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A Different Perspective

A lot of you are familiar with the Southwest Airlines Customer who was asked to cover up her outfit, and there has been a lot of attention devoted to this subject.  In fact, the Customer was on the Today Show this morning.  You might be interested in the perspective of one of the show's producers, Dan Fleschner.

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regardless of what we may think of this girls outfit southwest airlines DOES NOT HAVE A DRESS CODE and therefore the flight attendent has no right to enforce one. I for one will remember this the next time I make travel plans.

Let me be sure I understand the facts: Before you can board, you've got to go through a machine that lets people see you naked, but a passenger's ensemble was too revealing?
Better we should all fly naked. That way you can see that we're not armed.

This is what Southwest should have used as their public statement. How about this Southwest? "We here at Southwest are committed to ensuring that all passengers are comfortable flying with us. However, in this capacity it is very difficult to keep everyone happy. In our effort to address a concern raised by one of our passengers, we did the best we could to address the issue fairly. We sincerely apologize for any embarrassment our personnel might have caused in the handling of this issue and intend to review our policies to further assist our personnel in making fair decisions based upon widely accepted standards and not solely on the opinion of a single passenger." Recommendation - hire better public relations people This statement might have saved you in the Civil suit but now you are vulnerable.

HOORAY for Southwest! This woman should keep this dress style at Hooters or on San Diego campus. If I'm going to be a captive audience, I want to be able to accept it or not. Of course the guys will say I hope she sits next to me. Or, the young woman's peers would glow in the attention. I'm glad that Southwest is considering ALL their passengers. Now and again the public needs a good shake to wake up to some degree of decency.

If you had a dress code posted, it would be one thing, but the girl was not wearing anything illegal - just distasteful (and that is just this viewer's opinion).

How can you justify the enforcement of a standard that was not previously posted and purely subjective?

I thought you were an airline, not the fashion police. You are as bad as the airline that booted off the mother who was breastfeeding. Just one more reason I don't fly anymore.

Too bad no one took a "before" picture -- before the adjustment. All these comments are based on looking at the "after", which of course was not the issue. If there is some sort of hearing, she should be asked to wear the identical clothing and then place the clothes as they were when they originally offended the customer. The skirt is not long enough to be a "skirt" if worn at the normal placement on the body. It's only a YOKE. Yes, it's a free country, and we're entitled to be whatever, however, it's also a good thing to use some common sense and consider the feelings of others out there. Being thoughtful and considerate of each other is key to ending wars -- ALL of them.

I am certain a Customer from that flight brought her attire to the attention of the ground crew that day. It is not uncommon to ask a Customer to change shirts when the shirt says something offensive. If an outfit or shirt draw that much attention then it is the responsiblity of the employee to resolve it. That nut got on the flight looking like a tramp and I assure you if she were interviewing for a nursing home job she would have covered up. My question is did she get the Hooters job? If so I will dine elsewhere.

I was very disappointed to read about SouthwestÃ

Exactly when did it become a crime to wear a miniskirt when flying?? and exactly what "Concerns" did someone have? Are we now gulity before anything bad actually happens? The employee who lectured the young lady was wayyyyyyyyyyy out of line!!!!! In my book that is HARRASSMENT!!!! and LAWSUIT and BIG $$$$ for trhe young lady. I hope ALL women ask their husbands, boyfriends , dads, sons etc to boycott your airline. It would be great !!!! I will tell my family or friends to never fly with you because of this particular incident. I will also ask my Congressman to see if you are getting any Federal monies. If so, I think that should stop as well. If you can't serve all taxpayers, no tax dollars for you. If I were USAIR I would be offering everyone who has a ticket with you a free exchange ticket with them - called the NO HASSLE PROMOTION. You want to serve the morally correct, have at it. Hope it brings you to bankruptcy! Most of us who fly worry about the big picture like will the landing gear come down! not who is wearing shorts or miniskirts!! And to those of you who are reading this and agree that you don't want someone else to impose their convictions on you, you can make a difference CHOOSE NOT TO FLY Southwest! No matter how they sugar coat it , this is still HARRASSMENT of women !

I applaud SWA for standing up for a little modesty and taste. When the girl was on the Today show and stood to show her outfit, she had to adjust it by pulling on her skirt then. I can only imagine how short it must have been before she was asked to adjust it. SWA has the right to make whatever regulations they want. If I were another passenger on that flight, I would be grateful to not have to look at another person's body parts that should be covered. And if I were the next passenger to sit in her seat, I would wish she had been sitting on that blanket rather than covering up with it.

THANK YOU SOUTHWEST AIRLINES I am so tired of see to much of a persons body under garments in public. As for Kayla and her mother they are part of the immoral movement that is destroying the USA. If you must dress that way please stay off the planes.

Kudos to SW! As their Contract of Carriage states,
"Carrier may refuse to transport or remove from the aircraft at any point any passenger in the following categories as may be necessary for the comfort or safety of such passenger or other passengers: (1) Persons whose conduct is or has been known to be disorderly, abusive, offensive, threatening, intimidating, or violent, or whose clothing is lewd, obscene, or patently offensive;"

If someone complained (and I imagine more than 1 person complained for Keith to talk to her about it) then Keith was following the Contract. When you fly SW you are agreeing to this Contract whether you realize it or not.

I must comment, because in a written media article, the girl in question said that she "adjusted her top, so that less of her stomach showed" before getting back on the plane. Go back and take a look at her skirt- it's all of about 6 to 8 inches, top to bottom, barely enough to cover her necessary parts, and then when you realize that she also had her t-shirt hiked up nearly to her sweater- that's about a foot or so of naked torso, all out there for the world to see. come on people!!! Is this really okay with everybody??? Is modesty really so outmoded that there are no standards at all? For her to go onto national TV, as she did, with her outfit "altered" from the way it was when the flight attendant initially spoke with her is outright deception. If she's not embarrassed of her apparel, she should be ashamed for her lying.

America is the land of the free. I am free to travel without being sexually assaulted by a man in a trenchcoat or a woman in a skirt that is too short to cover what should be legally covered in public. Thank you Southwest for protecting my rights!

Thanks to all of you who have posted thoughtful comments on all sides. To those of you talking about the Taliban, etc, I hope you have shared your anger with NBC who felt it necessary to cover up the same outfit--without permission. It boggles the mind to equate how putting restrictions on an outfit unsuitable for network television equates with the Taliban.

The last I heard this was still a free country. Was she doing anything illegal? No. So the actions of Southwest were way out of line.

As for perspectives like the one of the "Mother with 3 children" - do you ever take your children to the beach? If so what do you do about the many bikinis that are skimpier than most panties.

I went to a little work to find a website where this was handled appropriately and hats off to Southwest for dealing with this in a public forum style.

However, I'm siding with the Airlines.....my personal feeling is that the airlines are telling this young woman what her mother should have told her when she was 12 or 13.....yep, she's dressing like others her age, which is a tragic statement about how some feel it is OK to show up in public. Call me old-fashioned and conservative, but there's a line of good taste, our society has plunged over it and people are afraid to say "that's inappropriate". In fact,I've known college girls who make a distinction between "real clothes" and "slut clothes".....I just hope she wasn't going to a job interview!

Mr. Lusk's latest comment is quite revealing. As a member of management, he sets the tone for employee-to-customer communications, and that tone appears to be defensive and antagonistic. So the next time any of you Southwest diehard fans encounter a customer service rep at this airline more interested in sassing back than actually helping, just remember that the attitude has management's stamp of approval.

Brian Lusk,
You, as the Manager of Communications for SWA, continue to amaze me. Your attitude shows you are a self righteous individual who just doesn't give a damn about the general public's opinion. Remember, the people who have written here are or could be future customers. If you did not want to hear what the people said, you should not have even opened it up for discussion. Your last comment at 2:45 pm on September 9, 2007, proves you have zero professionalism. NBC and TODAY and whether people who posted an entry on this blog is none of your business and since they are not party to the original issue, leave them out of your discussions. If people feel like they want to exercise their right to complain to NBC, they will. And they will do so not to the PR department but to the Chairman and CEO of GE. jeff Immelt does take the time to listen to people's complaints. Where is Gary Kelly on this issue? Please do not deflect SWA's responsibility and your lack of professionalism to NBC. SWA has created the problem. I hope your boss, Garry Kelly, hears from the people about your behavior. I now can see where SWA gets it's ill mannered communications program.

Rod posted: "Silly differentiation. Pointless. There is no alternative view of what happened. The facts are not being disputed."

Wrong. The facts ARE being disputed.

If I believed her version of the story to be complete and correct, I'd agree that Southwest made a mistake. But I don't believe her version. Not for a minute.

A person who's angling to meet Hugh Hefner and has an obvious financial interest in exaggerating her story has far less credibility with me than an airline employee who sees ultra-casual dress many times per day and who has no axe to grind. If she was dressed exactly as she appeared on TV, I doubt anyone would have said anything.

There must have been something very unusual about this situation. Maybe she accidentally flashed her bottom to another passenger? Nobody here knows except Southwest, and for reasons I can't understand they are not telling.

Why are people so quick to believe the worst about Southwest and so willing to believe a customer whose financial interests are served by maligning Southwest? The "I'll never fly Southwest again" crowd is far too credulous, in my opinion. Not everything you see on TV is true. I'm betting that the full story will look very different from what those people are currently assuming to be proven facts.

As one example of facts in dispute: Nobody has asserted as a fact that she was wearing underwear or that she was not, or that it was regular underwear or a thong style that leaves the bottom exposed. A few people here might say that anyone should be able to board a flight with her buttocks showing, wearing a bikini or whatever, but I guarantee that I'd never be allowed to do so with MY buttocks exposed. Trust me, that's a sight you wouldn't want to see.

This issue represents a clash of cultures. There is the small toen culture of mutual respect for one another which is rapidly eroding in this country. Just as rapidly, the self-obsessed culture grows. Southwest at one time, prescribed revealing uniforms for their flight attendants. This was also an age where sexual discrimitation and females were exploited for being female. While the culture has grown more self-obsessed and individualistic, the corporate culture including Southwest evolved to become more conservative.

On a number of occaisions I have asked people to not smoke or coduct their personal cellualr telephone conversdations near me because I find it rude and an invasion of space. Most of these individuals are put off. Nonetheless, I am entitled to my peace of mind just as much as person committing the violation.

It appears to me that the SWA flight attendant felt the same. He or she was most likely acting in the best interest of a number of people who expressed offense at the outfit.

Self-expression is appropriate and justified. However, revealing attire when worn in an inappropriate setting is justification for question.

This young woman should NOT have been wearing such attire on the airplane, in my opinion. As with every airline, there is a contract of carriage that limits your rights in exchange for air travel. I would imagine that these terms and conditions are in writing and could have been reviewed by the young woman prior to air travel.

However, the median educational level of a waitress at Hooters usually precludes comprehension of the material in the aforementioned contract.

I applaud Southwest for standing up for the common good versus the rights of individuals.

Brian,

Keep it up you'll find yourself working for JB soon, hopefully. The shareholders are about to send a message.......... stay tuned!

Thanks,
Steve

Look, so a flight attendant made a judgement call that may or may not have been the right one. People need to be able to do their jobs, and make decisions. Empowerment is so very important, but people will make decisions that not everyone agrees about. Look at how poorly run most of the airline industry is. For those of you who say you'll never fly Southwest again... I give you two flights on another airline, you'll be back...

Thank you for taking a stand on dressing more modestly! I truly appreciate what you did in this incident and how you handled it.
Come on America ~ let's take a stand for more modest dress in our country!!!

I cannot believe that Southwest allowed an employee to cause a young AMERICAN citizen such blatant humiliation, then goes so far as to not even apologize! I hope she sues the HOTPANTS off of you! I implore anyone who decides to support this airline in the future by purchasing a ticket on one of their flights, to board the plane wearing skimpy little hot pants like the ones their own flight attendants used to wear in order to get more business........I also suggest that a large group of breastfeeding mothers board the plane, and start nursing their babies publically..............the lawsuits that follow after your own humiliation could potentially pay for your sweet little babie's college tuitions! In my opinion, southwest airlines has acted in an incredibly rude, and hypocritcal manner, and should issue a HUGE cash settlement as well as a public apology to this young lady, her family, and all who were offended by their actions.

What's the big deal...Some tramp wore a skimpy outfit on a plane. This is so trivial that the whole country shouldn't have even found out about it in the first place! Maybe the outfit was in bad taste, maybe not. It depends on the observer. But there are non-written dress codes at many businesses. (Shirt and tie at a fancy restaurant, collared shirt at the golf course.) I myself have been turned away from the golf course because I forgot to wear a collared shirt. Did I complain-No. Did I sue-No. I went home and got changed. If this bimbo was so embarrassed about the attention she got on the plane, then she wouldn't go on national TV wearing the same darn outfit. It's just a ploy to get some money out of the already hurting airline industry. If I was the airline, I wouldn't give this gold digger her more than a brief apology and $500 for her time, trouble, and total damages. She already walks around half naked at Hooters, so she must be used to the attention. If I was on a jury, I would feel guilty giving her practically any cash, knowing that I was taking jobs away from hard working people to pay for her award. Give me a break! I am so sick and tired of frivolous lawsuits. I thought that crap went out with the 1990Ã

thank you southwest. i used to travel a lot and it was comical to see what we called the "airport tramps" . Everyone else is dressed in normal clothes, usually comfortable clothing, shorts, jeans, or some in business clothing for trips. Then there's the women who just need a little more attention than others, so they walk around half dressed and it is ridiculous. Poor girls don't have enough confidence in themselves that they have to go looking for it on their flight lol. Kudos to Southwest for stepping up & taking a stand. I wish more companies would do the same. As for her being embarrassed as she said, she should have been more embarrassed hours earlier leaving her house looking like a tramp

In reading previous comments, for the MOST part I see that men have no problem with it (shocking !!! ) but women who are tired of this type of thing agree with the stand that Southwest took

Thank you for not apologizing. Thank you for taking the responsibility for your own business and not allowing people to board your planes less than half dressed. SW has the right to refuse service. Its like someone coming into your home/store with their crack showing. You can ask them to leave. If you do, you'll need to give them their money back (which is just fine if you don't want them there). Thank you for taking a stand.

I second the other comments regarding the fact that it was her "CROTCH" showing now something like a wrist, calf or even belly button.

And I agree with this statement: "I say bravo, Southwest. I was your loyal customer before, but I really am now. This was a common sense decision, handled very well. I would expect that if a man boarded your plane with his genitals exposed that you would ask him to do the same thing. ItÃ

You pulled my first blog, probably because I mentioned another blogger in a desparaging way (the blogger couldn't spell). And perhaps because I cited some upper management at Southwest.
But here's the gist of my remarks, without the personal note:

Just a note to let you know I am spearheading a boycott of Southwest Airlines. If you have become the fashion police of the skies, I think I and all of my acquaintances can find another airline.

I'm taking this action because of the disgraceful way you embarrassed and humiliated Ms. Kyla Ebbert

Thanks for doing the appropriate thing Southwest. In today's culture the if it feels good to me mentality often overrides the sensibilities of others who try to instill with morals. Several points to be made:
- It's public transportation on a budget. For all those business people that said, no more business from me? I doubt you're a business person, and to equate proper attire to the girl's too skimpy outfit deems you more of a closet ogler than a professional. If you're willing to go pay more money from other airlines, then I would also question your business acumen.
- Those who say what would you do about all the visions of girls on the beach in skimpier clothing? I'd do what I do now, I won't take my kids there. There. Problem solved. You know what? It was my choice.
- The problem with comparing this to IRAQ or the Taliban or ISLAM is that those countries BEAT or IMPRISON people. That's not the same as requesting someone wear appropriate attire and board another flight, or cover up with a blanket.
- In this age of Paris Hilton, and Britney Spears flashing we apparently have lost our moral compass, and rather than be appalled, many are looking for the next titillating thing. Go find it elsewhere. Not on an airline.

In the end, all of the single college males, and college sorority girls that are posting offense to this, don't forget that It's extremely profitable to cater to families. My family of 5 has to buy 10 tickets for a round trip flight. You and you're boyfriend or girlfriend have to buy 4. That's a differential of 6 extra tickets that I'm paying for.

