shopping mall, or college campus and see for yourself.

People have posted comments such as "I find it preposterous and a denial of 1st amendment rights." In my readings of the Consitution, I must have missed the part about one's right to dress in a skirt so short one can see what (if anything) she has on under it... The First Amendment states that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances." Perhaps some of these posters though it is "freedom of the DRESS," not "freedom of the PRESS"?

If anyone has seen "Airline," they would know that Southwest has spoken to passengers about things such as personal odor (and found them something else to wear so they could take the flight).

And the comments that this girl is beautiful? Really??? Even if she was, what does that have to do with the fact that other passengers have the right to an expectation of a flight without witnessing another's passenger's underwear or less than underwear? Or an expectation of not having to be the person who sat in her seat on the next flight without knowing they were sitting where her bare skin was? (and looking at her cached MySpace page and the friends there, I am wondering where her bare skin might have been)

And I doubt we can really portray Southwest as sexist or "misogynist". If a man tried to walk on the plane wearing the same outfit, especially with the skirt hiked up as high as we all know it really was, I'm thinking he would have been pulled aside as well. If males and females would receive the exact same treatment in the exact same circumstance, then the use of terms such as "sexist" or "misogynistIC" are inaccurate and inappropriate.

If this happened to "PrincessKyla" two months ago, why is this just now being brought to the forefront?

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It's not a question of defending or not defending her outfit. I for one found her outfit quite trashy, but that is not the point. This is America, not Afghanistan, people!!!!! It's the principle!!!!
That Southwest employee had no right to label her outfit inappropriate. Perhaps all these moralistic family value types need to take note of that fact. Perhaps when you get singled out for what you are reading, watching or listening to, you'll change your perspective.

I have considered myself one of SWA's biggest fans and most likely I will consider to do so even though I believe SWA has made a thunderous public relations mess out of this. Check out the Southwest ad posted on youtube called "Southwest Airlines commercial circa 1972" from the 1970's and you tell me who made the bigger skirt faux pas. Sure, you may say times have changed but SWA themselves posts this exact same video on their own website. What hipocrisy! Come on SWA, you have apologized for less and this will only get worse if you keep skirting the issue.

VERY disappointed in Southwest Airlines over this.

Not the Southwest I flew for 30 years when I lived in Texas. Wish they were here in Memphis, though I'm not sure I'd meet the standards of their Dress Code.

I guess the radical Christianists have taken over, and Southwest is now just another satrapy of Bushistan.

Such hysteria over a woman feeling embarrassed. If only she felt equally embarrassed to wear clothing that required the Today show's producers to pixilate her nether-regions because she flashed the audience. Sorry if I don't rise to her defense as a ringing endorsement of equality and freedom. And small wonder our courts are clogged, when the first reaction of so many people is to sue because a private company, which you may choose to patronize or not, makes decisions that you don't like. Toughen up, honey, you wanted a reaction to your clothing and you got it.

Allah anyone? Sounds like Sharia law to me!

As a photojournlist who travels thousands of miles a year (Im a Continental frequent flyer) I would NEVER fly Southwest for the despicably arbitrary dress code they hand out when coming in contact with a customer who just wanted to get from point A to point B. Ms. Ebbert didnt seem like much of a threat unless you were seriously worried about male passengers hearts racing (and probably some of the women) on board. What kind of pathetic moron would cast any kind of judgement on another like that? Whats next Southwest? No one allowed to board wearing Steve Madden shoes because they had SEC fraud charges against them? Maybe you should have a questionnaire you fill out when you buy your ticket on how you feel politically, are you pro-life? OK, you can fly with us... George Orwell would love you guys, keep up the good work!

Kudos to Keith who had enough integrity and high moral standards to call her on her indecency! Just because others choose to dress like her doesn't make it right. Wake up America, Rome fell because of moral decay!

Why stop at one-hour flights? For some of the people who left comments here in favor of Southwest's witch hunt, it seems what they would really like to see are clothing cops posted at every corner: in your favorite restaurant, at the mall, in your neighborhood.

Kudos to the flight attendant who had enough integrity and high moral standards to call her on her indecency! Just because others choose to dress like her doesnÃ

I'll never fly South West again. Period. Bfore long you will have bath pools on each plane for those you seem to adair too !!! Your bankrupted in more ways than one.

Oh, one last thing. As another person noted, perhaps she did this knowing that she could get some money out of it by suing, and ABC should be ashamed of themselves since they have their own nudity mess to clean up with a High School Musical star. The media always sides with the idiot running her mouth, and I applaud this flight attendant for her decision. I am sure someone complained to her about it, since she probably sees thousands of women on her flights, and this was the only one who was obviously that badly dressed.

Kim Wells,
It is no secret that this is a moderated blog. The reasons are outlined in our User's Guide up above on the right. The only reason a small number of comments haven't been posted. We haven't manipulated the comments, and I ask you to ask yourself how many companies would post this many negative comments in an effort to foster an open dialogue. Frankly, it's disappointing to know that you and some others find it impossible to believe that people may hold other opinions.
Brian

Furthermore,Think about those planes sitting on the tarmac's, or out in the boneyard in Tuscon, and ask yourself why You hire Ignorant Idiot's who think they are better than anyone else. I hope your airline goes broke. Stop being fashion police, and start being a bit more considerate for your passanger's, what passenger's I am sure You don't have left....

I am infuriated with this passenger and actually even more with her mother. How ridiculous to use the "Well, EVERYONE else this age dresses this way" excuse. Of course, the proper response would have been simply to proffer a blanket to this uneducated person and leave it at that; as an earliet commentor properly pointed out, better manners could have been used by both parties. I hope Southwest Airlines was listening to that young woman in that interview: She said all she wants is an apology - GIVE HER ONE BUT NOT A RED CENT. Oh, and have it on NBC too, so that the flight attendant gets some credit for being a brave man in a crazy world. I for one appreciate him and flight attendants in general who care for passengers safety at all levels while we are in their care.

I always thought of WN as being a "fun" airline -- flight attendants in shorts (and apparently in miniskirts themselves during the 1970s, from photos I've seen), jokes during pre-flight announcements, creative advertising ("a symbol of freedom"), etc. And I've often flown them for this reason.