It's not just moral sense, it's good business sense.

I just wanted to applaud Southwest for responding to customer complaints by upholding their Contract of Carriage. They did not act illegally by censoring this girl, but responsibly, by taking action in light of complaints by other paying customers. I sure hope that this girl wins no money in court based on media hype or "discrimination" against someone who is free to dress the way they want. I have read hundreds of comments on multiple sites about this issue and people keep drawing comparisons of bikinis at beaches showing more skin or that people in favor of modest dress want women to wear burkas. That is ridiculous! It is not out of line to expect someone to not flash their panties when they sit down and cross their legs (she didn't make her case well on national television when she did just that!). Thanks Southwest for staying family friendly and standing behind your policy about lewd attire!

The following text is from the Corporate Governance section of the Investor Relation portion of the Southwest website:

Corporate Governance Issues
In the wake of well-publicized corporate scandals, the Securities and Exchange Commission and the New York Stock Exchange have issued multiple new regulations, requiring the implementation of policies and procedures in the corporate governance area.

Since beginning business in 1971, Southwest has thrived on a Culture which encourages an entrepreneurial SPIRIT in its Employees, and has emphasized personal responsibility, initiative, and the use of independent, good judgment. The Golden Rule is one of our core values, and we have had a Ã

To everyone out there whining about this being a free country and the Bill of Rights- you are right, it is a free country and Southwest is a business, not a government institution. They have the right to refuse service. That's part of being a business in a free country. No one is forcing you or that scantilly clad woman to fly them. The fact that people are calling for a lawsuit disgusts me and makes me realize that people truly have no concept of what the Bill of Rights entails. Wake up- go get a 10th grade civics book and then get outraged that this company is being attacked for doing something that is perfectly legal. I'm more scared about living in a country where business owners have to worry about whiney college girls sueing over situations in which business owners acted within their rights. No one balks or cries "discrimination" at night clubs that have dress codes. Get a clue.

Kudos to Southwest! I expect to have to lecture my children to turn their heads at the beach-- but not on an airplane. Modesty standards have reached an all time low. Thank-you Southwest Airlines. I will always choose you first when I fly.

This is the worst incident in travel history. Southwest Airlines should stop all their flights, get ride of all STUPID airline (IQ test) before resuming service. I'm a business traveler on SW airlines everyweek. I will now stop using SW. I've seen enough of your big headed FAT waitress take the federal law and act like queen bee's. MR. SW CEO, please resign. Get someone in that knows customer service.
---let's hope the fat lady sings for your company.

>>> It boggles the mind to equate how putting restrictions on an outfit unsuitable for network television equates with the Taliban.

Posted by: Brian Lusk - Manager of Customer Communication and Corporate Editor | September 9, 2007 at 2:45 pm

>>>Read your history lessons, Mr. Lusk. This is exactly how it all
begins. One small step. Be very afraid. What goes around, comes around and it might
be your turn next to be the one discriminated against. Perhaps "mind
boggled" persons will not be allowed to fly??
Goodbye SWALosers ~~

Good for you, SWA. We will continue being loyal customers, ESPECIALLY after this incident. I was once a slut myself, and it's really sad how far these women go for attention. I would be horribly offended (because of my children who would also see this) if I was on the same plane as this woman, and am ashamed for ever dressing this way myself. No child should be exposed to a woman whoring herself out like that in such a public arena. Thank you for standing up for the families who travel with you. I wish more companies took a stand against this kind of blatant pornography. Little eyes are watching, we should all be more careful.

I find several things interesting about the general tone of the comments thus far.

FirstÃ

Has anyone ever considered that she had her shirt pulled up and that sweater covering those fake boobs on the today show interview?... not to mention she WASN'T SITTING DOWN. she was LEANING on a stool that was about hip height anyway. We didn't see how she was ACTUALLY dressed that day. Any moron would know to downplay an outfit like that on national TV... she made the best out of the situation.
I'm 22, and I sure don' t go out looking like I'm about to turn tricks. Some women should grow up and learn to respect their own bodies enough not to flash strangers on air planes. Not to mention have the decency to respect people around them enough to cover themselves. SHAME ON HER MOTHER for allowing her daughter out of the house this way. she should have taught her better than this.
This airline is a company... it isn't owned by the government, and they have the right to remove anyone they please. Think about it next time you go out looking like the whore on the corner. If i had to sit next to some slut with her hoo-haw airing out in my face, i'd ask for her to be removed too, if for no other reason than I may come out smelling like *white trash* at the end of the flight.

Any by the way ...

Those of you sad, troubled people who have seen fit to attack Brian Lusk ... all he did was provide a link to an article by someone who was actually on the Today Show set during the telecast, and who apparently has no ax to grind one way or another, AND provide a forum for you to spew your venom.

Those of you who have appointed yourselves as the protectors of poor Ms. Ebbert's rights ... what about the rights of Mr. Lusk and of the people who happen to disagree with you.

Of ... I forgot ... for your ilk, only people who agree with you deserve rights and consideration.

It is you who should be ashamed ... not for having an opinion, but for being unable to state your opinion without trampling on the very principles you allege to be defending.

I will nver fly your airline or affiliates again. I have sat next to people that smelled so bad that I had to complain and was told by the flight crew to hold my nose. shame on you. dress code and this from the airline that started hotpants. take your purtiian ideas and keep them to yourselves.

I have to fly occassionally but have never flown Southwest. I will make it a point to try and do so now. I have seen pictures, news stories and interviews concerning Ms. Ebert and she strikes me as a very attractive young woman that enjoys attention. She may even think that all of this is the best thing that has ever happened to her. Judging by some of the comments it seems that some people believe that as long as A person is not violent they can get on A plane in any condition they want. Being naked would not be out of the question. I hope that these folks will re-examine their thinking and I hope Ms. Ebert enjoys her fifteen minutes of fame.

I am writing to express my full support and thanks for the standout class and unwavering stance that Southwest has taken with the customer that was asked to cover up her outfit. In a world that has sunken to permitting and now advocating this sad mentality that embraces females flaunting their bodies I applaud Southwest and the flight attendant that took a stand.

It is sad to turn on the Today Show and watch a host such as Matt Lauer justify and attack Southwest for doing what is rightÃ

I READ THE ARTICLE AND I'M SORRY BUT I DIDN'T SEE WHERE THE GIRL WAS KICKED OFF. TO ME IT LOOKED LIKE SHE WAS ASKED TO CHANGE HER CLOTHING WHICH SHE DID AND THEN CONTINUED ON THE FLIGHT. IF THIS ISN'T THE WAY IT HAPPENED LET ME KNOW. IF THIS IS THE WAY IT HAPPENED SO WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SOME OF THE COMMENTS ARE WAY OUT OF LINE. WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE MAKING RIDUCLOUS COMMENTS. YOU MUST NOT FLY OFTEN SO SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!! WHAT IS WRONG WITH A LITTLE MODESTY AND DIGNITY? SOCIETY NOW BELIEVES IT IS OKAY TO DO WHAT EVER THEY FEEL LIKE DOING WITH NO REGARD TO HOW IT EFFECTS OTHERS OR THEMSELVES. AND HOW (SUE )HAPPY ARE THESE PEOPLE. I'M NOT CONVINCED SOME OF THE THINGS PEOPLE (SUE) FOR THEY DIDN'T DO ON PURPOSE SO THEY COULD (SUE). AND DON'T WE HAVE BETTER THINGS TO DO THAN HAVE ARE NEWS BE ABOUT WHAT A GIRL WORE ON A FLIGHT? GET OVER IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Soooooo.....what's next? The burka? Asking the young woman to get off the plane cause her skirt was a mini??? From the company that used to dress their attendants in orange and brown very short uniforms???? This is sick...I am glad to see all the comments posted. Whoever made the judgement call to iniciate the incident needs some mental help. You owe that young woman an apology...and the instigator should be more than sensored... Glad I don't have to fly Southwest anymore as others are available..

Seems to me this is a privately owned company, so you are within your rights to make a request to a passenger. Obviously, there were concerns from OTHER passengers that were voiced. If we're going to talk about "rights," they have them, too.? I am personally tired of the continual assaults upon our family's values and beliefs from every direction, and no, I am not physically able to filter it all as a parent. I appreciate the fact that someone out there actually listened to and did something about what most of us out here are thinking and saying.

Although everyone is entitled to their opinion, it seems an airline has very little ability to question the attire of a passenger unless the attire can in some way cause a danger during the unlikely possibility of an emergency egress. As for the comment from the newsshow, although you could see up her legs, it is considered rude and certainly in obscenely bad taste to do so. In addition, even if you sit in the seats facing the bulkhead, who can possibly see up anyone's legs without a blatant and tasteless attempt to do so? What will the airline do when a woman dressed in a burka comes aboard? Will they demand that she remove it as it may cause a danger to her if the plane encounters an emergency? After all, all that material may get caught in a seat, cause her to trip, cause others to be distracted; the dangers are endless. And, by the way, does this also mean that women cannot breast feed their child on southwest airlines with appropriate cover? This decision was out of line and the airline should be responsible for an apology, remuneration for the embarrassment and the crew needs the ability to attend a seminar on personal rights.

Thank you, Southwest! I applaud you for asking this young lady to cover up. I clearly saw her underwear on the Today Show, and I presume that was the complaint on the airline. This was more than a case of I" don't like how she is dressed or how he smells." It is indecent to allow the public to see the crotch of your panties!

Official airline of the NFL, I think not. The cheerleaders on the sidelines of
the games we watch on television are not covered up that much. Maybe you should pull your advertising, maybe the NFL should instead.

Thanks for your stand on this issue. I support the action you chose to take. It is to bad that a society has to be so blind to common sense.

Shame on you, Southwest.

***IF*** there is a passenger dress code, enforce it *before* the plane is boarded. It is wrong to let other passengers determine the dress code.

I have been a big Southwest fan for years and now I'm an even bigger Southwest fan! Way to go guys for standing up for a little decency and defending family values. I think that girl should feel a little embarrased for not covering up. You guys are always friendly, fun, not prudish at all but will say something politely if the line is crossed.

Love you even more, my loyality just keeps going up!

To Another View,
Thank you for making me aware that Mr. Lusk has provided a forum for all to spew our venom. If you read his last posting, he is trying to deflect responsibility from SWA for this ungodly issue to NBC because they did the same. As for SWA allowing us to spew the venom, I posted an opinion on this blog that SWA has decided that it does not belong and has "moderated it" out. Let's get real for a second, if SWA did not want to review what the public is thinking, why would they have opened this thing up in the first place? Blogs like the old fashioned grape vine are beings used more and more by management to get the "feel" of the public or customers.

Also, to whoever made the comment about SWA being a private company....it is not it is a publicly held company traded on the NYSE and they must comply with certain securities law as well as FAA regulations. On top of that, being a public company, one of their first duties and obligations is to the public as well as the shareholders and not the personal views of management.

Here's a suggestion, why don't we kick the whole thing up to the FAA and ask them for a ruling on the definiton of "allowable" dress on an airline flight as well as whether an airline can refuse service to a paying customer who has not broken any law or regulation but is being denied service based on arbitrary and unpublished rules of travel.

Forget the outfit, that is not the issue. The real questions is "how was the situation handled?" I'm surprised I haven't seen any discussion on of that.

I'd have to assume that the SWA staff is trained how to handle awkward and challenging situations with customers. Had the steward quietly asked the passenger to the front of the plane and explained the problem out of earshot of other passengers this situation may not have escalated. If it was indeed handled poorly, if the confrontation was public, and if the passenger was truly lectured, then I think it is an example of training that was not properly followed or training that was no tproperly provided. The girl was going to feel a little humiliated, even if she was addressed with respect and understanding, but she would have likely dealt with it and moved on. What upsets people is when they are treated roughly, without respect and compassion.

That is the nut of the issue, and that is what I'd actually be interested in hearing about. The debate about dress code is old and tired, and it is one that will never go away, and no one will ever win or lose the argument.

Thank you, Southwest, for showing concern for families and children and public decency.

Come on! I'm sure we haven't heard the WHOLE story. Typical of the majority to jump the gun and believe everything the press & the "victim" says!

Her story said she was asked to go to the jetway after the flight attendants had started their "safety spiel" (her words exactly). If that's the case, the flight attendants start their safety demo after the plane has pushed back and is taxing on the tarmac. Total flaw in her story!

She also said she had her tray table down and was just reading a magazine. Who knows, did the flight attendant ask her to put her tray table up and that pissed her off? I've actually seen this happen....people get upset when the crew asks them to do something.

Was she putting her bag up in the overhead bin and her butt was hanging out all over the place? If so, maybe somebody sitting there with their kids asked the flight attendant to say something to this girl.

There are so many reasons why this (possibly) happened. And we ALL should realize the press & the "victim" are only going to let the public know partial details.

I'd like to hear from someone that was actually on this flight.

Southwest, this is why I love you all. I greatly applaud you all for asking the individual to cover up her outfit. Although, this might not be the best publicity for you all, it shows you have family values which are hard to find these days. You all are offering a service to the passengers and if they choose not to abide by these rules then you don't have to serve them! Thanks, Southwest for keeping our sky's safe!!

WOW!!

The assigned seating post has been dethroned!

It is amazingly ridiculous that a post about whether Miss Ebbert has the right to flash her gross anatomy to all within eyeshot (a complete non-issue, the irrational indignation of most responders notwithstanding) has generated more responses than something that is actually material to the operation of and Customer experience on Southwest.

Thank you for standing up for modesty!

THANK YOU, Southwest! I'll choose YOU for my next flight.

Wow! I'd like to thank the many people above who said they will no longer fly Southwest. It'll make it that much easier for me to get an aisle seat on the exit rows.

Hang in there, SW. Since I wasn't there, I'm not going to judge anyone.

As a father of a 24 year-old daughter who flies occasionally, I am disappointed in Southwest Airlines' handling of Kyla Ebbert. I just saw the outfit she wore on your airline. Although the dress is short, I don't find it offensive (and this coming from a father). For an airline that has prided itself in being user friendly, I think you blew it this time. A sincere apology and maybe even a settlement may be in order. This is ridiculous. This isn't the Middle East. Women shouldn't have to cover up their legs if they don't want to.

Brian- kudos for allowing ALL of the posts to be on here. Does this rival the "assigned seating blog" comments or what??!!

What's indecent is what the LAW says, not what SOUTHWEST AIRLINES says. SW Airlines is a PUBLIC carrier, they are supposed to transport the public who stay within the law. Southwest, this was just wrong. You should apologize.

After hearing this i will no longer reserve tickets for my clients, via southwest . this is a violation of her civil rights. esp if you dont have a dress code. i will also advise all my client to withdraw from there dontation to charities you represent as there is no need to endorse you anymore. if she would have been naked i would understand.

I like a short skirt as well as the next guy . I don't want to be seen looking at a skirt so short that exposes her indecently . In all of her description of everything - I repeat everything she wore that day ; she never mentioned panties . She made several references as to her 'complete' outfitr. Her myspace,blog,and interview , listed other underwear ( a bra ) , never panties . I've got a feeling that decorum prevented SWA from pushing the point.

Thank you Southwest and to the employees who had to make that judgement call. I bet it was a hard decision but I'm sure their were sighs of relief from moms who had to answer their children's questions and men trying their best to honor their wives.

Brian McBride wrote...

This young woman should NOT have been wearing such attire on the airplane, in my opinion. As with every airline, there is a contract of carriage that limits your rights in exchange for air travel. I would imagine that these terms and conditions are in writing and could have been reviewed by the young woman prior to air travel.

However, the median educational level of a waitress at Hooters usually precludes comprehension of the material in the aforementioned contract.

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Really Mr. McBride? You're going to call Hooters waitresses stupid? You obviously think of yourself as supremely intelligent, so why couldn't you stop to think that making broad generalizations about a group of people is about the LEAST intelligent thing to do? So Hooters waitresses are stupid? What other generalizations about a specific group of people would you like to make? Would you like to generalize about African Americans, Jews, or any other group that has been historically maligned by closed minded people like you? Here is an assertion and generalized statement that I can make about Hooters waitresses: they work hard and earn thier money in a legal way just like waitresses at any other restaurant, or any other person with a job for that matter. Please, don't assume things about people's intelligence by the way they dress or where they work.

Im glad I dont watch NBC news. Seems they are now hiding the original interview where they had to black out her private area. Just shows they are trying to create a story that is not there.

Also how do we know that is the way she wore the outfit that day. Why should we believe everything she has to say. Leave it up to her lawyer and her to keep waiting to decide if they should sue.(3 months later and they are still thinking about it.)

How sad that people are already saying that Southwest was wrong. Take it to court and let the whole thing come out and let the judge/jury decide. Not the uninformed public.

I fly your airline (1-4 times per month) because of your single aircraft business model and your on-time performance. On most flights I wish your flight attendants would just shut up and let me enjoy some peace and quiet.

Flying is stressful enough - the corny jokes and stupid songs and smart alec and many times too personal comments just add pressure to an already hectic day. This story just burns me. Leave your customers alone - other airlines meet your fares, don't make us stand in ABC lines and don't fly out of outdated terminals with horrendous concessions and facilities.

Apologize to your customer. Your employee went over the line and needs a course in diplomacy.

Oh, and the "club seating" has been gone for years, so seriously, think about it. Who the heck was going to see her underwear with the generous 8 inches of leg room between rows? This was personal, and not about other customer's comfort or abut decency.

If I read correctly, this event happened over 2 months ago. Why is it just now making the media circuit? Slow week, I guess.

I still haven't figured out if "Keith" was the flight attendant or customer service agent. Either way, I am willing to bet a passenger(s) made a comment in regard to her outfit. She may have been giving a peep show while waiting in the gate area. SWA is not and should not be the fashion police, however, if a passenger is dressed in a manner that is offensive something should be said. (Passengers have been asked to remove or turn inside out tshirts that have offensive saying on them.) If Keith asked her to step into the jetway, he was trying not to make a scene. She was dressed to get attention and she got it. If she was truly humiliated and embarrassed, why did she fly home on SWA?

There is a good chance SW management knew nothing of the incident until Kyla contacted the media. SW is not going to make a statement until all the facts are gathered.

Thank you, Kim Seale for once again being the voice of reason.

I do not like anything about the way Southwest handled and is handling this. Since I have not seen a statement from Brian Lusk or anyone at Southwest stating the facts as Southwest sees them, then I have to go with what I've read from the various news sources.

If the people that support Southwest's actions don't mind being lectured by Southwest employees on what they should or should not be wearing and why, then fine. As an earlier poster said, someday this could be you, no matter how conservative you consider yourself.

Yes, Southwest is a business and can impose whatever rules they want on their customers. However, I'm over 21 (in fact I'm 52) and I'm not going to listen to an employee lecture me on what is clearly a subjective matter. I'm going to take my business elsewhere.

I believe Southwest needs to apologize for their employee's actions. That's what Ms. Ebbert said she wanted, and I think that's the least Southwest should do.

The actions of this Southwest employee were completely offensive and I can't believe that Southwest is attempting to defend them. Shame on you. I will never fly Southwest again.

Thank you for sticking up for family values. I am a single father with two daughters. You have done what I wish many others would do...protect the interests of my children. Television and media today has no sense of morals. The media uses hype and shock for profit at the expense of a better society.

This woman claims she is ashamed of the attention - but clearly dressed to attain it. Where does it stop - star studded nipple rings as proper attire?

SWA is in the service business and they do a hell of a job. Can you imagine trying to keep that many people happy in a short amount of time in your job?
All they were doing was trying to appease the customers who were concerned about the Hooter girls outfit being too revealing. The girl should have been more conscientous in her choice of outfits (she flashed her panties when sittting down on the Today show). I'm guessing that this isn't the first time she has offended others with her outfit. Its just that on a plane, others can't leave.

I think Southwest did the right thing.

All I can say, is that the way you dress advertises something about yourself. What message are you sending?

I suppose SWA has the "right" to fly those individuals they feel fit their idea of an appropriately dressed passenger. It is also the right of the consuming public to choose it's airline based on the company's professional behavior or lack thereof. In this case, what was this employee thinking?! I hope you all are thinking damage control in a big way because you have a PR nightmare on your hands!

Mr. Lusk states it "boggles his mind" to equate this action with the tactics
of the taliban. Read your history lessons. It all begins with one tiny step. Perhaps persons with "boggled minds" will not be allowed on SWA next time?
Put your money where your mouth is, people. Boycott SWA.
Off to the UAL friendly skies ~~~

I am not a big fan of Fox TV. Their politics and agenda seem to be just right of Mussolini, but I have to say I admired them when they were bombarded with mail about how bad a show "Married With Children" was by half-witted people like Terry Racolta. Then they had to face the withdrawal of advertising by large companies like Proctor and Gamble when Ms. Racolta started a letter writing campaign saying that if these companies continued to sponsor the show, she and all her blithering idiot friends would not buy their products. Instead of taking the path of least resistance and pulling the show, Fox said: "We think it's a good show and we are going to keep it on and if you don't want to watch it, you have a remote control. In addition if these companies don't want to advertize, we'll find others."

Racolta was trying to get Fox to do what she should be doing and that is guiding her children's viewing, but because she was lazy or too preoccupied with her own activities to monitor them, she wanted everyone to do without, so she could, essentially, ignore her responsibility to raise her children correctly. This is self-centredness in the extreme.

We have now sunk into a quagmire of petty people getting their way because they whine louder than anyone else. It is common for insecure women to despise who they consider to be attractive, but we should not have to suffer for their insecurities. Watch a football game. To stop women trying to have it banned (ostensibly for the violence on the screen, but really because they don't want their husbands comparing them to the cheer-leaders on the field), the NFL allows little to no shots of the cheer-leaders! How weak have we become? Secure women, women who know their worth and value, could not care less what their husbands or potential lovers watch on TV.

This case is just more of the same non-sense. What in the name of all that's holy, in the "Land of the Free," if that moniker can even be used rationally anymore, can possibly justify taking that woman off the airplane and then making her cover her legs with a blanket for the trip? Has SWA gone mad? Does no-one remember the 1960s and early 1970s when the miniskirt was all the rage? Panties were almost always visible and so what? The dressed were shorter than this woman's skirt and after a while a glimpse of panty was not the depraved thing it is now, because one saw it all the time! It was commonplace and accepted, except by a few religious nuts, like the Dutch Reform Church in South Africa which blamed the drought on the miniskirt, claiming God was upset by it! Is that the thinking now? Or is it the personal insecurity and low self-esteem of a few voiciferous American women who don't have the time, discipline or inclination to diet or look after themselves and they don't want to be compared to attractive females. Are we to be governed by the low self-esteem of a small insecure clutch of women?

My sister was visited by her Germaine Greer/Gloria Steinem influenced friend who, though not a Catholic, had joined the "Catholic Women's Movement Against Porn" in Ohio. On that visit, she saw a penthouse in the living room and asked why my sister let her husband read such things? My sister replied that her husband is an adult, so "letting him" read this, or anything else was not up to her to determine; he was free to read what he liked, also, why shouldn't he read these magazines. Her response was very revealing. She said: "I wouldn't let Bill read them, I wouldn't want him comparing me to these 18 and 19 year old bodies?"

That was the real reason she joined the Catholic WMAP, not for moral reasons. I remember her when she was young and attractive and she was quite open minded about her body and sexuality. This new "Morality" grew in direct relation to time and gravity's affect on her breasts, so this was just simple hypocrisy.

Folks, it's time to wake up and smell the coffee before the mediocre take over.

SW Airlines, grow a backbone. Tell the insecure flight attendant or whatever she is, to calm down and get on a fitness regimen if she wants to have nice legs too. If she doesn't feel so inclined, then she must accept the fact that there will be occasions when she will see women who are more attractive than she is. That's life - deal with it.

Have any of you out there condemning Southwest even considered for a second that this gal might be lying? You might want to take a look at these and get a better idea of this girls personality :

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Her Lawyer pulled her Myspace account, want to guess why?

According to one of the passenger's on the flight not only was she NOT wearing panties but she was not wearing the white shirt either. She had that in her handbag for her "Dr's appointment".

It's always been my experience on Southwest that passengers are taken out into the jetway for private discussions, not in full view of other passengers.

I find her entire story...fishy.

Thank you Southwest. I am soooo tired of seeing girls dressed out there like they are ready to hit the streets to make a living. I see nothing wrong with appropriate attire as in stomachs and butt cheeks covered up. I mean come on what about my rights not to have to look at this live soft porn. I believe everyone's right to dress as they want is a given but "dressed" is the operative word here and from the description on the news this young woman was clearly trying to get attention with as little "dress" as possible. She needs some self asteem counseling and her Mother needs lessons in how to act like one. Shame on the Mom for allowing this girl to grow up with so few values and such disrespect for the world at large. I would rather hear the views of the passengers on that plane then to listen to Ms Ebert's whinning.

Sadly this is not the first occasion for SWA dress code violation. I recall Someone in Reno being kicked of for wearing an Anti-Bush tee-shirt. This was labeled as disruptive too. The passanger was massively inconvenienced by being kicked off the flight. Here's the legal issue. Since you are a private company you can obviously choose to refuse service. The problems arise when there is likely a massive non-uniformity in enforcement of what seems to be a policy passangers are not aware of. If it's SWA policy to have a formal dress code, they should post it for all to see. They should also provide people ( like they have in Saudi Arabia for instance ) to let the passengers know when their attire is inappropriate. This seems to be unique situation for a non-islamic airline. Saudi Air has a policy, but at least people understand this up front.

I find this story very disturbing. There was nothing wrong with her outfit. I am a 100% sure it was an insecure, overweight, unattractive female that complained. I am really annoyed by some of the comments for the Holier-Than-Thou women. I am sure they are overweight, miserable, and wish they had nice bodies.
My associates and I have decided we will no longer travel with Southwest Airlines. We are all very attractive with nice bodies. We donÃ

Just the fact that this is the only post you put up here in reference to the incident says a lot about the arrogance creeping into what used to be a LUV airline!

And the remarks of a producer don't take away anything from SW's prudish cultural policing... or from the unneccesary humiliation of a customer from an airline that pretends to succeed on customer friendliness.

The only thing that remains for SW to become another american airline now is ... no, definitely not an acceptance and an apology... but a phony customer who'll claim that she complained about that dress! go get it SouthWest!! (can't dare call it LUV anymore)

Kudos to Southwest!!! My family and I have the right to not have to see someone's "hooters" and everything else revealed in such an outfit. Save it for the club. Eating establishments, stores, and other businesses have signs that say, "we reserve the right of admission," "no shoes, no shirt, no business." Many places have dress codes for dining etc. Why isnt' anyone pitching a fit about that? It's accepted. It's their business and they have the right to say whom they want to serve.Why is it, Southwest does not have that right as well. Planes are tight places. What about others rights

I just watched the interview with this customer online and let me say that we call got a peek up her skirt when she sat down. Now that she has managed to show the nation her underwear maybe she will dress more appropriately. I have to say that I believe that there should be some dress code for flights and that it should be up to the discretion of the flight attendents. If another airline patron was uncomfortable with this woman's outfit, I see no problem with asking her to cover up. It would be a little different on the street where you could choose to remove yourself from the situation but on a flight you are stuck with it. I miss the days when flying in itself was an "event" and people dressed for it.

In the land of the freeeeee....... ???????

I for one am thrilled to hear that someone is taking a stand against indecent attire. YES, that young woman has a right to dress however she wants, but the airline (like any other business) has a right to decide what standards to enforce on its property. (Similar to "No shirt, no shoes, no service.")

Bravo, Southwest! You've just become my airline of choice!

Well done Southwest. Thank you for doing what a lot of us would like to do. I appreciate some people have the need to flaunt themselves but why should the rest of us have to put up with it????
Keep up the good work!

Have you flown on a plane? Hello there is absolutely no leg room and definitely not enough room for someone walking down the isle to see up this woman's skirt. I think it was ridiculous that she was asked to cover up. Why aren't men ever criticized for what they where?

If the woman had been so embarrased by the attention, I don't think she would have taken the return flight in the same outfit. Had I been in her shoes, I would have bought a tshirt of some kind in the gift shop to wear over my outfit.

This is a tough call for the airline when you have other passengers on the airplane complaining to the Flight Attendant
because they are offended. They have to consider everyones feelings. It's their job to ask the person to cover up.

For mothers that breast feed, they always offer a blanket for the mother to cover up and the mothers seem to appreciate it.

I applaud SWA for this move. I'm sick and tired of having to see what I don't want to see just so someone has the "right" to dress innappropriately. If some man came onboard wearing those tight, short shorts we all remember from the early 80's and exposed himself, you can darn well bet they'd do something about it. For goodness sake, when she appeared on "The Today Show" to defend her outfit, I got a nice full shot of her panties! Does this girl (and her mom!) think that's appropriate?

Give me a break!

Bravo Southwest! I respect not only the handling of this situation, but the fact that you followed through despite the potential negative fallout against your company. More people support you in this than you will ever know!

Why has no one considered the fact that MAYBE the flight attendant spoke to the woman as a means to avoid a conflict on a flight? Let's give flight attendants a break, can we? Due to all the changes, increased security and hightened awareness of potential dangerous situations, finding an extra pillow on a flight is the least of their concerns today. Let's look back at what might have happened had the employee suggested the complaining party "take it up" with the scantily dressed passenger. And let's assume someone sitting next to this woman had a problem with the way the complaining party spoke... so they in turn spoke up. Things can quickly heat up in an area like an aircraft and maybe, just MAYBE the flight attendant was trying to protect everyone on that flight from a dangerous situation and thought speaking to her was a quick and efficient means to controlling a situation. But no, we as a society have to make this about everyone's "RIGHTS". Flying is not a "right".. it is a service. If you do not like the service with which you have been provided.. sue, right? Come ON.

This media explosion over such a ridiculous situation will in no way change the way I travel. If SW is able to provide my family of 4 the cheapest flights, I will travel SW. If they cannot, I will look elsewhere. But I will not change my plans based solely on this one woman's complaint.

Good for you SW airlines! Yes, we as Americans have the right to dress the way we please, and yes SW did have FA dressed in skimpy shorts in the 70's all that is true. The problem lies in the fact that in a skirt the size of a band aid- there had to be private bits on display- either with or without underwear. If she was really that embarrassed (which I doubt) then why dress in such a way ? Seems that nudity is becoming the norm these days! Showing your crotch is no longer considered illegal but just what young pretty women do! She was not the only one who has rights? How about all the men women and Children who just wanted a pleasant Family friendly flight?

Thank Goodness some one has some common sense, Why in the world are people like Paris, Brittany, Lindsey and this Kyla Not being arrested for showing their Crotch in public?

Are we so far from a moral standard that this is ok behavior and dress? Where does it end? Should folks be allowed to just forget clothes all together?

Why even mention where she works? What does that even have to do with it? I also noticed that in the photos she has here shirt pulled up and down over her hips... Come on people are you so gullible as to really believe that she was TRYING to cover up? If anyone wanted to see the peep show she was giving ... they could have stopped for some wings off the plane!

I have been a world traveller since 1981, so I have had a chance to sample the culture of airplanes for twenty five years. When returning to the U.S. after a year in India and month in Japan, I found myself in Los Angeles in the Southwest terminal in August. What struck me was the rowdiness generally of the place. Not the adults but the children, who, in Asia, almost anywhere in public were polite and obedient to any adult in their vicinity. The American children in the terminal were brats, frankly. So if the reputation of this airline is easy going, well obviously that all ended. Travelling is supposed to be an adventure. Encountering different people is par for the course. As much as Americans are fixating on controlling everything in their environment, travel is not about that. So, sorry for the comment that got censored yesterday, but I am very disappointed with the airline for what happened to this lady. In the words of Emerson, "Americans are afraid of life, afraid of death, afraid of each other, afraid of themselves" . I certainly wouldn't want scare you with my hourglass figure anytime in the near future.

I applaud the Southwest employee who had the common sense and decency to ask a passenger to clothe herself properly. Male or female, public attire should have a shred of modesty. There should not have to be a dress code on a particular airline, rather our population should have a shred of pride and decency instilled by parents, schools and the media. Let's all go back to using common sense about what we wear in public. What you wear in Hooters or on the beach is not appropriate attire for travel on public transportation? Or didn't your mother ever teach you that?