But now it seems that Southwest is just becoming prudish. Was this woman's outfit a tad risque? Perhaps, although I personally don't see it. But it certainly wasn't lewd or offensive to anyone with reasonable judgment. I'm not going to say I'll never fly Southwest again, but when it comes to whose fares I'll check first when I'm on leisure travel, I'm a lot more likely to look at jetBlue or Virgin America, which seem to embrace the "fun" image.

At the very least, on an airline named Virgin America, I'll have some confidence I won't arbitrarily be thrown off the plane because some FA dislikes my attire.

Southwest needs to publicly apologize to this passenger and to say so on this blog.

What it boils down to is this, if Southwest has a dress code they need to provide it to there potential customers so they can make an informed decision as to there travel plans. Since they claim not to have a dress code, the incident should never have happened.
Had they made a simple apology to the young lady for the way she was treated, it would have been dropped.
I know Southwest has low fares but to think thatÃ

The photos they are showing on the cable news channels of this womans outfit show only the front, but I have a feeling the flight attendants' actions were prompted more by the rear view. I applaud their actions. Airplanes are not the place for public nudity, and with a skirt that short no doubt her bottom was hanging out.

Women should have more self respect then to wear something that is going to show their crotch or the crack of their behind! I do not want to see it and no I am not jealous. Somethings are considered indecent and if I saw someones underwear or crotch because their skirt was to short that would be indecent to me. Honestly do you really think this girl didn't dress up a little for television?? I would love to hear from a passenger on the plane.
I will always fly SWA! It is ashame they have to ask a adult to "cover up" because they do not know how to dress decent!
Keep up the great job SWA! I think you took alot of heat from this that was NOT necessary!
WOMEN it is called self respect!

Regarding the experience of Ms. Kyla Ebbert on Southwest, Southwest airlines has got to be kidding! After all, in the not so distant past, they were the airline of stewardesses wearing Hot Pants and Boots. They have a heck of a nerve kicking an attractive young woman off one of their planes because she was wearing an outfit more modest than some seen daily on the streets of Dallas. This probably is another case of some nut-job assuming they have a God-given right not to be offended anywhere anytime by anyone.

Very disapointed about Southwest on this one. I've been a loyal customer for years and "converted" many others to fly Southwest. Guess we will all have to watch how we "dress up" for Southwest.

Women in Burkas make me nervous. Do I have a right to express this fear to a Southwest Flight Attendant and have them removed.?

Why was the male flight attendant so fearful of a female that was covered up more than what you would see on any college campus or beach or city street? A sexual problem on the part of the FA, we don't know.

I've sat next to passengers on Southwest (and other Airlines) that had severe odor problems, I did not not complain for fear of embarrasing the passenger and myself. Perhaps your FA's need to learn some tolerance????

"It doesn't matter if advertising is bad or good, as long as they talk about you" painter/artist Salvador Dali once said.... and maybe that's what the people of "Southwest" are in for, getting free advertisement on the internet, worldwide, even reaching good old Europe.

But surely I would'nt be "nuts about Southwest" but more likely think, certain people of Southwest are "nuts"... making such a fuzz about a student girl little bit "short-dressed...."

WHO is the "sick" one in this incident.... the company or it's representative, harassing a paying customer (a pitty so many companies these days dont know the meaning of this word anymore) who did nothing at all? The company's representative who apparently made some sexual connections in his own little weird mind?

Maybe better put your "nuts" back into the open packet and put them in garbage bin - they seem to be rotten....

I'm from San Diego and I've always found Southwest to be a "fun" airline in the same manner that PSA used to be. And I've missed Airline since it was cancelled by A&E. I enjoyed watching some of the stupid things that people tried to get away with while flying...it made Southwest employees seem "real" to me.

While I will continue to fly Southwest, I am profoundly disappointed in how Southwest is handling this matter. While I acknowledge that the skirt was a little short for my taste, I see no logic in a Southwest asking this person to leave the airplane. While she may have flashes the TV audience, nobody has compared her to Britney Spears and it is a lot more difficult to flesh fellow passengers while sitting in the cramped seating of a 737.

I would like to know what prompted the decision and whether it was in response to a customer complaint or by the crew.

Hooray for SWA - If we wanted to see obscene looking girls expose themselves, we would go to a nightclub that featured them (I know there are plenty that have REALLY pretty ones).

Hooray for the Today Show - you showed us the real reason for the lewd display. Mom and Kyla brought their LAWYER along !!

For all you Misfits that said "Sue SWA", the Lawyer's presence should make you happy.

And now we all know the purpose for the Airline Trip for a Doctor Visit (surely it doesn't take a whole lot of intelligence to conclude that the Flight Attendant on the return leg would probably react differently).

Kind of a sleazy way to get SWA to enrich your bank account.

Family Airline?

With a special page devoted to gay and lesbian travel???? Where is your heterosexual page???

I applaud Southwest for its openness in addressing this, but the fact remains that the airline got a deserved black eye because of a prudish, boorish flight attendant.

Why wasn't the blanket offered first, discreetly, without publicly humiliating this young woman?

WHY WAS THAT NECESSARY?

Since when does Southwest Airlines behave like the freaking Taliban or some Iranian mullah?

Who initiated this problem, anyway?

And why did the FA act like the Morality Police?

Is this what America is coming to?

Some Christianist passenger, like some of the commenters on this forum?

Are the religious bigots getting THIS bold now?

They need to be slapped down, HARD.

And if Southwest claims it WASN'T some brazen religious bigot, does this mean that I, by complaining, can get rid of the next fat, smelly passenger next to me, or the screaming baby?

really dumb thing to do, guys, but I do like the fact you give the workers the power to, well, really goof up at times. People will make mistakes, but it they are trusted to make decisions, most of the time the decisions will be right or at least workable. I myself am much more concerned about getting timely information concerning flight delays and the like than with what my fellow passengers are wearing. When I am sitting at a gate at the time the plane is supposed to be leaving, and we're not boarding, and we've not been told why, THEN I'm concerned.

Can someone please point me to where on Southwest's website where it says there is a dress code for getting on an airplane? She paid her airfare and should be able to fly. Southwest just ran ads on TV last month with women in bathing suits advertising fares to Florida (covering up much less than this girl) so I don't know why Southwest was making a big deal out of this.

I have flown on SWA many, many times and have seen people dressed in all manner of getups. To my knowledge, SWA has never before been accused of victimizing anybody because of their attire. This leads me to believe, based on past behavior, that SWA probably did not suddenly become fashion police. i think it would behoove supposedly intelligent people to stop and ask for the full story before diving right into mob mentality.

This is what I wrote to CNN about their reporting of this non-news story:
The story about the former Hooters waitress and Southwest Airlines is the worst example of bona fide journalism your network has ever produced. I have a lot of questions about this piece, which gets repeated over and over.
1. When were the pictures of the young lady taken? Before the complaint about her attire, or more likely, after she'd told her story to somebody and had "adjusted" her clothing?
2. Who took those pictures?
3. What is the news value of this "story?"
4. Has it occurred to you that the news agencies are being used in an attempt to extort a great deal of money from SWA?
5. Has it occurred to any of you that her skirt might have been riding up as she walked and that there usually are children in airports?
6. Has it occurred to any of you that before the demur poses of the pictures you show the public, her tank top was actually down to the level of the "sweater" that was over it, which was pretty low?
7. Are you a news agency or a high school clique?

You should be embarrassed to air this piece of nonsense.

swa stated they were discreet when informing Kyla of her wardrobe?yea right.`Berating her at the jetway entrance/exit door of the a/c where all in ist class could hear and see the discussion tween Kyla and whats his name.
I bet the same people who are against this outfit probably work for Victoria Secret,Guess etc piecing these outfits together.
And those of you condemning this outfit,are probably tennis fans of Sharapova,Kournikova etc.Whats your opinion when those oufits are sweaty?How many of those fans are actually watching the match?liten up..
Those of you who think Kyla was underdressed, go back to the 70's and see what PSA and SWA stewardess were wearing for uniforms.
I hope Kyla burns SWA if they head for court. What a bunch of prudes

I and my family fly Southwest. A lot. And I will continue to fly them due to the low cost and reliable service. However, I think Southwest was way wrong here - and they compounded the error by not offering a written apology, which has lead to this national P.R. mess.

Bottom line: The Southwest employee who dragged her up to the front of the plane blew it, and then you blew it again by failing to apologize to her in your letter. You have no stated "dress code" and in today's society this PAYING CUSTOMER was not out of line. She obviously walked through the entire terminal and no police, TSA or any other airport authority stopped her for "public indecency". Dragging her up to the front of the plane "exposed" her outfit way more than if your employee had simply acted in a low-key, quiet manner to de-fuse whatever complaint existed right where Kyla (or the offended person) were sitting. In fact, on the return trip Kayla was COMPLIMENTED by one of YOUR EMPLOYEES !! How hypocritical can you get ?

Since when is it your job to be the arbitrary (remember...no dress code) "morality police" ?? If you are an alleged "family airline", maybe the drink coupons should be dropped too, so kids will not see customers getting drunk on your airplanes. You should have apologized to her and this would not be in the national spotlight. Nice job, Southwest "Manager of Customer Communication"

So where is Southwest's dress code when it comes to men? I've lost count of the number of times I've seen (and smelled) disgusting young twentysomething men stumbling on board at LAX or SAN wearing wrinkled t-shirts, shorts that haven't been laundered since spring break 2006, wearing flip-flops that show off their greasy, nasty feet. But the minute a clean and presentable woman in a short skirt gets on a plane, oh my god, it's time to break out the burqas.

The double standard is blatant and appalling, and it's obvious some of your front line customer service staff are in dire need of a talking-to -- or at least a thump on the head!

I think SA has screwed this up. If SA is indeed a family airline, then stop serving alcohol or unhealthy junk food. Hmmm...was is SA that asked a mother to get of the plane because of her what kid was saying? Maybe it's a trend for Stewards. The Air Police!
What this girl was wearing is typical for someone her age. This reminds me of the miniskirts back in the 60's. Back then, a lot of people used to say the same thing. Probably a lot of the complaints today wore the fashion of the day in the 60's (and 70's, 80's and 90'), especially the miniskirts, tube tops and bra less! Pastor Keith should back off until SA develops what I suspect will be coming soon, a dress code.
I do not like sitting next to a passenger who smells of smoke or perfume because they basically stink. I'm thinking maybe I can ask Keith & Co. to ask those passengers to go clean themselves up so their odour is not so offensive. Not. When I board a plane, I know to expect the unexpected, so I just go with the flow and just enjoy the flight. In just a couple of hours or so, it'll all be history anyway.
Let's worry about other, more important things, like did the mechanic really tighten all of the bolts, is the captain drunk, did my luggage make the same flight, or why does it take longer to taxi for take off than actually fly to our destination?

Southwest is NOT the only airline that has done this, but maybe the only airline to make the news. This happened to my daughter on a different airline at the age of 17, now she is 21. I admit she was in the wrong had I been there she would have not got on the plane dressed in a pair of cheer shorts a tank shirt and flip flops. The steward asked her to wrap a blanket around her bottom half and put on a pair of her cheer coaches shoes.

I commend Southwest, when flying you should dress business casual

Also - just some food for thought, for the commenters supporting the customer service rep's handling of the situation, praising them for having "morals" and "standards" -- those are very subjective things. I have morals and standards, but they're probably quite different from yours. I guarantee you won't be happy if I hold you to them, and I hope you keep in mind your rubber-stamp approval of such behavior when someone treats you unfairly.

Way to go Brian!!! Thank you for setting that blogger straight. These people(customers) will be back next week & the week after, & so on.....They are just all TALK!!!!! BTW, some of these people think this was a jealous female FA, but it was MALE FA named Keith.

There was no cleavage, no panties showing. The girl has nice looking legs, so what was wrong. I work in a grocery store in the bible belt and I see women dressed more provocative than that. The the attendant needs to be suspended and should write a public apology to the young lady. I can tell by the reading the blogs that you will lose a lot more customers than you gain. The people I saw write good things were your infrequent travelers, not business people. If i was to reprimand one of my customers for what they were wearing I'd get fired!!!!!!!
You are in a customer service business, so make sure you teach your employees to respect the people they serve and not publicly condemn them. I hope the young lady sues you for everything and wins. You do not deserve to be in business!!

You folks at Southwest must be out of your minds. Yes, her outfit was in poor taste, but unless you are prepared to kick every poor dreser off your planes, you better lighten up. I read the article by the NBC producer and, as a frequent flyer, I can assure you that unless you turned around in your seat and flew backwards and the young lady also happened to be sitting on the aisle, there's no way you would or could spend the flight looking up her skirt. As for the lady who left a comment on the NBC site asking if you would want your child to sit where she had been sitting.....Are you serious? I don't particularly want to sit where your child has been sitting. As far as I'm concerned, even on a good day airplane seats rank right up there with public restrooms when it comes to cleanliness.