What great news for all of us weary travelers! Thinking back through the history of the blog, there have been several flashpoints that really seem to irritate frequent flyers: the rude and pushy line-jumpers in the ABC boarding groups; the chaos and delay created by folks bringing everything but the kitchen sink onboard and trying to stuff it overhead; getting stuck in a center seat and departure delays due to people quibbling over what seat to take.

Based on the inflammatory comments, bizarre theological and political comparisons, insults, and overall trash-talking of hard working SWA Employees, I'm thinking that all of these "I'll NEVER fly Southwest again" people were some of the ones who made flying unpleasant for so many others.

Just think how much more peaceful and enjoyable our future flights on Southwest will be now that these folks have volunteered to take their business elsewhere! We'll be left with those of us who appreciate exceptional on-time performance, outstanding fares and the best treatment of passengers in the airline industry, and who willingly and gratefully choose to fly on Southwest any time possible!

Kim
External Blog Boy, who tries to make lemonade out of lemons and then looks at his glass of lemonade as half-full :)

Given I have many choices when it comes to choosing an airline to fly with, after the grossly unfair treatment Kyla Ebbert received from Southwest, your airline will be a last resort for me.

I am so delighted that someone had the integrity and fortitude to stand up to the increasing number of people in this country who dress inappropriately to attract attention--but once they get it they are 'appalled'. Good job. I don't want my grandsons being forced to look at half naked people and think that is the standard. You did the right thing and in the age of suing for everything you are to be commended. I am a customer and will continue to be one when you fly to my destination.

In response to the Southwest Airlines fashion policing incident. Although I find the young womens skirt borderline inappropriate, I find it much more inappropriate that anything was said to her. For one there is no law in this country regarding "class"; second, if anything WAS to be said to her it certainly should NOT have been done in the manner it was executed.

It is obvious that there were underlying motives with the individual who took it upon themselves to be the class police of the world. It is much more likely that this individual allowed their jealously at their own inability to wear revealing clothing to take an opportunity to simply humiliate publicly this young lady. I wonder, did doing this improve this persons self image? I would guess they woke up this morning looking and feeling exactly the same as they did the day before.

I feel sorry that this happened to the young girl, however it SHOULD be a lesson to people who regularly dress in this manner. When you seek attention via your dress your also going to receive some attention you may not want. Dressing revealing is NOT a right to that others are obligated to simply accept. You cannot, for example dress in this manner then become annoyed when a male that you do not find attractive looks at you. YOU are seeking the attention, you cannot then demand that you only get attention from the only the sources you want to attract. You must take what you get.

I see nothing wrong with dressing as you like but there ARE appropriate times to wear a skirt like this and boarding an airline is not one of them. Just to be clear the skirt is the ONLY thing remotely inappropriate about her clothing choice.

But, once again, there are no laws in this country regarding "class". But I certainly feel that Southwest airlines owes this young girl an apology. If your going to be the class police of the world you damn well better have class yourself.

Thank Goodness you are actually posting the comments of customers who pay your salaries. I think that is great. That will be the next thing to go, however. You have infringed on a young womans right to dress herself as she see's fit. (she was covered up). Next thing to go would be losing our right to speak out against her treatment. Unless this is corrected and a full apology is given, you've lost all of the customers I represent. Who am I, people may wonder? I am important. I am an American Citizen, I am a consumer who will be looking for another airline product.

Southwest, I have read the news articles online, I have seen the unedited airing of the Today show interview, and I have to say that I thank you for the actions taken by your employees, I presume at the request of other paying customers. In the interview on the Today show, Miss EbertÃ

I think you did the proper thing asking this person to cover up. I also believe that she will try to establish a lawsuit and a career promotion. She and her mother should be ashamed of themselves.

Thank you Southwest! Many applaud you for taking your customers complaints seriously and asking this woman to cover up. She was dressed inappropriately and from the Today show video obviously was exposing more than just her legs to other passengers. Thank you for upholding a standard of decency.

"A different perspective"?? Are you kidding me? Get a dress code if you're such puritans, and print it on every website, every advertisement and every ticket that bares your name so that customers don't get threatened to miss doctor's appointments because you think your passengers are going to be so traumatized by the site of a young girl wearing perfectly acceptable attire.

THIS is the real issue: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20641687/page/2/

Flying in this day and age has become an utterly dehumanizing experience. We all realize the airlines are struggling and blah blah blah, but the answer to that is NOT to treat passengers like cattle, and certainly not to imagine that you can dictate to them what is and is not appropriate for your "family" (slash: discount flights to Vegas) airline.

You make me sick.

BOYCOTT SOUTHWEST AIRLINES!!!

Southwest Airlines only has the right to dictate dress code if its passengers are fully informed of said code prior to purchasing a ticket.

The treatment of Ms. Ebbert, however "inappropriately" she was dressed, is inexcusable.

I hope she sues. Sues big. One more dilapidated airline that has stopped treating passengers like people out of the skies!

Until Southwest apologizes, BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT.

And P.S., I am:
a. A woman
b. A conservative dresser
c. Exceedingly well-behaved on flights
d. Disgusted with SW.

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I find it interesting that all of the people that agreed with the treatment of that young lady are women. I agree with Sarah, that the women who are commending this action are most likely insecure, overweight, and unattractive. I don't understand the comments about seeing her underwear. There is no way to see up her skirt. There is barley enough room to stretch your legs. These women really need to deal with what is bothering them. I believe it's not her outfit, it's the fact that she is beautiful, blond with a nice body and breast!

My family and I will never, ever travel with Southwest again! I wouldn't want my daughter to ever be exposed to that type of treatment.

We have used Southwest Airlines in the past and have been excited about the prospects of using it in the future, as we were happy with your airline. My husband is now traveling from Denver to LA quarterly on business, and we are planning some of our short city Ã

I saw the skirt that the passenger wore, and it is too revealing! I was watcing the Morning show when I saw the outfit. For everyone who thinks it is not, obviously did not watch the show. When she was asked to sit down by the talk show host, her midsection was immediately blurred out! As she was sitting there, you can see half her bottom! She should feel and be embarrassed. I think the Southwest Airline employee did NOTHING wrong. Her argument was that she passed several check points without being told nothing. Of course, the skirt is ok when she stands, but if I remember correctly when you fly, you have to sit down, and that is where the skirt is inappropriate.

I THINK THE FEDERAL LAWS REGARDING NO SEXUAL HARASSMENT ARE

RELEVANT HERE. I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHY THIS IS SO CONTRO-

VERSIAL. IT WAS A RIGHTEOUS CALL, AND I WOULD EXPECT IT AGAIN .

TO THOSE THAT THINK THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE EXPOSING THEIR

PRIVATES IN A PUBLIC PLACE, YOU ARE WRONG, YOU HAVE NO SUCH

RIGHT. COMMON SENSE, PLEASE FOLKS.

Does anyone remember when you used to dress up to fly?

I remember as a kid dressing up when we were going to fly somewhere and you felt special that you were getting on a plane. You hardely ever see anyone dressed up anymore, unless it is business men and women. It is a miracle that some people even wear shoes (how many times have you seen people walk barefoot on the plane, yuck!! do they evern realize how gross that carpet is).

After watching the interview on the Today Show and watching her flash everyone after she sat down, I think she should be embarassed and she should have thought what to wear before she left her house that morning. I don't think Southwest did anything wrong!!

To all the people who think Kyla Ebbert was wronged. You are so easily manipulated by the media.

For those who believe the person who spoke to her had to be ugly or overweight. How ignorant that you think those people are out to attack the beautiful people of the world.

Every time I fly I get more and more depressed when I see how people dress in public...the "fall of Rome'' keeps coming to my mind more and more these days. The woman dressed like trash and NBC had to blur out her crotch when she sat down and then she has the nerve to say there is nothing wrong with her outfit. Her skirt is sitting at her hipline...obviously if she pulled it down for Southwest, it must have been 6 inches higher before..and her top must have been pulled down to her fricking waistline. She wants attention, that is obvious, and then says she's embarrassed by their actions???exsqueeze me? baking powder???? the only embarrassment is caused by her lack of common sense in what she wears. And then her mother actually defended her...and is doing her daughter NO favor. I suppose her mother sees nothing wrong with her daughter dressing like a whore.. Did it ever occur to this idiot that she may be offending other people who don't like having to see her genitals in public?? Not everyone who takes offense is a prude or jealous. Maybe we just take pride in dressing appropriately in public. Let's see what type of job you get in the future dressing like that, other than a job at hooters. Unfortunately, this woman, and i use the term loosely, is one of hundreds who dress like whores in the airports. HOORAY for southwest...and FOR GOD'S SAKE SOUTHWEST, IMPLEMENT A DRESS CODE FOR THE SAKE OF ALL YOUR PASSENGERS!

Southwest clearly isn't controlled by fundamentalists, ya'll have a gay travel area for pete sake.

But clearly this guy was out of line in what he did to Kyla Ebbert.

Admittedly I am not a big shareholder of LUV, but I have some, and I am waiting for a public apology and clarification the guy was out of line before deciding to sell or not.

I can't find Southwest's comment about this incident (e.g., out of line representative--we don't discriminate) or dress code anywhere on the Website, this is not encouraging. What is the public position of Southwest Airlines please????

To all you people whose lives are so empty and shallow that you need to try to control those of others in an effort to make them as miserable as you, MIND YOUR OWN DAMN BUSINESS!!

And get down to a psychiatrist quickly, because if a small flash of belly skin is putting you over the edge of the PRUDE cliff then you are probably a neurotic or possibly even a psychopath.

If you do believe in god (of whatever persuasion) then you should realize that his/her most wonderful creation was the human form UNCOVERED!

Those who want to cover it up for "morality's sake" need to look inward at their pathological priggishness.

Oh, and for you, Southwest. Post here and publicly in newspapers that you have fired that flight attendant, or you'll never see me flying on your airline again.

sign me,
a frequent flyer

Add me to the "boggled" crowd... it boggles my mind that so many people think it's perfectly acceptable to flash your cooter in public. I guess I really AM out of touch -- I will happily go on record saying that I DO NOT THINK IT IS ACCEPTABLE TO FLASH YOUR COOTER IN PUBLIC. There. I said it. I happily accept the "prude" label that will now be slapped on me by every single one of the "I see nothing wrong with her outfit" group. THE THING THAT WAS WRONG WITH HER OUTFIT IS THAT SHE FLASHED HER COOTER. (Which part of that is so hard to understand?). It's not that her tank top was tight; it's not that her sweater was revealing; it's not even that her skirt was short; IT'S THAT SHE FLASHED. A performance she repeated on national television, let's not forget, although she had added panties by that point.

Fortunately, though, I think the law is on my side. Turns out, it IS illegal to flash your cooter in public! Who knew! Well, "I" knew... but an astounding number of people posting on this blog did not. News for them, I guess.

And to all the people saying "those seats are so close together there's no way anyone could see up her skirt" -- I ask: do you think she was teleported onto the plane? Do you not think she walked down the aisle to get to her seat? Do you not realize her naked crotch and buttocks (let's face it -- if she had been wearing panties on that plane, she would have said so in the interview) was at eye level to every seated passenger? (Again, what part of this is so hard to understand?)

Quote: "And get down to a psychiatrist quickly, because if a small flash of belly skin is putting you over the edge of the PRUDE cliff then you are probably a neurotic or possibly even a psychopath."

Ernest, you honestly think this whole thing is about BELLY SKIN?! Are you kidding? The issue is a little further south than that... think "men would be arrested for doing this at a playground" and maybe the light will start to dawn on you...

Inexcusable behavior by Southwest and the flight crew! The woman had a mini skirt and is treated that way? Complaints about her attire by other passengers? Maybe if a passenger is offended by a beautiful woman with an obviously attractive body they should not be staring at her. The problem seems to be with some very unstable/dysfunctional or nut job religious/moral police types on your plane, not a nice girl minding her own business. Did her skirt pose a danger to the flight so that other passengers complaining should be used to decide your crew's actions? Why didn't the attendant tell the people complaining not to look at her? Why didn't the attendant point out that her attire is not deemed obscene by any public laws? Did the young lady do anything lewd toward any of your passengers?

Wow! I am shocked that Southwest did this and then refused to apologize. I had no idea Southwest was run by ultra right types who are so zealous that they cannot separate personal taste from running a professional business. So now anybody flying Southwest has to worry that clothing, hairstyle, tattoos, etc as interpreted by the likes of one of your supporters in this blog who applauded your saving the world from immorality, will get them thrown off your plane? If suspicious behavior like the group of Muslims having a strange to our culture group gathering right before a plane takes off occurs, that CAN BE interpreted as a serious concern about safety. If you think a girl's skirt is too short why the hell are you looking down there in the first place! The hypocritical Perverts on your plane were the problem, not the young lady!

I don't know if the majority of the women who express outrage at how the young, attractive Ms. Ebbert dresses are overweight and unattractive.

However, the Hooter's connection reminded me of something that happened in San Antonio in July 1994. The national vice-president of NOW (National Organization for Women) chained herself to a railing outside of the Hooter's restaurant on the San Antonio Riverwalk as a protest. The local paper published her photo and she was definitely overweight, and in my opinion most unattractive.

But women have a choice to work or not work at Hooter's, knowing what it entails. And we have a choice to fly or not fly on Southwest, knowing that if someone, man or woman, overweight and unattractive or fit and hot, complains about our attire then we are subject to ridicule, lecture and removal from the flight.

I'm flying to Albuquerque on Thursday, and will NOT be flying Southwest.

Whoever made the decision to remove Kyla Ebbert from her flight should be fired immediately. There was nothing out of the ordinary about her dress and it was quite acceptable. This kind of action makes me reconsider flying with you. What's next, my sideburns are too long?

Whatever happened to the concept of "We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone" that I grew up with. Southwest has an image to uphold and the young lady(I use that figuratively) did not meet that standard. I am surprised that I see few if any comments defending Southwest.

Whoever made the decision to remove Kyla Ebbert from her flight should be fired immediately. There was nothing out of the ordinary about her dress and it was quite acceptable. This kind of action makes me reconsider flying with you. WhatÃ

I don't have a problem with Southwest asking the girl to cover up. I'm no prude, but that outfit was meant for a night club not an airplane.

I'm sure her underwear (if she was even wearing any) was just as skimpy as the skirt.

One last thing... If she was embarrassed by the situation, why is she going on TV to tell the whole nation about it? She is just looking for some free money via a lawsuit.

Russ,

Unless your sideburns are somehow attached to your frank and beans, and you are going commando while wearing a kilt or short shorts, you have nothing to worry about.

Hope that helps. Have a nice day!

Congratulations, Southwest, for reminding everyone of how our society is still blatantly misogynistic. The old days of "refusing service to anyone" and "she made me do it because her skirt was too short" continue to haunt us. It's also nice to know that my comments will be relegated to this black hole blog for discontent customers (or rather EX-customers). It'll be a cold day in hell when I fly this airline again.

Mr. Bueno,

No one need worry about their clothing, hairstyle, tattoos, etc. on a Southwest flight unless there is a lack of clothing covering their naughty bits, their pubic hair style (not a worry when you're appropriately clothed) or tattoos on said bits (again, not an issue with appropriate clothing).

I hope that clears up your confusion. Have a nice day!

I certainly am defending Southwest, Matt!
Southwest is
So
Wonderfully
Awesome! :)

To T Lince: Her failure to assert that she was wearing panties does not prove that she was not. It merely adds doubt.

If Southwest were to come forward and tell us that passengers had reported seeing private parts, we would have a strong indication that the underwear was insufficient or absent. As things stand, without this information, Southwest is the one with its pants down in this PR battle.

I think the decision to approach the young lady was correct. She couldn't sit and rise on the news programs without flashing the camera, so I doubt she could on the plane either.

BUT I agree with the comments that the matter should have been handled a bit more discreetly - no one else should have heard, even if it meant the flight attendant and passenger stepping out into the walkway.