So Southwest, get down off your high horse. Incidents like this coming from the airline that once boasted that it had brought "hostesses in hotpants" to our skies, are pure hypocrisy.

This incident gives you a new slogan for your airline:

Southwest: The Airline of the American Taliban.

You are neither arbiters of taste, nor morality. You are not a church. You are an airline.

What this incident has done is to emphasize the rift in American society that is caused by those who would return to America's puritanical roots and impose their beliefs and behaviors on everyone else, and those who actually live and espouse the founding values of this great nation as expressed in the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

We send our young men and women to die overseas so that people there can (supposedly) have some choice in the way they live and express their beliefs. There is no place here for those who would impose their own versions of morality on the rest of us. Your flight attendant is no better than those we are fighting in the middle east. For shame.

I will never attempt to purchase a ticket on your airline. I do not believe what she was wearing was inappropriate. I also do not see how you feel it is ok for you to humiliate or enforce your own moral code upon your paying customers. I feel she deserves her flight fee to be credited and a written public apoplogy should come from the top and from the attendant who approached her. If all you consentrate on is how your customers dress then I see in your future a failing fashion statement in the sky. Your days as a trend setter have died.

The steward or stewardess, oh excuse me........waitstaff, that thought it was their place to make a fashion police " arrest " probably need to get a life!!! I can't remember the last time I flew any airline where the " help " was actually any help. When did the airline industry and the FAA decide it was time to give addled brain women and men the authority to make our lives a living hell everytime we travel? I believe in everthing the TSA has had to do to make air travel safe for everyone, but this reaches the point of absurdity!!!!

Gang,

If we keep it up, we can break the comment record set by the assigned seating post!

Come on, ya'll! We need only just over a hundred more of these foaming-at-the-mouth, ill-informed posts sprinkled with liberal doses of "Taliban," "burqa," "Chrstianist," and "Nazi."

Go, crazies, go!

Terrible damage control, SW. Instead of using this blog as a way of apologizing and saying, "Yeah, we screwed up," you use it to try and defend your mistake by saying, "Hey! Look! Someone else agrees with us!"

I've always thought that this blog was a perfect example of what a corporate blog should be. This post shows me that it's just about corporate spin after all.

Hang in there Southwest. Families like mine are sick and tired of having
to be a witness to young people with no sense of decency and wanting to
show as much as they could get by with. We will always fly Southwest whenever possible. You company is wonderful, you have great employees who are willing to go above and beyone what is expected of them.
Thank you.

I am not educated enough about the law, corporate policy, ticket disclaimers, and the like, to comment on the legality of this episode. I will, however, say that I will never, ever, ever fly Southwest or patronize any company under the same corporate umbrella.

This was a blunder of epic proportions. When you think it becomes your responsibility (or even right, I'm not sure what you think and won't opine) to regulate attire, that is the day that I choose to fly elsewhere. I have flown almost 200,000 miles on your airline in less than two years. This may seem disproportionate (again, I don't know), because of the number of cities you fly between, but it just so happens that my business travel fits with your existing routes.

Now I will spend that money elsewhere. It might be wise for you to consider how many fans you have won with this decision. I belittle no one, and don't intend that here, but if the occasional mother of three or Christian that nearly advocated beheading balances out the loss in fairs you are suffering I would be very surprised. (You can do the math, but I think the loss of my business alone is easily more than 20 times all of the positive comments thus far.)

And to those who have commented in support of this action, think hard about what you are saying. While I disagree, I won't argue about how you feel about someone you consider scantily (or even inappropriately, you choose your adjective) dressed. The question is, should an airline prevent you from flying because of your choice of clothing? Who makes these decisions? What if someone doesn't like the way you are dressed? It's easy to sit back in your chair and think, "that will never happen, because I don't dress THAT way." But you're missing the point. How do you know that someone else won't feel that way? What if a zealous fundamentalist were making decisions that day? For you pious commenters, consider this. There are religions with great numbers in their ranks that disapprove of seeing legs below the knee or arms below the elbow. That means you can't wear LONG shorts. There are religions in which women are not allowed to show anything but eyes and hands. What if that person were on the judgement button the day you fly?

Don't you see what a slippery slope this is? You have to stop and think and realize that you may not like something... you may HATE something... but do you want judgements being made against you based enirely on whim, and even someone else's opinion of morality? I repeat, you may consider yourself to be the most moral person you know, but there is another in this world who disagrees.

I would not have felt compelled to continue writing, beyond helping Mr. Lusk gauge the impact of this incident by reporting the loss of my business, if I wasn't so surprised and disappointed that anyone at all feels that Southwest did the correct thing. This is not based on dissenting opinion, as Mr. Lusk was correct to point out in the reply to Kim Wells above. I would have been completely fine with posts that vehemently scorned the passenger's choice of dress, but recognized that arbitrary decisions like this are incorrect.

Southwest, please publish examples of what we are, and are not, allowed to wear on your airline. Maybe you will reach the morally outraged and cotton lobbyists and carve out a nice little niche for yourself. Perhaps we can then enjoy flights on other airlines with a reduced fear of sitting next to another passenger who feels it is correct to bar travel because they "don't like" something about a customer.

one article on page A2 of my morning paper had Osama Bin Laden telling us to "embrace Islam". Lower on the page, your employee covering a passenger with a blanket. Do you guys really need some sensitivity training in freedom? Are you really foreign to the concept of celebrating our bodies, not repressing them? How about a new saying for all you "Keiths" at Southwest airlines: Control Yourself (and leave me alone).

A can of worms has been opened by this FA and if SWA is truly looking out for shareholders they will reprimand this employee and move on. If they continue to support this FA's bad judgement, they are looking at a fiasco much larger than Jetblues passenger/hostage debacle last winter which cost JB 100's of millions of dollars. BAD WEATHER GOES AWAY BAD DRESSERS NEVER WILL!

Ms. Barret fasten your seat belt, the management position at SWA will be facing some turbulence.

What the hell happened? Did I wake up in another century or suddenly find myself living under a repressive regime like the Taliban? I cannot even wrap my brain around this weekÃ

Thank you, Southwest, for taking a stand.

I applaud the actions of the Southwest employee who handled the situation.