I do not view this as a decency issue. If it were, Kyla would have been arrested on her way to the airport, in security, at check-in or somewhere else in the airport for indecency. Since she was not arrested, it can be assumed her dress met contemporary standards in San Diego and Tucson. Over the years, I have flown Southwest by far more than any other airline, dozens of flights, and certainly there is all levels of dress or undress on many flights. Individuals travel in everything from tank tops and gym shorts, tube tops and hot pants to just plain poor fashion. This is probably one of the reasons Southwest has often been dubbed the "Greyhound of the Skies". Therefore, it is clear this is really a moral issue, and that I find is frightfully disturbing. As Keith, the flight attendent, is purported to have said, this is a "family" airline. The inference can be drawn that her attire is not acceptable for moral reasons. Southwest does not have a written policy on "morals", so I assume that it is totally subjective, and they make it up as they go along, depending on the flight, day of the week, flight attendents on duty, etc. One thing is for sure, by SW's management response of backing their flight attendent 's actions in passing judment on the moral dress of this passenger, they have found religion!! Are they trying to become our "fundamentalist" airline? As other's have pointed out when Herb was in charge, Southwest's flight attendent's wore provacative outfits in their own right. For myself, and others I have talked to, we have found the treatment of Kyla outrageous and reprehensible. Will one of us be their next victim? I am now very curious to explore on how they feel on other so called moral issues, and if they will continue to humiliate other passengers, without warning as they did Kayla, who are lawful but deemed "immoral" by SW Management or a segment of society traveling that day on their airline. We know how Southwest feels about liquor- they give away free coupons, but how does Southwest feel about its gay passengers? Would they have a problem with a same sex couple holding hands or kissing because it offended another passanger. What if Bill ()'Reilly was on a return flight from watching a ballgame in San Diego and complained about a gay couple traveling together on his flight. As it appears that managment is supporting and perhaps leaning towards intolerance, I would urge the management of Southwest to define its moral standards so we can see where they stand on a variety of issues, and then we as passangers can make an informed decision on whether to fly the airline. I start jury duty in Tucson next week. For her case, I think 2 years salary of the highest paid Southwest Officer would be a suitable compensation for her harassment and humiliation.

God, if only it was true..that so many of you would choose NOT to fly SW...how nice that would be. Less crowds, particularly trashy dressers, would be a nice thought. But who do you think you're kidding? Southwest is the best airline in the country. Herb Kelleher had it right..The customer is NOT always right. This bimbo had to pull her blouse UPand pull her skirt DOWN ...take a good look at the photo...if that's the case, she was absolutely obscene. If someone took offense and complained, SW is in their rights to address that complaint and take action. She absolutely should have been embarrassed, not by SW, but by her own lack of modesty and and shame. she was an embarrassment to women and to smartly dressed hookers!

what a classic case of peeing on my shoe and telling me its raining....This young lady may have been embarresd but she was not humiliated...it was her choice to go public with her embarresment will she sue the today show for censoring her as well? Yes to you all who think it is OK to show everything in public...Public Indecent exposure is regulated in America and it was not a SWA regulation..and to those of you that have chosen to make this blog a form of stating your political and biased rules based on national orgin..I am hoping that SWA will forward your comments to homeland security, as I find that much more perturbing. I agree with the person who states SWA will be a much more peaceful and enjoyable ride now that so many have volunteered to go elsewhere, Not to mention a much safer ride.

Yes, Joe, that national VP of NOW must have been protesting Hooters because she was overweight and unattractive and just felt so darn unworthy. It couldn't possibly be because she was taking a stand against the objectification of women and the fact that there are establishments that profit from that objectification. She wasn't standing behind the beliefs of her organization at all - she was just feeling sad that day because someone might have perceived her to be overweight and most unattractive.

And the women who are posting here to defend Southwest must of course all be definitely overweight and most unattractive as well. And what of the men who are defending Southwest? Or does it not matter how the men look?

If SouthWest has a single scrap of corporate integrity and pays even a slight attention to the opinions of its customers you'll admit that you blew it big time on this one. Do the right thing and apologize to this girl and stop hiding behind some phony corporate "policy".

What would Southwest Airlines do if Marilyn Manson came on the plane in Gothic dress? How about if the President of the Southern Baptist Church was sitting across from him, and began morally judging him for his dress. Many people dress Gothically, or in todays fashions--which is the accepted norms of the fashion world. Can any other person judge another for what they wear on MORAL GROUNDS. This issue is truly not about what Kyla was wearing and more about someone "The AIRLINE ATTENDANT" who has been recently given more power by the airlines to enforce whatever silly rules they wish. I have noticed a continued trend in my past 50 or so flights where the flight attendants are less friendly and more confrontational with passengers. For an Airline that claims to have "POSTIVELY OUTRAGEOUS SERVICE"--I would agree that the treatment of KYLA is "SERVICE AT ITS MOST OUTRAGEOUS FORM". I have flown over several hundred flights in the last few years and I think I can distinquish a difference in behavior of management solely through its actions of instructing their staff. When babies are removed, women are chastized,and people are MORALLY JUDGED this AIrline is definitely in a declining mode by not trying to provide great service, Southwest Airlines once gained quickly in popularity for having Flight Attendants who joked with the crowd, lightened your hard day with a smiling face, and the entire crew (ground & air) would go out of their way to make your trip better. Captains' on the flights used to Thank You for flying Southwest and in the last 6 flights I have only heard this once. My last flight to San Diego over Labor Day Weekend began with a Flight Attendant who once I was seated in the Emergency Exit row asked if I Knew I was in the Emergency Exit Row and would I help in case of an Emergency. I repeated "Yes" loudly, she then proceeded to say I did not hear you in a very serious tone. I repeated "YES" respectfully, and she then said, "If you can not answer than I will have to move your seat." I then spoke at an alarming level and she then proceeded to say, "You don't have to yell at me." She said this same thing to toher passengers in the same area. This constant kind of harassment has been more and more prevelant when flying. Truthfully, it takes all the fun out of flying. It makes me reconsider that the hassel of passsing through security only to be treated miserably by the Flight Attendants makes flying a painful experience. The ending to this blog is to ask if I feel that screaming childrten should be MORALLY reprimanded by the FLIGHT ATTENDANTS and thrown off the airline because they offend my silebnt nature--with Southwest AIrlines policies--I would fully expect them to honor my personal needs over another passenger. If you read that clearly, I hope it sounds as stupid as it was intended. What is next? Who is next? What Culture is next? What will be the criteria for these judgements, and since I pay the fare to fly--Don't I get a Say? Or is Southwest Airlines just too big to care about providing service. Knowing that if they just take as much money as possible, people will put up with whatever Southwest cares to dole out to us. With 96 million passengers, it seems likie they just do not care anymore. I am deeply disturbed and hope that Kyla does sue the airline and the flight attendant for their lack of care, their MORAL JUDGEMENT, and their harrassment & humiliation she did not deserve.

Everyone on this blog keeps saying that "she was kicked of the plane". From all of the reports I have heard, she was asked to adjust her skirt to be "less revealing" and then she was permitted to stay on the plane and take her original flight. I don't see anything wrong with Southwest asking the young lady to make herself look more appropriate in a public place. I wouldn't want my daughter to dress like that.

All I have to say is that Southwest is the best. Now all of you that are bad mouthing Southwest ought to be a shamed at yourselves. I can assure you that most of you who are trash talking are the first ones to call when ever you want to go and visit families and friends during the holidays and want a low fare.

I support southwest and all of the employees.

P. S. For all of you staying at home and saying you hate Southwest, Go and Fly Jet Blue and American and get stuck at the airports because they all cancelling there flights .... Southwest rocks!!!!!!!

Southwest should require all women to wear a burkha in order to fly on its planes. Better yet, women should not be allowed to fly at all. They should stay home and clean the house and be submissive to their husbands. (LOL)

I bet that if you check the flight attendant's background you will find another flaming right wing evangelical. Hope she sues your ass and collects a bundle. The guy should have been fired on the spot not only for what he said but the way he went about it.

Southwest almost kicked Kyla Ebbert off her flight because her outfit was "inappropriate?" What about Southwest's "Gay" section on their home page? (Go to Southwest 'sitemap.' ) You'll see the word and link 'Gay.' Click on that and see Southwest's pictures of gay men in tight shirts being affectionate. Southwest then recommends 'Gay Friendly' destinations with the Siuthwest vacation packages.

Give me a break Southwest! THAT IS WRONG!! Supporting Gays! It's not wrong that Kyla Ebbert wore that lovely outfit she had on! Southwest, you should be ashamed, especially since the Southwest 'Gay' link is just down from the 'Kids corner' link!!!!!

Exactly when did SouthWest Airlines get elected to the office of Fashion an Morality Police??? I have flown SWA for years and remember when they were the "Fun" airline. Apparently now things have changed...the PAYING customer is no longer "right" and their gestapo tactics of pulling patrons off flights at the whim of their "Old maid" looking stewardess's will have me looking to fly on their competition.

I have a few questions that everyone seems to be saying but SWA still needs to answer:

1 What is the "official" response by SWA on this issue? Haven't seen or heard of one yet.
2. What is the Leadership (CEO and Chairman) of SWA saying about what appears to be very bad PR? Does anybody in business ask themselves "what repercussions will my company experience from my actions if the issue was published in the newspaper?" This was klnown as the "newspaper test" and it prevents many embarassing situations.
3. Why is SWA, specifically the editor of this blog, trying to defend SWA's actions by deflecting their lack of professionalism to NBC?
4. What is the airline going to do about handling sensitive customer service issues in the future? How about SWA posting a "bill of rights" for the travelling public for their airline.

There seems to be quite a few REALLY angry customers here. SWA needs to remember, the people that post on this log are current and/or future customers and if they decide the ones having a "pro" Kyla attitude do not meet the "values" of your airline, I hope they will be prepared to explain to the stockholders and maybe Congress why "values" are more important than the travelling public's right to be comfortable.

I am disgusted with this whole thing. I believe the Kyla was wronged and SWA should pay. What I am more disugsted about are the people who believe that their value systems and morals are far in excess of mine and they can dictate what I can and cannot do. To those who think they that their "values" give them special priveldges because they are "better" than me, get REAL. I am as good or even better than you. I am an individual and do what I believe is correct. We all see what extremism and extemist thinking is doing in the world now, right? We do not even have to look overseas, all we need to do is look in Washington DC. How many of our freedoms have we lost, young men and women either lost in battle or scarred for life and billions of dollars wasted, because a bunch of extremists are working the top jobs in DC?

I am shocked about on how the young lady was treated on your airline. By your own response as shown on the Today Showm you handle these situations in a "discreet and professional manner." Being severely reprimanded about her attire within earshot of other passengers on the plane is neither discreet or professional. I will join the thousands of others who will not fly your airlines at all from now on. Maybe you can save some face by doing the following:
1) apologize publicly to the young lady (should have been done long ago!) - regardless of her attire, she was embarassed by the inappropiate actions of your employees;
2) fire the individual that scolded her about her attire with earshot of other passengers on the plane - he has done irreparable damage to your customer service reputation;
3) severely reprimand the person who made the decision to confront the young lady (if not the individual above) - enforcing a non-existent dress code in that manner was obviously a wrong decision; and
4) in the future, if a young lady's short skirt becomes an issue, try giving her a blanket and a brief note requesting her to cover up in a polite way (THAT would be discreet and professional!).

As it stands now, you have lost hundreds, if not thousands, of customers due to this PR fiasco. I hope she does sue you for thousands more for the humiliating way that she was treated. Your refusal to handle this problem 2 months ago has probably cost you possibly hundreds of thousands of dollars - and I see your stock has taken a tumble the past couple of days - no surprise there. Good luck fixing this sinking ship.

Company shills like Matt and Kimberly are forced to make strawman arguments for lack of any other substance. Of course the company has the right to refuse service...it is just stupid and we are pointing that out. They could refuse on any number of grounds and we would still have the right to call them on it. Coke switched to New Coke, perfectly within their rights, and the country showed them what a mistake that was...same with SW.

BRAVO SOUTHWEST!! Our family has always been loyal to you because of the care and attention you show us when we board w/ our children. Now, there's another reason to LUV you! We would not want our sons sitting by that poor girl.

You seem to be caught in the middle of a bad situation. I would bet that your employee was trying to treat the issue discreetly and something intervened. Don't bow to all the bloggers currently insulting you on your handling of the situation. They say they won't fly with SWA, but most of them are so shallow, they will be on your next flight because it leaves 10 minutes earlier than anyone else's. You could probably use some help in the letter writing department if the Today show read the complete letter. Trust your employees.

Every place has its rules of order, whether spoken or unspoken. And as many have pointed out, the woman went through many other checkpoints on her way to the plane, without incident. That's the problem. She had gone through all the preflight scrutiny, that we all endure now, only to be rebuffed on the plane itself. Anyone who has taken a series of these flights cross country feels like a bus rider after about the third or fourth leg. And my understanding is she was going on a brief trip to a doctor in a nearby town. That's the shock of it. The expectation of an easy trip, the walk through the airport, and then being singled out, like a scapegoat, for something as benign as a skirt length, offends women. Rules are followed especially when posted: "No shoes, no shirt, no service", etc. and she was clearly wearing her shoes, once they were given back to her in security. She had two shirts on. And a bra. In Italy, shorts will get a woman tourist kicked out of a church. In India, certain times of month preclude women from entering a temple. The old traveler's guide books always recommended that the western traveler dress conservatively to go through international customs, no matter how hot it was, no matter what the dress code was at the beach. As many of you point out this isn't a public place, once you step on the plane. Maybe that's the confusion, the airport is a public place, but the plane is the terrain of a private business. I would have been stung but the reprimand and found another carrier right away. That is a cost to our traveller, since most doctor visits require 24 hours notice for cancellation. That's the cost of having a dress code that doesn't jive with the public airport where Ms Ebbert crossed uneventfully onto the southwest plane. Is the airline making a lesson of her? Might this have backfired, alienating other customers who thought they understood Southwest's easygoing culture. There was a time when moving the offending person far away from the offender passenger might have been the solution. I'm not sure why no one thought of that. As these posts indicate, not everyone was offended by her attire or even the prospect of it. If the air line has a gay section, perhaps it should have a night club type area for the over twenty one crowd. This happens all the time in cities, the skateboaders vs the grandmas, the mcMansions vs the old bungalows, etc. We use space with people operating with different rules. Can we control them? Is there some minimum agreed upon dress code for the traveller, the diner, etc. I hope that Southwest takes the time to understand these concerns. Otherwise I'm sure people will make their own sense of it for good or ill.

You guys were dead wrong in treating Kyla Ebbert in this way. I hope she sues you for humiliating her in this way. Keith should be fired and you owe Kyla a HUGE apology.

Do you remember you are an American company? Do you remember what this country stands for? Freedom. She was not revealing cleavage, her skirt was short, but once seated who the heck would know? I've seen the clothing Kyla was wearing and there was nothing wrong with it. What do you want? Burkas?

Shame on you. I will remember this next time I have a choice in airlines - and I will hold this against you. Treat your customers with respect or you'll have none.

Roger- you are an idiot. You say posters are shallow and SWA should ignore what they say. Brilliant. The company should ignore hundreds of potential customers complaining that the company has acted shamefully. SWA should hire you, you'd fit right in. Many customers DO remember these things. I've been boycotting EXXON for years, and I am also boycotting KLM for destroying my luggage and then dumping it wrapped in tape on my front doorstep in the dead of night. I will never fly with them again, and I've stuck with that for years despite flying to the Netherlands many time since. If I believe a company may not treat me appropriately I will not afford them the opportunity to do so.

SWA - you were wrong and you need to fix this.

THANK YOU!!!! I am VERY HAPPY to see a company with a moral conscience and standard. When this girl goes to her job at Hooters, she is expected to dress that way, and those who go there are expecting her to dress that way. But on an airplane she is expected to dress in a way that will not be offensive to others, or impose on others rights to their flight. She would not have gotten on the plaine with a shirt that read "I am a Highjacker". Because this would have been very unsettling for the other passengers and this is the same kind of situation. And finally, if anyone believes she did not pull up her shirt and pull down her skirt before she took the picture to send to her mother, they are crazy. She was probably showing cleavage and who knows what else when she sat down and the skirt rode up! I would like to see the airport video of how she actually looked. It is time the tiny top and belly baring skirt stopped. Our youngsters and parading themselves to all who can see them, and to all those who would want to harm them. Thank you for your stand and thank you for not apologizing for it. As this was obviously brought to the attention of the employee by an offended passenger, thank you for listening to your customers! PLease continue to spread this "family values" to the rest of your morally questionable areas. Thanks again!!!

Thank you Southwest for standing up for modesty!

I'm unsubscribing from your e-mail list and choosing to no longer fly Southwest., until I read that the man who humiliated this woman is demoted or fired.

I saw both versions of the show, saw what she was wearing and I'm totally disgusted that your airline would waste valuable pre-flight time shaming someone like this.

Your "cattle call system" is the obscenity here - now the personal predjudices of puritanical flight attendents can have an effect on whether I get on a flight that *I* paid for? No thanks - I'm joining the Southwest Boycott. You people don't deserve to be in business

I appreciate SW's courage in standing up and exercising the good judgment that Kyla obviously lacked. If there isn't a stated dress-code this may, unfortunately, cost SW in the short term. However, doing the right thing often pays dividends in the long-run. I have kids and would not have appreciated her choice of clothing for the flight. This is a clear issue of a selfish person who forgot to think before they acted. By the way, when and how did 'constitutional' rights become an issue? She dressed inappropriately and got called on it. She's embarrassed and humiliated, yet she (and her mother and attorney) draw more attention by ratcheting this issue up in the public's eye? Sounds more like a litigious person who is looking to make money. Oh well, if she gains any money from this, maybe she can go purchase more clothing (because we all know you can't buy common sense). In any case, she'll probably think twice about wearing certain articles of clothing out in certain public situations in the future.

I am a mother of a 7 year old daughter. I would NEVER want my daughter to dress that way, and if she did, I would want someone to tell her to change her clothes.
There are different dress codes for different situations, for example, mini skirts and other revealing attire are for nightclubs or standing on the street corner.
When traveling by plane, dress casual, a nice shirt and a pair of shorts are good.
It's all about respecting others around you.
Southwest, stand your ground, stay strong!
I'm on your side!!!!

I read her early comments that she re-arranged her attire to cover revealed areas. I figure the posted photos of her attire are similar to "after re-arranging" rather than how she first flopped her privates down in the seat on the plane. I am thankful that Southwest Airlines considers appropriateness of attire that can negatively affect hygene for subsequent passengers and I support their employee's judgement in calling this attire into question. This is an average looking girl attempting to get publicity and money (and likely fame) from a company that is responsibly handling a situation that affects where others will sit after she is long gone. From her mother's comments, the mother is a disgrace too. But, judging by the Brittneys, Paris Hiltons, LiLo's, etc. of the world, this seems to becoming the norm. :(

I applaud SWA's attempts to keep reasonable hygene where "public" seating is concerned. I'll fly SWA whenever possible!

This was the best decision ever! Unfortunately not too many people believe in respectable dress anymore. Our daughters continue to be pushed into media as nothing more than an object and this lady has perpetuated such a trend. Thank you Southwest! This was a great call! Notice by the bloggers that most people that find such an act offensive happen to be men who apparently appreciate women dressed like this.

I can't believe the anger being directed towards Southwest. If there was nothing wrong with the woman's attire, why was she embarrassed? Lots of places have dress codes. So, what's the big deal? If the woman tried to enter a nice restaurant or a dozen other places, she would have been refused service or given something to cover herself up.

WOW!!!
So many people have so much to say about this!
Of course as do I.
Some have suggested that she dressed in head to toe garb. Some have suggested that she is the reason women are being demoralized. Some have suggested that she is the very reason the morals of this country are going to hell in a hand basket.
Hooray for South West??? Are you high???
You are all fruit cakes!!!
We as a society today have evolved from high collared shirts and full length skirts. to a more comfortable attire. Is this something I as 35 year old would wear?? Probably not since I am a man. (And for all you bashers out there just stop now because I am a gay male) (who also happens to care not to hear from all the holy rollers here either)
But it is called EVOLUTION. Something some of you are still have issues with.
It was wrong flat out. I hope she sues the hell out of southwest and then she can fly a better airline.
I personally wont be flying southwest anymore. I do tend to wear comfy sweats without under ware and would not want to be embarrassed because Im showing an unsightly bulge.
Is that last comment silly? Of course it is just like most of the other comments here.

I've read the comments about the young lady well its actually both young ladies at this point. If you go on any local "hot" climate campus that is what you will see. The young ladies and guys dress anyway they want to because its their right. Yes, you have rights but you better not be the person who fits into any one of the catagories below because then I will complain and have you spoken to like a 6 year old.
I wish that if you started policing clothing that you would also police the following, men who take their shoes off (SMELL) older women who wear shirts that are too big and their large breasts hang out, kids who have a dirty diaper, parents who allow their children to kick the back of chairs, people who bring on food because they can't go 2 hours without any, bad breath, body odor, skirts that are too long that they trip falling on me, or in an emergancy it will get in the way( check the local hospitals dress code they do not allow long skirts), overweight people who don't buy 2 seats and therefore sit in the middle seat and roll on me, someone who talks loudly, someone who chews their gum loudly, stupid comments made by airline personal intended to be funny, personal either straight or gay that bother me and anything else I feel like complaining about.
How dare you decide for me what is appropriate or not, that is not your place nor is it the stupid person who complained about this young lady. If I was her I would sue you for future stress because that was not olny embarrasing it was also unforgivable.
If you read this blog which I don't think you will, but out of all the letter posted here how many are positive, and out of those real consrvative blogs do you think fly Southwest on a regular basis? HMMMm lets see mayber 15 are positive and maybe 1-2 fly you at least monthly now look at all the customers you lost.
I'm no tgoing to lie and say I'll never fly you, you're the only airline that flys direct to see my grandmother, but what I will say is this, I will never fly you if another airline is available. By the way I only see my grandmother 4 times a year, but I fly montly to all those places you do . The difference is I'll be flying an airline that on concentrates on security, flying on time preformace, staff that is their to ensur emy safety and not on an airline that doesn't like the way I dress.

I cannot believe this happened in America. The young woman was far more dressed than many people I see at Court as a paralegal. My family uses Southwest a lot. I can assure you that we won't be any more. I would think that the airlines would have more important things to deal with such as terrorists, crashes and drunk pilots than to worry about what someone was wearing.

I fly Southwest everytime I can when traveling. That roughly equates to something like 25-30 business trips per year, not including any personal flights I may decide to take. I may reconsider spending my money with this company if this is a part of the way they do business. Quite frankly, I think Southwest employees commenting on anyone's personal dress is the thing that's offensive here. I personally have no opinion one way or another about the young lady's attire, because whenever possible I mind my own concerns and leave other people alone. The idea that a paying customer could be removed from the flight for wearing an outfit that is merely suggestive of something lewd or inappropriate gets me steamed. That assessment is subjective, and as such, should be left to individual tastes (provided no laws of indecency are being broken). When I want morality injected into my air travel I'll fly Air-Robertson, or Air-Dobson. When I want to get to my next business destination I think I might choose a different airline than Southwest!

I was shocked that Southwest was so concerned about what this young woman was wearing. They should be more concerned with terrorists, airplane crashes and drunk pilots. My family always flown on Southwest in the past. I can assure you that we won't be anymore.

And to Joe D. above, she was not embarrassed by what she was wearing, it was the manner in which this non-existing dress code was conveyed to her. The only dress code for a restaurant I have ever seen required a man to wear a tie and a jacket of some kind. The length of a skirt is never mentioned.

What is more important here is the fact that she paid the fare as did everyone else on the flight. What will be next to go... men who have 5 o'clock shadow not being allowed to board until they shave? Children being drugged so everyone can have a quiet flight? It may sound ludicrous but so does refusing to allow a woman to board a flight that she paid for for the length of her skirt.

I find this entire thing rather pathetic.

Don't we have more important things to argue about? Her skirt was inappropriate...so were the actions of the airline. No, she shouldn't dress like that..but the airline shouldn't have embarrassed her about it.

I think what disgusts me even more are the comments about "worrying about fat people"...we can't judge clothing, but we can judge people based on size?? Slamming people of faith and calling them names because you don't agree? Rushing to snap judgments on who complained???

If you don't like what Southwest did, then don't fly with them. Period.

But it is so very, very sad when we have to sue over something like this, and resort to such verbal abuse of others. Meanwhile, children die of AIDS and starvation...but hey, we can wear our short skirts and flash our panties because we sued and won!!

So sad. And incredibly pathetic.

Southwest, find a better way to deal with customer complaints.

Women, leave something to the imagination.

And for those who want to slam me for being overweight, bigoted, and a religious zealot...then I suppose you can feel free, if that's what it takes to make you feel good about yourself.

I am a wife, and a mother, and a grandmother.
After seeing the outfilt, I am amused by what the mother thought was ok dress for her daughter ANYWHERE.
Today we have become a world of people who think nothing of dressing in a trashy, revealing way. The clothing industry trips over themselves to come up with more outlandish fashions. Years ago the classy person wouldn't even get on a plane in jeans; now they get on with practically nothing on at all.

Southwest has a right to carry whomever they want to carry.
Next time take your cleavage to another airline, Kyla; it's as simple as that.

NBC's poll on the issue, while not scientific, was announced this morning on the Today Show and it's on their website at http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/20638463 - it shows the following results:

20% - Yes, her skirt was so short it was practically obscene.
51% - No, it wasnt's inappropriate attire.
29% - No, but if she was my daughter I'd ask her to cover up more!

That's 80% for the "No" votes. Now do you see which way the public sentiment is regarding this PR fiasco?

While Southwest is a private company owned by scads of investors, they operate under the authority and license of the US Government and there are at least two or more government departments or agencies who can put the screws to them. There are limits as to how they can discriminate amongst their passengers. All of you folks who have commented that they're a private company and do as they wish are flat out wrong.

Don

I was very disappointed with Southwest Airlines after watching Matt Lauers Today show segment on Kyla Ebbert of San Diego, California.

It is very evident with Miss EbbertÃ

Southwest should be ashamed of the way they treated her! This is the REAL issue here. I've encountered this many times as a business professional who travels often. People who work in the service industry have no clue how to handle people. I've heard retail managers berate employees in the middle of the establishment with no regard to how inappropriate (not to mention extremely uncomfortable) it is to hear as a patron. The same holds true with how they treat their "valued customers." This conversation should have taken place OFF of the plane. There shouldn't be anyone who disputes that. For that, she deserves an apology.

It's also so sad to listen to how uptight some of you are. It was a FLIGHT!! She wasn't going out to dinner, to a wedding, to church, or a funeral, she was taking an airplane ride! Quit condemning our entire society by the choice of clothes a person decides to wear. It doesn't serve as an indication of our society. It's a fashion trend that will go away like the rest. This isn't the first time a short skirt has been in style.

She was embarrassed becuase she should know better. If Southwest had not allowed her on the airplane, they most likely would have given her a full refund. If you walk around showing your crotch off in public, you should be prepared for some people to have problems with it.

If she was walking around without a shirt, she would not have been allowed on the airplane. Instead, she tried to get on the airplane in an outfit that doesn't allow you to sit down without showing off her crotch. What do you suggest parents with kids walking by her to use the restroom do? Ignore the crotch in full display?

If you walk around in provacative clothing, you should be prepared for someone to take issue with it. We do live in a society filled with many different cultures. Britney and Paris have showed the public their crotches, but that doesn't mean the traveling public should have to see them while sitting at the airport on an airplane.

Some restaurants that require men to wear suit coats keep some coats on hand for men who show up at the door inappropriately dressed. Perhaps Southwest should have disposable burqas available to insure that no one on the flight is put through the psychological stress of seeing someone else's skin.

As a friend of mine always says, "If you see something you ain't seen before, shoot it!"

They say this was caused by a complaint. Given you have two conflicting tastes, I am curious as to why SW chose to take sides with 1 passenger over the other.
Last time I checked USA was a free nation..learn to tolerate others lifestyles/tastes. Most posts are from older generation women...times have changed and will keep changing forever...50 years ago one could not kiss on TV in bed, now thats so blaze....get with the times.....

Thank you Southwest Airlines for taking a stand on an issue that seems to becoming a symbol of our youth today. Yes, you are a "family" airline and you should be proud of that image. Schools fight daily with young ladies and young men dressing inappropriately and who think the dress code does not apply to them. Secondly, how you dress reflects on how well you perform your job. If you dress professionally, you work and are treated professionally. Imagine that young lady trying to apply for a job in that outfit in the business world (yes, I know she works at Hooters!!) Where are the family values? Where is the pride is dressing appropriately? As a teacher, I see too many of our young ladies dressing to "attract" attention from the opposite sex. I would be very interested in seeing how she really looked when she boarded the plane. I am 100% positive that she did not look the same as she was photographed on the Today Show. Again, I applaud your actions!!!!!

For Southwest to allow this type of episode to reach this level is ridiculous. How much bad publicity can you endure over such a trivial issue is beyond me. Suffice it to say, I will not be using Southwest airlines any longer, I have already spoken with my money and avoided your airline. You need to publicly apologize to this woman and move on.

I certainly plan to avoid flying Southwest until they correct this flawed dress code policy -- how ridiculous to try to enforce some subjective dress-code -- if a person has enough clothes on to make it through a public airport facility without getting arrested, then he/she has enough clothes to sit in a seat on an airplane lol

Bravo Southwest! It was apparent from her "exposure" on national TV that this is just another Paris wannabe! She tried pulling her skirt down...but all that did was show just how short it really was!

It's not a question of taste...it a question of profanity and pornography! She has a right to dress any way she wants...you have a right to remove anyone from your airline!

There should not be an exemption for skanks just because they look and dress like they'd do anyone in a heartbeat!

I am sorry she missed her appointment with her plastic surgeon though...but I'm sure with all the national attention she's gotten she should be able to swing a free boob job locally instead of having to commute for one!

I now have a new favorite airline!

Thank you Southwest for taking a stand on proper dress and behavior!

Shame on the mother for showing her face on national TV in support of the little tramp! I'd have more respect for her if she was a stripper or call girl..at least then she'd be getting paid!

Hmmm...a day trip...dressed like a slut...no luggage...meeting a Doctor...

Maybe she just forgot to change out of her work clothes for the flight?

With this second lady asked to "cover up" because she was wearing a dress that revealed a cleavage (oh my!), I can only wonder how many other right-wing evangelical Puritans have been recruited to work for Southwest. Why have no men been asked to dress appropriately? I have seen some in short-shorts with muscle shirts; some rather obese individuals dressed in clothing that reveals all of their "plumbing" and rolls (gross!) and have yet to see a customer service representative advise them to "dress appropriately." The proper response for Southwest would be to provide the CSRs involved to attend sensitivity and diversity training.

Is anyone actually surprised?

Airline customer service has become an oxymoron. I mean, air travel is stressful without the Ã

My feelings have been express by others in this blog, but I'll add my vote to the issue.

SWA can have any dress code or standards they feel is appropriate to their business image. Given that they should be a published and uniformly applied code that is available to customers and employees before tickets are sold.

That this situation has reached this level is ridiculous and very unprofessional of SWA (and they were doing so well in my book). The ladies embarrassed by their treatment from SWA employees deserve at the very least a huge public apology, free air travel would not be unreasonable, and I still would not blame them for bringing suit for public defamation by SWA.

You guys have blown it BIG time!
I thought you had more brains than this.
How many MILLIONS of dollars of revenue will be lost by assuming the role of morality police?
I just saw on the news that you did it AGAIN with a second young woman?
Are you guys NUTS (no pun intended) or what????

at least with an outfit like that you would nto have to worry about anything being concealed hat would be considered contraband. i think the whole thing was ridiculous and can not believe that the airline didnt have more pressing matters to worry about in preparation for a flight. i feel that her outfit was perfectly fine, would i wear the same thing, if i was 20 years younger and built like her, darn right i would

Who are you to judge a person's attire? You can have billboards in public busses with women in barely any attire, but you humiliated a woman because she was wearing perfectly reasonable attire for today's standards.
You can take you opinions about "ethical attire" and keep it to yourself,
You deserve to get sued for pushing your etical standards upon others... I for one and never flying your flight again! Long live freedom!

I just saw a video interview with the young lady who was asked to leave your plane because of her attire.