As a mother, I am extremely grateful that your company took this issue seriously.

I am also the wife of a pilot who would tell you that, besides the immodesty of the outfit, this young woman was not appropriately addressed for an emergency evac.

People do not understand that an airline's standards of customer conduct are for safety. This was not a safety issue, but it is a reminder that airlines can and should draw the line many times. While you must provide customer satisfaction, customer safety and that of the crew is more important.

Southwest will be my first choice the next time I fly.

I encourage you to "google" for all of the boycott Southwest Airlines efforts that are starting to spin up. I believe the head of your company should very loudly appologize for this, and sooner rather than later.

All the "women" applauding this airline for "morals" should be ashamed. Loss of freedom is a slippery slope and at the bottom it looks like a certain fudamentalist viewpoint that many young men and women from this country are fighting to protect us from. Whether you agree with that fight or not, the alternatives to freedom are horrible. I do not want a return to the America of the 1930s and believe me most you of you do not.

It is BEYOND ridiculous to compare this incident to what the Taliban does. There were no public floggings, and it wasn't her ANKLE that was showing, it was her CROTCH. Let's show a little intellectual rigor here and note the vast distinctions.

I say bravo, Southwest. I was your loyal customer before, but I really am now. This was a common sense decision, handled very well. I would expect that if a man boarded your plane with his genitals exposed that you would ask him to do the same thing. It's common decency, folks, not a matter of fashion or taste.

Thank-you, Southwest. I wish more people and businesses would stand up like this. I am tired of being confronted with the boobs and underwear - or worse- of total strangers. If she walked past a seated child in that skirt, she gave that kid an eyeful right up her dress. A child standing next to her could see more than he or she needs to as well. That's indecent exposure, as well as just plain garden variety selfishness.

If this girl was so 'embarrassed' to be asked to adjust her clothing, why did she appear on national television (where the same request had to be made?) in the same outfit to repeat the story.

As for freedom- we actually do not have the freedom to wear what we want. She can't go nude, she can't cut open the parts of her shirt that cover her breasts, and a man who got on the plane wearing a skirt that short would be arrested for indecent exposure. We do, however, have the right to say what we want, and that includes the freedom to point out that some people who ought to know better like to dress like prostitutes.

What next ? SW airlines is now the morality police? Sorry guys I won't fly you again back to Delta.

I see women dressed like this everyday on the streets and every hour on prime time TV. I think Southwest had no business criticizing that woman and that the Taliban lady that made the fuss should be fired or reassigned to a place where she doesn't deal with the public.

southwest ..
"straighten up and fly right"
apologize and make amends and quickly
from a longtime southwest fan
tracy packnett

It seems Brian is trying to justify his airlines' actions with his comment today about how the producers thought Kyla's skirt was maybe a bit short. Unless your a passenger lying on the floor with your head under your seat, I don't think it's going to matter too much. Oh well, I guess I know that everytime I fly Southwest, I can always get some serious advice from their Fashion Police. Hey! Maybe Southwest can host a new spinoff on the TLC channel, "What Not To Wear - Southwest Edition"!

Honestly who really decides who will become a flight attendent? Maybe they need to read the Company Mission Statement again. There is nothing in it about passengers dress code or code of conduct. However, there is a portion in it about customer satifaction with the airlines performance. Or maybe it's just that the fight attendant felt threatend by the passengers attire. Either way it's none of his business. Maybe some passengers get tired of gay men flight attendants or maybe that's pushing the issue a little too far. Never-the-less I will ensure never to book another flight at Sothwest Airlines and I will ensure that my employees flights will all be booked somewhere else also, reguardless of how much it cost. Actions not Words.

I just quit a job because I had to fly too much. Air travel $uck$ these days and SWAL has helped prove the point.

Post your dress code or shut up. I hope she takes you to the cleaners.

George

I am extremely disappointed with Southwest Airlines re the recent clothing issue. My family are regular Southwest customers, so consequently we have seen onboard many outfits much, much worse than this young woman's short skirt. Southwest just opened a new route to SFO which is attracting the nearby SFSU students. This should be interesting. . .

Silly differentiation. Pointless. There is no alternative view of what happened. The facts are not being disputed. There simply is no justification for this stupidity. If a person is offended by that which is not offensive, they can keep their mouths shut and grow up. Majority rules.

You have one sure way out of this debacle. Fire the whining pinhead who spoke to her, as well as the self-satisfied fool who took it upon him or herself to stick his or her ignorant, arrogant nose into someone else's business. If you don't fire them, you have given tacit approval to this astounding arrogance.

Donna - SRC - some of us have morals and steadfast beliefs which will not be wavered by a $20 airfare difference. There is in fact no circumstance where I will ever fly Southwest again - ever, unless a public apology and renumeration to Ms. Ebbert is forthcoming - as I expect it shortly will be.

If not - Ciao Southwest. Plenty of other choices - plenty.

Sarahlex, I've seen "Airline" (& recorded quite a few episodes); I remember seeing episodes where Customers have been pulled aside & talked to about body odor, & they freshened up before boarding. I also remember an episode where a man flying out of LA had to put on jeans under his skirt (yes, that's what he was wearing) because when he sat down, people could see under his skirt. I want to say also that I'm quite sure he wasn't wearing underwear. He wasn't happy about it, but did what he was asked & made the flight.

For all of the people who say you won't fly Southwest again, what would you do if a customer came into a restaurant you were eating in with no shirt or shoes & that person went through the same experience as Kyla E.? Would you say you wouldn't eat there again? I've seen on the windows at fast food restaurants (which I rarely eat at, but assume they still say this) No Shirt, No Shoes, No Service.

Southwest, you have my support & are really my favorite airline! :) You already know that, though.

Are you folks serious?

I'm done with Southwest Airlines until Ms. Ebbert receives the public appology she's due. Hell, I'm lying. I'm never coming back to an airline
where I might be tossed or publically embarassed at the whim of some whining little twit.

I am a frequent Southwest business flier and I have three words for you ... See ya' Southwest. It simply boggles my mind that Southwest Airlines will
toss a little sex into their advertising, promote drinking on your flights and
then can't find he fortitude to stand up to your own employee for his self-righteous out in left field misadventure.

You all need to get out into the world travel in. Then you might discover Ms. Ebberts attire was/is mild in comparison to that which we ALL see and ACCEPT in our everyday of twenty-first century existance.