You gotta be kidding.

The woman's mother was absolutely correct when she said her daughter was dressed typically for any college student her age. No doubt about it. Had that young woman passed me on the street, I would never have noticed or given her a second look. I am baffled and dimayed that an AIRLINE is going to attempt legislate behavior and morality. Uh uh. Not in my world.

This is America. No way do I ever get on one of your planes if I can possibly avoid it.

Am I the only one old enough to remember the beginnings of Southwest Airlines? They brought many a customer to the ticket counter with their cutting edge and scandalous (at the time) of their mandatory "Hot Pants" dress code for all stewardesses. They were the new airlines with the new attitude. Fresh, irreverent at times but always tasteful if not in a tongue-in-cheek kind of way sometimes.

It seems their current moral compass and fashion police Nazi's have been infected with a large dose of self righteousness.

The two women accused of being provocativley dressed would have been the building blocks of a new Southwest Ad Campaign if Herb was still running things.

Herb.....we miss you!.......Chip

Just because so many women dress very provocatively these days and it's always in our faces doesn't mean it's acceptable to everyone or even welcomed. I am glad that Southwest Airlines took a stand on this issue. It's their airline and they can decide if something is inappropriate for their flights. She also has the freedom to use a different airline if she chooses. My family and I will happily support Southwest Airlines. I didn't see the interview but I find it absurd that SHE had the nerve to say SHE felt humiliated and embarrassed. Imagine how that man must have felt having to be put in such a situation because of the way she was presenting herself. I also found it sad that her mother said because all girls her age dress this way, that it's "fine" for her to dress that way. It's not "fine" for my daughter.

Take a look at your own company and what your flight attendants used to wear! "Butt-Skimming Miniskirts!" Get a life Southwestern! I used to work for PSA and know all about your skeletons! If I were that young woman, I would file a lawsuit against you and she is a fool if she doesn't.

By the way, you're running an airline, not a new religion.

Someone else posted (twice - under slighty different names) "I would think that the airlines would have more important things to deal with such as terrorists, crashes and drunk pilots than to worry about what someone was wearing."
Hmm...

Terrorists? Not this (or any other) airline's responsibility - there are government agencies who are supposed to handle this

Crashes? Have you checked the Southwest safety record v. other airlines?

Drunk pilots? Have you checked to which airline you are referring?

EXCELLENT DECISION! IF SOMEONE ASKES AN ATTENDENT TO TELL A CUSTOMER THAT THEY NEED TO ALTER THEIR ATTIRE IN ORDER TO BE MORE RESPECTFUL TO THEM AND THEIR CHILDREN, THEN GREAT! WHO NEEDS TO HAVE IMODEST WOMEN STRUTING AROUND THINKING THAT THEY DON'T INFLUENCE THOUGHTS OF MEN AND CHILDREN. NO ONE WITH ANY INTEGRITY WOULD WANT TO DEGRADE THEMSELVES THAT WAY. TEACH YOUR KIDS TO VALUE THEIR CAPACITY FOR GREATNESS AND THEY'LL FEEL FULFILLED. THEN THEY WON'T NEED PEOPLE TO STARE AT THEM IN ORDER TO GET SOME KIND OF SELF WORTH.

Thanks for setting a precedent. I appreciate you watching out for your other passengers, too.

I see from the blogs above that there are both negative and positive comments about the flight attendant's treatment of Kyla Ebbert. My personal opinion? Southwest Airlines should post a policy on what they consider proper dress code. Until they do, what anyone wears is none of their business. The flight attendants are being paid, through the obnoxious amount of costs that passengers have to pay to fly, to serve the customer. That's it. Nothing more. Pass around the pillows, offer the alcoholic beverages (so much for being a "family airline"), and whatever else is the job description of the flight attendant. Their personal opinion needs to be put aside. Let them laugh about it or comment on it with their peers and loved ones, and do NOT approach the customers about their attire. I will be watching closely the (hopefully) speedy plummet of SW Airlines stock. I imagine that not all passengers will abandon your company, however, I do hope that enough passengers will abandon your company to make a significant enough difference for you to look at this more deeply. I understand your need, in the business aspect, to back up your employee. All companies should initially back up their employees, however, in private, I believe that this particular employee should suffer reprimand, and might I add to his paycheck. If your company ends up losing him, well, then maybe you're not going to be missing much. It's okay to be conservative, it's okay to value your personal opinion. It's NOT okay to impose your personal beliefs when you are a member of the customer service industry ~ unless that customer is going to cause grave danger to the other passengers, leave them alone........

I want to know what the end game is here. If my shirttail is out, am I going to be told to tuck it in? Am I going to have to start declaring a religion before I can get on? I pay an airline to get me from one point to another, and not to be chastised, lectured, or parented on the way. If you want a certain type of client, post it boldly on your homepage, not behind some chicken move at the last minute at the gate like this.

Sure, her skirt may have been short, but she wouldn't be arrested on the street for it, and I have seen flight attendants show more cleavage than that girl did.

Get me from point A to point B on time and safely, with my luggage. That is what I expect and all I expect from an airline.

SW airlines - thanks for being professional, safe AND fun. When a passenger is disruptive, I appreciate the way you take action to ensure that one person's 'self-expression' doesn't threaten the safety and enjoyment of the majority of other passengers. I also appreciate that you are aware that families fly on your airline, as well as business professionals. There are appropriate places for peep shows. A airline flight is not one of those. Thank you for working to keep your flights open for the majority of your passengers. I will look for even more occassions that I can fly with SW.

Thank you SWA.
We will continue to fly with you 20+ flights a year

I was a devoted Southwest flyer. With the cheaper rates and good service, you have always been a great deal. In fact, I am a member of your rewards program. However, after now hearing about TWO girls that you have 'accosted' due to their attire, not only will I never fly your airline, niether will my family or anyone at my place of employment - since I make all travel reservations.

Another thing that is upsetting is the introduction to this blog. It's almost as is Southwest finds these complaints humorous and invites everyone to come see all the complaints and add one of their own.

Does this mean that I can wear my tank tops as this might pose a threat to exposing my male nipple?? Who is Southwest to determine what is appropriate and what isn't?? Sure, it's your business and airline and you have that say, but c'mon, I'll be that those who were offended have seen worse on a beach or yet just walking about a mall? Did they complain to the lifeguards and mall security. The next time I fly Southwest I will ask that anyone I find offensive be removed from the plane...and that in most cases would be one of your flight attendants. Would that be ok!!

Southwest, I hope you stand by the flight attendant's decision. It sadens me each day when clothing becomes more loose and revealing. Even ten years ago this skirt would have given most people the impression that the girl was a prostitute. And in my opinion, Hooters is only one and a half steps above that profession.

Hey, if it was okay to 'get it on' with anybody, anywhere, anytime, then that type of apparel would be necessary. Since there is still at least a weak moral fabric left in our country such skimpy dress is not okay. I am a father of a 2 and 1/2 year old son and will be greatly bothered, annoyed and saddened if and when he ever has to sit next to a girl dressed so innapropiately.

If I am ever presented with that dilema, he and I are going to take the next flight if Southwest or another airlines is unwilling to have her dress up to something more proper.

It seems that Southwest didn't learn from the first incident of this type and yet another flight attendant has decided to act as the "fashion police".

Southwest would do better to spend their time and efforts training their staff on customer service. I was on a Southern California to Las Vegas flight this week-end and encountered one of the rudest and most unhappy flight attendants I have seen in a long time. This individual scowled, snapped and was generally rude the entire flight. Several people remarked on the unhappy demeanor of this individual. Southwest - quit worrying about what your customers are wearing and work on your staff attitudes.

I'm sure the staff at southwest could give a crap what this girl was wearing. The interaction between her and the staff was probably due to customer complaints. Also, many of these comments are melodramatic. It is beyond ridiculous to accuse southwest of behaving like the taliban just because they ask some girl to cover up her crotch.

This is something ridiculous.

There is an US designer Marc Jacobs, who has models showing skirts at least as short as that of Ms. Ebbert. What could happen to somebody wearing such a fashion dress?

Besides, if the passenger would have been Ms. Paris Hilton or some of her girl friends, even better, should it have been Ms. Hilton accompanied by one of her girl friends, very probably demonstrating their feelings, nobody would have had anything to say because it is very fashionable such kind of behavior.

SWA is undoubtedly out of its mind.

Kathy, are you kidding? If your three daughters are being so isolated thast they can't even consider modern day clothes that are frankly appropriate and very tasteful and you think that an airline should help you be a parent you have deeper problems. Frankly you should consider moving moving to a Quaker community.

I am not goint to threaten not flying on SWA again, because it won't have any impact on a company tha is obviously lost the corporate culture that made them so sucessful. Frankly, they need to take employment action against an employee that made a very bad decision. A company that used to be considered as fun and carefree has definitely lost its way. I assume it was an overweight passenger with a few issues that won in that situation. I am certain it was not multiple complaints, just one, and your employee made what decision?

SWA, you have lost your way, Time to re evaluate.

Attributing the flight attendant's unprofessionalism to another passenger's complaint does not justify the inappropriate behavior of that employee or the company's subsequent response. We will not allow you to dictate what we can wear or cause us to feel shame for our personal tastes.

I may or may not agree that the young woman was dress modestly, but she was not out of the norm these days, and in fact showed less than many of the women I see each day at the local mall or restaurants. While she may have flashed the audience of the Today show, she was on a raised platform with a camera aimed directly up her skirt. That is a very different perspective from what she would have had on the plane. I have not heard yet if the flight attendant was responding to a complaint from another passenger, but if not, then they were particularly out of line. Now I see that this has happened again to another woman. Your are dangerously close to losing my business because of your puritanical attitudes. There had to have been a more discrete way to handle the situation, or better yet, leave her be.

The last thing I want my airline to do is to try and dictate our culture. I am more concerned about getting to my destination safely and on time. For better or worse, our world has become more sexualized and that is the fault of today's parents and media. If I wanted my preferred airline to start trying to change the world's culture I would give money to Pat Robertson so he could start up his own airline.

Frankly, I am irritated by this whole deal. I have been a faithful SWA customer for years. Even to the extent that I moved to a city that is not serviced by SWA but still drive 4hrs roundtrip for business trips! But if I have to keep hearing about this utter non-sense I will be less inclined to go out of my way.

I fly SWA for the punctuality and price, I got to church for my morality. IF these girls made all the way through security and past the numerous law enforcement officials then I don't really see the point. Unless of course they are nude or in a string bikini. So, come on Southwest let's get back to flying and away from the culture police.

I personally will not travel Southwest Airlines. They are not in the dress code business, but airline travel business. If a paying customer wants to wear a miniskirt on an airline that is their business. I seen a picture of the two ladies that have been subjected to Southwest's humiliation and find nothing wrong with the apparel. The clothes were in much better taste then Southwest's action. Stewartess use to wear similar clothes at one time.

Thank you Southwest, for standing up for decency and doing the right thing. My family and I are customers for life.

I cannot believe that an airline has the audacity to critique a passengers outfit let alone ask her to cover up. A family airline, I think not. If the passengers both were wearing a bikini then I would agree, but I have seen both outfits and though neither is something I would be comfortable wearing I certainly feel the airline has absolutely no right to proceed as it did. And, for the claim that it was another passengers complaint the led to the request to cover up, that passenger has no right either. I would like to know when it became the responsibility of people to be judge, jury, and executioner in assessing the attire of others. When will people learn to mind their own business? There are much, much bigger issues in the U.S. and worldwide that deserve our concern. Not peoples clothing.

Way to go . Now I know why I don't fly your P.O.S.airline.What next sweaters issued to all female fliers with a cup size bigger than 32a .Maybe they'll fly Delta .

Provocative attire has it's place. Unfortunately there is a large portion of our population that is unable to distingush where and when it is appropriate. Society will continue to compromise it's morals and values so long as no one objects. My hat is off to Southwest for drawing a line on this. I as a customer appreciate these actions and will continue to support Southwest by being a customer. As for the objections regarding the lack of a published dress code let your morals and values as well as your conscience be your guide. I hate to think that we as a people have to have everything spelled out for us in detail and that we no longer have the ability to determine right from wrong on our own. Hopefully society will being to object to the over use of spandex next!

Did anyone bother to actually watch the TODAY interview with Ebert? Most of the men who have posted here naturally approve of skimpy attire. You should go back and watch; you will get a nice flash of her crotch as she makes all efforts to sit back down in that very short skirt. It was plenty short enough to stand up in, much less try to sit in. Women like Ebert are desperate for any attention they can muster by wearing such clothing, then stupidly wonder why they are victims. They make themselves targets.

While some may enjoy the "eye candy", some are offended by it. I applaud Southwest for taking a stand.

We believe she was treated totally unfairly. Skirts are easier to fly in and with fantasic legs...why hide them. Southwest owes her a HUGE apology, and Free flying for a very long time! I am honestly worried about flying because majority of my friends and i all dress the same way....That guy needs a vacation aparently!

Southwest Airlines dress code:
No females under the age of 26 (id's will be checked) allowed unless wearing polyester pant suits or bolero dresses circa 1904.
No Hooters employees.
No females with a cup size over B unless they are overweight and wearing spandex.
No females that are prettier than other females that have an inferiority complex.
No girl scouts unless they are in the official boy scout uniform.
No females wearing tight jeans unless they are 3 sizes too small and are 50 lbs overweight.
Remember, Southwest prides itself as an organization that values other customers more than you. If you keep that in mind you won't be disappointed.
Taken and edited from the Customer Service section:
Again, the mission of Southwest Airlines is dedication to the highest quality of Customer Service (compared to flying a crop duster) delivered with a sense of warmth, (showing to much leg means you might be cold) friendliness (two faced), individual pride (I am better than you), and Company Spirit (Vague, means whatever benefits us at the moment). And, the information in this document is intended to show you that, regardless of the circumstances that may arise (get the heck off our plane) during your flight, we have already thought about your safety (Jealous women), your wellbeing (keeping you from being attacked by these women), your pocketbook (we value your money), and your expectations (you didn't really expect to fly with us did you?). You see, we are here not only to get you from point Ã

I just want to applaud Southwest for both incidents involving asking a female passenger to cover up while on board. While there are many arguments to be made, and valid ones at that, on both sides, the fact is that I, personally, appreciate any company that espouses itself as a family company and then supports that label with its actions. So thank you, and continue to stand by your values.

The girl stated that she was humiliated in a t.v. interview that I saw and she also stated that she had no problem on the return flight with her outfit. I am wondering why if she was so humiliated then why didn't she buy a pair of pants for the return flight? I am also reading alot of people on her side, but if it had been me, a 42 year mother of five wearing a get up like that, I'm sure the people in this country would be thanking Southwest airlines! I guess if you're young, blonde, and sexy it's okay to dress that way!

I think Southwest's treatment of Kyla and the other young girl was horrible. In my opinion, the fact that Southwest is trying to be the judge and juror of what is acceptable attire is much more offensive than the clothing the girls were wearing. Southwest also blew it by not appologizing for their employees poor judgement. I think the two girls who were humiliated by Southwest should receive a formal appology and be offered lifetime free airline tickets, however, if I was them I would never fly your airline again even if it was free.

I for one am extremely pleased that your company gave the boot to some tarted up lil hussy who had the nerve to dress like that on an airplane. Whatever happened to dressing up in suits and dresses for plane trips? Parents these days...I tell ya. That young lady is obviously misguided and needs better role models in her life...I hope you passed along that 700 Club pamphlet I routinely leave in the backs of airline chairs...that is one lost soul that desperately needs the guidance of the Lord and I sincerely wish Southwest Airlines the best as they continue to pass on the values that make this nation so strong and true. God Bless America...and no one else!

I recently heard about SW asking a woman to leave their plane because she was dressed in their opinion "inappropriately", and SW stating that they are family oriented, while still serving alcohol to their patrons on the plane. To the people who have the opinion that SW made the right call, because you have teenage daughters and feel that this wouldn't be appropriate for them to see - do you not let your children read magazines? or watch tv? Do you cover their eyes while in a store by a magazine rack so they won't see how some famous star is scantily clad - in your opinion?? Do you not feel that your child can make their own decisions on how to dress? Just because some dresses a way that you don't approve doesn't make that person bad, a skank, or a slut. There is nothing wrong with the way a person dresses and how dare anyone judge anyone for how they dress. I don't even live in the U.S., I'm a Canadian - and was absolutely appalled when I heard this on the t.v. this morning. SW should be ashamed of themselves, and should take a step back and look at themselves as a whole, because in my opinion your airline just lost a whole slew of frequent fliers. I hope that this young woman sues you for mistreatment and if she does I know I will be rooting for her.