How long are the PR folks going to wait before going public with Ms. Ebberts appology? Get a clue people ... you screwed up big time on this one.

Bye.

since you have establisned yourselves as guardians of what's tolerable on a flight, would you also expell some of the many fat ugly people who make flying so visually repellant

Southwest was wrong. The woman's skirt was short but nowhere near obscene. Do you want to have a dress code for your passengers? No problem, but state the parameters explicitly, post them on your web site, and put a warning on the tickets and reservation sites, so that people can choose whether to fly with you or not. It's a free country for you and for us. But if you don't have a dress code, you can't do what you did. You should have definitely let her board the flight, then, maybe, repeat maybe, have someone discreetly ask her if she would please cover her legs a bit, but that it would be entirely up to her.

Thanks for standing up for something, Southwest. I applaud you for continuing to stand by your employees' decision (which was the right one!)

I've sent a snail-mail letter, suffice to say that Southwest has crossed the boundaries of ownership right.

Hmm, anyone remember the hot pant uniform? "Coffee, tea, or Boot(y) view?"

I'm a moderate conservative, wife, mom, grandmother, DAR member, college student, ethicist. The young woman looked fine and while the TV audience may have seen a flash dance, an airline passenger would have to do some fancy contortions for the same flash.

Family airline? Which family? Not ours.

Extorted the young woman with watch a movie or don't fly? Perhaps Homeland Security should be notified for possible ties to terrorist fundamentalist religious groups.

And no, our family will not fly Southwest again unless and until a full public apology is made in major newspapers and television news conference. When you done wrong, you need to admit it, take responsibility for your actions.

Yes, I'm feeling upset and outraged at the paternalistic, authoritarian, just plain mean-spirited action by Southwest.

Very sincerely, Cherri Brown

I can't believe I just read all 500+ posts here. But of all the best one by far was this one. Seriously, when I read the last line where she identified herself as a "ritired" teacher I laughed so hard coffee came out of my nose... enjoy!!!!!!!

Thank God for the employees and management of Southwest Airlines who took a stand against immodest, indecent, immoral dress. It is time businesses stop such lewd apparel in public places. If I as a paying passenger, have to tolerate such dress with my children along, I pray another airline will step forward and demand decent dress. If I wanted my children to be exposed to her harlot dress, I would take them to Hooters. I nor my husband have ever been, nor will we ever go there because of that very thing. It is not o.K. to expose such immodesty to Christians who consider it an abomination. God will bless South West for doing the right thing. I hate to think of all the men who committed adultery who looked upon her that day and on the TV. She will have to give an account to God for it. I will continue to fly South West and reccomend to every one I know to fly it. It takes courage to stand for what is right. We would honor God more if we would get back to decency in public places. Shame on that girl

Posted by: Mrs. Linda Warren, ritired school teacher | September 7, 2007 at 2:56 pm

Honestly, some of the comments are what appall me! If a man were to give everyone a "crotch shot" as this girl did, he'd be arrested and have to register as a sex offender!
And come ON with the taliban crap. Nobody clubbed her for uncovering her face! And we all know that her outfit had been adjusted by the time she got to the Today show-and was still inappropriate!
Thank you, Southwest, for making this girl cover up!

I still can't believe as many people support your position as I have seen on your blog.
As far as I can see the only fair thing to do is to issue a very public appology to the young lady, suppend your ignorant employee for a month and try to buy off her law suite with lifetime free flights on SWA.
Very bad move.

I highly doubt that all of these people who have said they will never fly SWA again will actually stick with their spouting. This young woman is having an absolute hay day with all the attention and now a possible law suit?? She's thrilled!! I thought that her outfit was tasteless. Just because "all 23 year olds dress like that" doesn't make it right. Teaching modesty to our children today is a daunting task. I support what SWA asked of the woman.

You lost a customer in me for sure. I am appalled at such behavior and certainly will not support it by buying a ticket on your airline. Perhaps "American Airlines" can live up to their name. You call your self a family airline. I shall not subject my family to your censorship. I teach my kids about the constitution. I am also curious, when the girl was asked to get off the place, did anyone offer her her money back? I bet not.

I am astounded and disgusted. Only a clear public apology to Kyla Ebbert will make me change my mind about the respectability of your airline. Until then, I am not going to fly on your planes.

You guys just lost a customer

Southwest airlines isnÃ

Southwest...Thank you for putting the customer first. What others are failing to realize is that you have done your job of providing customer service to your customers. Obviously, there were complaints and you guys handled them appropriately for the majority's comfort and now you are taking the punches.

There is a time and a place for her attire and on a plane isn't one of them. At first I thought it was outrageous, but then I discovered that the news wasn't reporting her attire correctly. They were showing after pictures, even with her skirt pulled down, I saw more of her then anyone should. If my feelings about that make me a prude, so be it.

It's funny how she has the "right" to show her cooter, but I don't have the right to not want to see it. Sure, people say look away...but that would be after the fact, after all I'd have to see it to know to look away. Why are her rights more important than mine?

Lastly, c'mon--comparing some girl to muslim women... not even close. You can drink the Kool-aid if you want to...but really...it's a stretch.

She still got her way...what's the problem? She's seeing $$$ now?

Don't pay her a cent and don't apologize. You have nothing to apologize for. She's too old to have mommy taking care of her business. Actions= consequences. They teach that in preschool.

Dear Mark,

You're a retard - You're equating a girl who crotch flashed the live TV audience of The Today Show with the Taliban? Hyperbole much, or are you just stupid?

GO SOUTHWEST! Even though "that is how everyone dresses" ---it doesn't make it right. Too bad some passangers doesn't have enough self respect or commom sense to police themselves! They still run buses from California to Arizona, I think you can wear whatever you want on a bus.

Shame on Southwest...since when does an airlin dictate what one wears. The girl had all he vitals covered and if she was ofending someone that person should have been told NOT TO LOOK..just like if a certain TV show offends you--dont watch it., dont listen to that offensive radio--simple!!!
If that was my child I would be helping hr find an attorney. I for one will NEVER fly Southwest when given an option.... I think an apology and free air fare for life would have been approriate..how are your employees lecture a 23 yr old woman about her attire...shame on your company...

I agree w/air line. You do not have a right to wear what ever you want, where ever you want.Some have stated "You should live & express youself the way you want", so should someone be allowed to come in topless or wearing only body paint. They do not show R rated movies if flight because there are familyies w/children on board. I don"t want me children having to see some womans crouch every time they walk down isle to use rest room. Bottom line,not dressing like a pole dancer for a plane flight is a sign of maturity & common curtisty

I hope you go out of business , your airline disgusts me and youll never even see a mirage of my business again! maybe you should move your business to the middle east where the women are used to this type of treatment and wear full bodied attire, sounds like your perfect customer base

LOOKS LIKE YOUR JACKASS ATTITUDE ABOUT WHAT YOU DID TO THAT POOR YOUNG LADY WILL BE LOSING YOU A HELL OF ALOT OF CUSTOMERS AND YOU SURE AS HECK DESERVE IT!! I AND THE COMPANY I WORK FOR ARE ARRANGING A BOYCOTT OF YOUR SEXIST AIRLINE AND I HOPE AND PRAY THAT OTHERS DO THE SAME. YOU PEOPLE HAVE SOME NERVE, EMBARRASSING THAT YOUNG WOMAN AND THEN NOT EVEN A THOUGHT OF SAYING YOU WERE WRONG & SORRY. MOTHERS & WOMEN EVERYWHERE SHOULD BE OUTRAGED AT THE TREATMENT THAT SHE WAS GIVIN ALL PASSENGERS THAT HAVE TKTS ON SW IF THEY ARE NON REFUNDABLE SHOULD DRESS IN THE SKIMPEST OUTFITS YOU CAN FIND BE YOU LARGE, SMALL OR INBETWEEN !! LETS SEE IF THEY ARE WILLING TO GIVE THAT SAME TREATMENT TO ALL AND RISK LOSING MILLIONS. TO THOSE VERY LUCKY PASSANGERS THAT HAVE THE REFUNDABLE TURN THEM IN AND GET YOUR MONEY BACK FROM A SEXIST& HEARTLESS AIRLINE. TO EVERYONE ELSE BOYCOTT SW !! IAM SENDING A COPY OF THIS BLOG TO OTHER SITES, I CAN ALMOST PROMISE THAT IT WONT BE HERE TOMORROW, SW WILL MOST LIKELY DELETE IT, IM DOING THAT SO PEOPLE CAN COME HERE TO SEE IF IM RIGHT!!! SW THIS WILL NOT GET BETTER, WE WILL NOT FORGET THIS OR LET IT BE SWEPT AWAY YOU NEED TO DO MORE THEN RIGHT BY THAT YOUNG WOMAN AND PUNISH PUBLICLY THE FA THAT HAD HIS OR HER STUPID HAT ON THAT DAY. A PUBLIC APOLOGY TO THE YOUNG WOMAN AND TO ALL WOMEN FOR YOUR AIRLINES VERY HORRIBLE SEXIST BEHAVIOR IS REQUIRED BY BOTH SW AND THE FA !! WOMEN , YOUNG OLD AND INBETWEEN SHOULD ALWAYS, ALWAYS REMEMBER THIS. WHAT IS SW GOING BACK TO THE DAY WHEN WOMEN WERE CONSIDERED SECOND CLASS CITIZENS, TO BE TOLD WHAT THEY CAN AND CANNOT WEAR, WHAT THEY CAN OR CANNOT DO.? WE ALL NEED TO STAND UP AND TELL SW THAT WOMEN WILL NOT STAND FOR THAT KIND OF ABUSE, AND MAKE THOSE THAT DO IT SUFFER FOR THEIR ACTIONS AND INACTIONS. WOMEN NEED TO MAKE A STAND RIGHT HERE AND NOW BOYCOTT SW TIL THEY DO THE RIGHT THING !!!!

Folks! This lady was NEVER kicked off the plane! Just told to raise her top, lower her skirt. Get the story straight first before you jump in! I believe that there is WAY more to this story that is being told, as I hear some rumors through the grapevine........ SWA is a place of business and they do have the right to boarding denial if they think it's in the best interest of the company. I've seen people with "F you" t-shirts being told to either cover it up or not fly.

According to the interview, the woman was allowed to fly after she adjusted the outfit to be less revealing than it was initially. I'm curious if the state of the outfit in the interview, the one so many found acceptable despite the fact that she couldn't help flashing the audience and Matt Lauer himself looked away when she prepared to stand up, was how the outfit looked before or after the employee asked her to cover up?

We do have laws in this country about indecent exposure, and if exposing your crotch isn't indecent I'd like to know what is. I day Kudos.

Simply outrages, I will definitely never fly with Southwest again.
I've seen a lot worse in many of your flight a no-one has ever complained.

Your reputation has gone down immensively.

It seems the embarassment comes by the fact she is telling her story on national television. I agree with the commenter that mentioned it was very unlikely very many people heard and if she had dealt with it and moved on, no one would ever know it happened.

Sharon Bain......you asked very pertinant questions. In the interviews and pictures, her shirt is so obviously "non revealing" that one is sure that can't be how she was wearing it on the flight. Southwest has always been very accomodating to all passengers. The other passengers on the flight have rights too, and if any ONE of them was offended by this girls appearance, then the attendant was required to act on it. And YES, if a complaint is made about someone's odor, that passenger is also contacted by an attendant, and either changed seating or asked to take the next flight, after cleaning up (frequently at Southwest expense). I am a frequent flyer of Southwest Airlines, and have seen many questionable passengers. Some of these had complaints made about them and were removed from the flight, and others were not. As passengers, we have the right to make our opinions known, and if they are valid, then action is taken.

Kyra is a very attractive girl, and she is gaining world wide recognition. I am sure this incident is being exploited not just for the possible law suit (why did it take 2 months?), but possibly for a carreer? Do you think it possible that television is paying attention, and she will be seen in other venues?

Come on people, Southwest acted responsibly. Had the attendant chose to ignore the complaining passenger, and the story was told, you would be fighting for the other side. Many of you bloggers just like to side with the "little guy" against big industry. Grow up. With life comes responsibility, and Southwest lived up to theirs.

Please advise this customer as to what OTHER airline flies from Nashville, TN
to Fort Lauderdale, FL

Wait a minute, this incident took place on her trip to Tucson. If she was that upset, you'd think she would have cancelled her flight back to San Diego on Southwest, especially wearing the same skimmpy outfit that caused her embarrassment in the first place. She knowingly took a second chance at embarrassment to herself.

I think this little girl can't handle life in a grown-up, responsible world.

Le mie piÃ

Southwest Airlines did the right thing. I applaud their professionalism. We can assume that the temperature in the airplane and the airport did not necessitate a passenger becoming nearly naked. It is obvious that the woman was using sexual suggestion as a means of getting attention. Sex or the visual suggestion of sex is inappropriate in public. She should have been arrested and prosecuted for indecent exposure. Plain and simple. Again, Southwest Airlines did exactly what I would expect them to do.

Southwest Airlines: Please remove the "church-lady" from flights containing anyone else but men. You do not have a dress code policy. You embarrassed your customer! That's an absolute no-no in an industry that relies on customer serice!
Get a grip - or get out of the airline business.

Congratulations for taking a standing up for those of us who believe that modesty is still a virtue. I fully realize that there are many women who believe that they have a divine right to flaunt as much of their nakedness as possible. But, their shamelessness is in essence an attempt to demand attention for themselves at the expense of others. It reveals both a personal insecurity and a social arrogance that deserves to be both rebuked and restrained. Thank you Southwest Airlines for your willingness to draw a line somewhere. The feelings of the modest are just at important as those of hussies and I thank you for showing us consideration in this circumstance. Please do it again.

i think sw did right, im tired of all the skin....everywhere you turn.....i dont need to catch a glimpse of her undies....or wish to sit where she sat....

i think sw just became way more family friendly

I applaud Southwest for doing the right thing here. I don't think it's easy asking a customer to dress more appropriately, but it's the right thing to do. Children don't need to be exposed to women dressed like hookers- there's enough of this on television. She knows she will attract attention dressing like this and that's what she wanted. Otherwise, why would she dress like this? If she wore shorts, there would not have been any complaints. I think some of the people complaining here probably never flew Southwest before and probably never planned on doing so. I will continue to fly Southwest as long as they continue to take stands such as this.

Thank you, Southwest, for having the common sense that is badly needed. As a mother of 3 boys, I appreciate your actions, and will fly SWA every time I get the chance.

Like I needed another reason NOT to fly Southwest. I hate Southwest and its cattle-call boarding process. I am always willing to pay more money just so I don't have to fly your crummy airline. And now this. What is so obsurb about all of this is that she flew back to San Diego in the same outfit and nothing happened. Apparently one of the flight attendants even complimented her.

I am offended by passengers with poor hygiene or people who think it's okay to take off their stinky shoes than what this young lady wore. Not only does Southwest need to make a public apology by top level executives on national television, but "Keith" should be reprimended and fired for how he handled the situation. Just another example that Southwest suck.

Way to go Southwest! You have a right to run your private business the way you see fit. Thanks for requiring a bit of common decency in this situation. If anyone should be embarrased in this situation it's that poor girl's "mother". She should have taught her to dress modestly and not be calling the airline to complain. Goodness! Anyway, don't most businesses "reserve the right to refuse service to anyone"? What about "No shirt, no shoes, no service"? I don't see a problem with those kind of rules and I don't see a problem with you (Southwest) making a judgement call about a problem brought to your attention. So there's no particular dress code. So there's no precedent for your decision. Policies and precedents begin somewhere. Why not here? Why not with you? Hold your heads up high. You made a good decision.

I am stationed on the USS NIMITZ and right now we are deployed overseas. The reason for this e-mail is because I wanted to talk to you about Southwest Airlines. I have been reading all of the negative press about them in regards to that young lady who was forced to change because of her clothes. If you go to blogsouthwest.com you can read all of the negative comments about the situation. I wanted to take the time to share what Southwest Airlines has done for me. Last summer I missed by connecting flight back to San Diego. I was told by the airline that I would make my connecting flight only to miss it. No big deal. I wrote in and explained the situation. I received a letter from their President thanking me for my service to our country. She went out of her way when she really didnÃ

I say kudos to SW. If a man was flashing his man bits he would be arrested for indecent exposure. Why isn't it the same for a woman!

I don't know about you, but I have no desire to see other people's UNDERWEAR. It's crude, tasteless, and I respect Southwest Airlines as a company asking her to cover up her crotch for the other passengers. Why do people think it's okay to dress like this, but heaven forbid a woman breastfeed in public? Because obviously, sex is okay but nature is disgusting.

Did you see her on the Today show? Did you see her underwear that they had to blur out when she sat down? Good grief, people!

Okay...so even the Today Show thought her outfit was so inappropriate that they blurred her crotch out when she sat down - and even cut the shot altogether when they aired the story again.

I guess Southwest will have to incorporate new classes for their employees on how to handle stupid people who have no taste - and no self respect. Because Miss Kyla is not the only one out there with that problem!

Shame on Kyla and her mom for trying to profit over their lack of common sense and courtesy!!!

And, what kind of doc appt was she flying to in Tucson?????

This girl clearly has Hooters for brains.

SW I personally would appreciate a dress code when flying. Please ban all metal belt buckles, heavy metal jewelery, and lace up boots. These things slow down the lines at security. After all air travel is all about speed and efficiency! I would have felt very safe flying next to this girl, she's certainly not hiding a knife, gun, nail file or bomb makings in that outfit!

Not everyone is against you SW, keep doing what your doing. :0) When my son goes to college we will be using you a lot!!

It is not the job of corporations to police their clients who's only crime is their attire. She wasn't naked. Is your organization run by prudes? You have created a real sense of BIG BROTHER that most people will find alarming. I will certainly think twice about using SOUTHWEST in the future.

There is a difference between freedom of speech and indecent exposure. This girl was guilty of the latter. When she reached up to put her bags in the overhead compartment....do you think that the way she dressed was appropriate? And anyone who lets their daughter dress like that and thinks they are being modest, is wrong. Modesty and femininity are lost in today's culture, but you can find decent clothing for young girls.

I am PROUD of the way Southwest handled this.

Well I am "patently" offended by the wearing of turbins and burkas on an airplane post 9-11 and my offense is almost certainly shared, right or wrong, by the majority of Americans flying even today. Frankly most Americans tolerate it while they silently grit their teeth. Personally I am offended by offended people in general. Keep your judgmental bias to yourself and shut up. We all need to become rapidly intolerant of the intolerant minority and take our country back from the overly opinionated with big mouths. Tolerance is a multi-lane highway. It goes all ways. Southwest needs to feel the pain from this embarrassment to the silent and reasonable of us out there. We are the majority.

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