I will NEVER fly your disgusting airline! The woman who your flight attendant harassed was NOT undressed!! What she was wearing is legal and legal should be all that matters. I am sure the person complaining was a FAT SOCCER MOM !!! Well I will take my $$ elsewhere, where I can dress as I please. SOUTHWEST=AMERICAN TALIBAN..you people probably should just pass out burqhas!!

I would like Southwest to answer one question. Why would the young lady be taken to the front of the plane and the embarassing situation addressed in front of the other passengers? It certainly could have been handled in a better way. You deserve to be sued because of your flight attendents stupidity.

What exactly is your problem? Are you some kind of Islamic owned company trying to impose your radical suppressive Sharia on the American public? I for one am offended by your impudent behavior. Look, despite your companyÃ

I think it's stunningly inappropriate for Southwest to comment in any fashion on a woman dressed in clothing comparable to what girls wear to the mall every day. Worse, the fact that Southwest employees feel empowered to take positions on these issues shows a deep corporate cultural problem. In any planeful of Americans, you can find some who object to some others' clothing, language, display or non-display of religious items, etc. It is not the carrier's job to serve as a proxy for passengers who are in some way offended by other passengers - you could easily spend 100% of your time doing that and not move a single passenger. It's an inappropriate rathole and highly unprofessional - that is absolutely not what I pay my airfare for.

As this blog shows, you discover a percentage of customers who want you to be the fashion police and a much larger percentage who do not. And given a way to anonymously complain about other passengers and have something happen, you can be sure that that disgruntled minority will enthusiastically use it, just as people call the police to complain about their neighbor cutting shrubs too early when they would be embarrassed to raise the issue directly. That is a role that an airline should not be in. The airline is not responsible for what passengers wear - or, rather, other airlines are not; Southwest appears to be enthusiastically plunging into that inappropriate role. Good luck on that trip; I sure don't want to be along for that ride.

Further still, the fact that Southwest corporate seems to back this line of decision up (other cases appearing, blog posts backing up your employees) is completely appalling.

For reference, although I live within 1.5 miles of Love and fly constantly on business, I would not and do not fly Southwest for reasons exactly like this. Yes, it really does cost you money.

Get rid of the person who stopped this young women from getting on the plane. Time for damage control. If the picture I saw in the paper was what she was wearing when she boarded the plane then Southwest you are in the wrong. Look on the Internet polls are showing 77 to 78 percent in favor of Kyla. A lawsuit will happen and you will not win even if you win. At a time when other airlines are trying to knock you off the top postion, it is time to step up and end this matter.

Oh Southwest... I'm sorry to see my fun, easy-going friend grow up into a boring, conservative, stuffy adult. Enjoy your old age Southwest. Hope you can hang onto your old friends... looks as though you might be too cranky and anti-social to make new ones.

I think what they did was completely appropriate. The girl isn't as attractive as her mother claims, she has about as much meat on her as a clock does. Secondly, this person is probably trying to change the world and get it back to women being admired for their beauty, instead of them being known for being a tramp like this chick. Wake up girl, your not all that. She has clearly shown she was no respect for herself. She dresses like a skank, AND is a hooters waitress. If I had to be in the same plane as her, especially if my son was with me, I would report her asap. No one wants to see her nasty body. Maybe the girl should learn to get some taste. What was her excuse, did she want to get a lower bill from her doctor? Maybe once she starts respecting herself, she will get respect. Her and thousands of other women, have ruined the thoughts on women today. If you don't want to be thought of as a slut, COVER IT UP!

Wow Ms. Dulier - think about this for one moment. If everyone in the world was blind what would it matter what you wore everyday? People should not be judged on what they where but for who they are inside. Get over your view on women that dress more provocative then others as being viewed as a skank. I dress that way myself and I have 2 children, am married and hold a job. So does that make me a skank because I choose to dress differently than you? I would think not.

You did the right thing Southwest Airlines!!! If you are going to be in a very public place sitting in tight quarters with one another, you need to be modestly dressed. Not to mention, what if there had been an emergency? Could she bend over to help open doors or help out in anyway she needed to without flashing everyone in her path? That skirt might even hinder her because its tight around her legs. You never know people. Better to dress appropriately.

This issue is not about being fashion police people. Its about saftey.

Good job southwest!

I can't understand why 90% of the people posting here (on both sides!) appear to believe that Kyla's public account of events is correct and complete. Where is everyone's healthy skepticism? You people are feeding the stereotype that Southwest's customers are a cut below, intellectually speaking.

Southwest's virtually complete silence hasn't helped. Southwest needs to overrule its lawyers here and vigorously defend its policies and its front line employees who enforce those policies. Otherwise those employees will be unwilling to deal with embarrassing situations of all sorts, notably Customers of Size.

Here's another aspect of the story that leads me to be skeptical: Kyla admits that the conversation took place in the jetway, not on the aircraft. She claims that passengers could hear it.

I don't believe that the Southwest employee would speak loudly enough to be heard from the jetway. There's absolutely no reason to raise one's voice, and employees never yell at customers, ever. If anyone's voice was heard by passengers in the aircraft it would have been Kyla's. Whose fault is that, exactly?

Don't be so quick to judge....the girl had not problem showing her white under garments on national TV (Today Show)....plus to get a better idea of her character take a look at her myspace.com page:

http://72.14.209.104/search?q=cache:http://www.myspace.com/PrincessKyla

She has no problem showing the entire internet communitie her underwear, so a reasonable person would deduce that she would have problem showing a enter Southwest flight her underwear.

Southwest did the right thing.....Dress appropriately to get on a public flight and there would be no problem.

Looks like Southwest is creating a very difficult situation for themselves. The decision that was made by the supervisor is obviously a subjective one. This was the opinion and judgement call of one person. How can you make a judgement call about this when their are no written standards to go by? On her return trip there wasn't one supervisor who reprimanded her for her attire. HMMM...sounds like Southwest needs to be consistent. This is certainly a great example of the airlines not having consistent standards...rather just subjective judgement calls. Appropriateness is in the eye of the beholder. If you don't agree with that, then just read all the varying opinions written in the blogs. The decisions being made by airline employees regarding approppiateness of ones attire have to be justified by a written dress code. If the airline doesn't want to write and enforce a written dress code, then certainly don't allow and stand behind your employees to make judgement calls based around their own personal tastes and standards. Different generations and backgrounds see appropriate dress in very different ways. Its quite obvious that Southwest needs to decide to be consistent one way or the other. Hundreds and thousands of customers get on the planes everyday dressed in this way and these other passengers haven't been reprimanded...why this particular girl? Oh, thats right because the airline doesn't have clear written standards and are allowing employees to make subjective judgement calls based around their own personal likes and dislikes. Southwest... lets just be consistent and concrete about dress policy...then you won't have so much controversy the next time around. Come on..you execs. are smarter than this..aren't you? Personally, I think until the airline comes up with written and consistent standards, you owe this young lady an apology for targeting her and not the next person who boarded in similar fashion the day before or even tomorrow. Southwest passengers...look around you next time you're on board...we can all find someone on the flight who might be a little scantilly clad or even for that matter...... the guy sitting next to you may be showing too much chest hair. But then again thats a matter of personal and cultural tatste. Should they all be kicked off the flight and be reprimanded as well? Southwest....be CONSISTENT..please.
Cheryl

Thank you, Southwest.
I don't much care about this girl's feelings, or her mother's opinion.
Some people actually still have morals, and are not interested in this girl's free anatomy lesson.
Yeah, I watched her on television, and guess what? Her white underwear was available for all the world to see when she stood up. I've got my own underwear to worry about, and wish everybody else would keep theirs to themselves.
And now we have another half-wit griping about being asked to cover up. Well, girls, put some clothes on before you leave the house, and you won't have to worry about it. Just because other people are running around with their asses hanging out doesn't mean it's the right thing to do.
Again, thank you, Southwest. More power to you!

Although SWA doesn't fly to Alaska, so I have no choice to choose a different airline to fly on, I can however choose a different airline to invest in. Did Herb have any input on the decision of not to appologize to this woman? I as a former stock holder do appologize for the embarrasment caused by this incident.
I do agree that you have the right to refuse service to anyone, but is it right to do so in a case such as this?

I find it funny that people compare this to a "religious" issue or compare southwest to a terrorist group. This issue is FAR from religious or a terrorist plot. i think those people just like hearing themselves talk.

A couple of points:
1) Like any other news report, its all about the spin. If you look at still photos of her standing there, you can clearly see the following:
- Her skirt is barely longer than her relaxed hand. Unless she has hands the size of Andre the Giant, chances are her skirt was not very long.
- On the Today show, she was wearing the skirt FAR below her hips/waist. You can see where her "love handles" end, an indication of where her hips are. The skirt is far below that point.
- The shirt that she had on was a "long" tshirt, thus it APPEARED that the skirt was being worn in the correct place
- If the skirt was being worn on her hips as it should be, you would have seen the bottom of her rear end.

2) As stated above, I would not want someone's bare behind sitting on the seats. Good thing the seats are leather now and not cloth.

3) While not a direct influence on this event, she is a waitress at Hooters and has some rather revealing pictures on her myspace account. It shows that she has very few inhibitions when it comes to clothing.

4) The airplanes are a place of business, not your house. Someone stated, "if you can wear it in public, you can wear it on an airplane." I dont see too many people wearing bikinis while on board. I dont see many people going without a shirt. It is clearly written in the Contract of Carriage that Southwest can ask a passenger to adjust their attire if it is found to be lewd/offensive/inappropriate.

5) To those who said Southwest used hot pants and go-go boots back in the 70's. Those hot pants did not show the rear end.

Absolutely ridiculous. If the laws-of-the-land do not consider the outfit to be indecent, who are you to say it is indecent. You are an airline, not a social critic.

BRAVO Southwest! I want to buy airline tickets just so that I can support Southwest. I had begun to wonder if there was any public place left where decency could be the norm for my young son's eyes to see, instead of the exception. The astonishing publicity this woman has recieved as she proudly reveals her outfit to all of America and the world makes it clear to me that she really is not very embarrassed at all. She should be thanking Southwest for her 15 minutes of fame.

OK, Southwest, you can't have it both ways -- i.e., be supportive of an employee who verbally stated what amounted to some sort of patron dress code and yet you refuse to put in writing something for patrons to read. Put it IN WRITING so it is unequivocal to your customers. Frankly, you appear cowardly for endorsing your employee's behavior while not being willing to state the terms of what IS appropriate dress on one of your airplanes. PUT IT IN WRITING and let the market decide if it seems reasonable -- this would also dispel all uncertainty in people who are worried about booking flights with you.

It seems the Southwest fashion police have struck again.Thank God nobody saw a little cleavage or thigh.Maybe on future flights they can hand out burkas or whatever the islamics force on women.Congratulations Southwest you should be proud of yourselves.

Southwest owes this young lady an apology. For the flight attendant to confront her in earshot of the other passengers is not the way to share a passenger's concern with another.

I'm glad I fly out of Knoxville, TN and don't have to work hard to avoid Southwest but I would.

JP

Standing in line behind (BEHIND) women who expose themselves everytime they bend over reminds me of some of the info I gleamed in my college psych class. If your self esteem is so low that you dress to solicit a sexual response to get things in life, then you aren't far from a padded room or at least a life time of being the punch line in jokes thrown around in locker rooms. I want my children to stand up for themselves as serious citizens, not try and get by because I can flash myself in public and participate in lewd, offensive, and inappropriate behavior. Thank you Southwest!

Thank you so much for standing up for modest dress on your airlines. I for one am very grateful. I am so tired of seeing parts of the female anatomy that should be left to the marriage of a man and a woman. I saw the young women who appeared on The Today Show, her skirt was so short that when she stood she had to pull it down and when she sat back down I could see her white panties. I don't think anyone, especially children, should be subjected to seeing body parts. I fly Southwest and will continue to fly and hope that you will now set a dress code and follow it to the tee. The young women who was in the green dress and asked to cover up, first should not have worn and second should just have complied. Please continue checking and help get the morals back in line the grace on WOMEN. We should remember Jacquline Kennedy and others who dressed so elegantly. Don't let anyone force you to back down or apoloize for your beliefs.

Regardless of how she was dressed there is clearly not a dress code requirement for Southwest Airlines. If the airline had a problem with her attire then it should have been adressed to her prior her boarding the plane. Who made the steward judge and jury as to how a person should be dressed. Southwest clearly blew. I will no longer fly an airline that will humiliate its customers like that.

Who gave your MALE employee the right to set dress code on your airline??? If I was the Piolet in charge of that flight I would have got out of my seat and THREW off the employee for insulting a paying customer. It sounds like the employee prefers MEN then WOMEN dressed in proper atire. I hope she SUE'S the pants off of your company and the employee.

KUDOS TO SOUTHWEST FOR THEIR HIGH STANDARDS AND FOR HAVING THE DECENCY TO EXPECT OTHERS TO BE DECENT.
PEOPLE LIKE KYLA (HMMM...SHE DOES 'BARE' A RESEMBLANCE TO PARIS) SHOULD NOT BE GIVEN THE TIME OR ATTENTION BY OUR SUBSTANDARD MEDIA (WHICH IS JUST A BIG PART OF THE CORRUPT ENTERTAINMENT INDUSTRY).
I HOPE SOUTHWEST DOESN'T BACK DOWN AND FIGHTS THIS ALL THE WAY. IF YOU LOSE THOSE CUSTOMERS THAT SEE NOTHING WRONG WITH SUCH ISSUES, THEN THE REST OF US CAN TRAVEL COMFORTABLY WITH FAMILY AND FELLOW RESPECTABLE PATRONS. EVERYONE WILL WANT TO FLY SOUTHWEST!

Southwest should not be the moral authority on dress attire. I am tired of airline staff imposing their own social standards and morals upon their passengers. Delta wouldn't allow a woman to nurse her child on the plane because she was "indecent" and now SW is allowing its staff to lecture and humiliate a woman because they think they have the right to impose dress standards. The only way I will ever fly on SW again is if they fire "Keith" and make a public apology to this woman. Otherwise I will take my business elsewhere.

where do you get off thinking that you can tell someone to rearrange her clothing, especially if there's nothing wrong with it?!! shouldn't you be worrying about terrorists and hijackers?!! i'll make sure to never fly southwest again!! have you ever seen any of the young girls walking around on the street in basically nothing? well, obviously you haven't!! you seriously need to apologize. and don't expect to be getting many customers after this. southwest, YOU SUCK!!!!

This is the most ridiculous thing I have ever read. Apparently another person was reprimanded for wearing "sexy" clothing today? These girls had clothing that was a little skimpy, but not out of the ordinary for today's fashion. The second girl, especially, only showed a little cleavage. I will not be flying on Southwest anymore. I don't want to feel like I am back in grade school, lined up against the wall with my hands to my sides, making sure my skirt touches the end of my fingertips. Southwest should realize they are a business and not the modesty police. Who cares what young girls wear anyway? If you don't like it, don't look at it!!

SWA may be right....but you still look like morons. I've been flying SWA since the days of hot pants & free whiskey and you're starting to show signs of stress...Dowdy flight attendants, Yankee attitudes, less service. What ever happened to the good ole days? !!

The Kyla incident provided free media exposure, but what a price you're going to pay. It's time to save face with more free media exposure that will do some good...A PUBLIC APPOLOGY & A FREE RIDE FOR A YEAR and hopefully you won't have to hire more attorneys.

Working in customer service myself I know the last thing I want to do is have a confrontation with a customer. I'm sure the FA didn't exactly want to confront the girl about her clothes. FAs are paid by flight hour so the more time they spend piddling around on the ground the less money they make. Having to take the time to have a 1 on 1 with a customer regarding an outfit is a waste of time. That being said, the FA had to have responded to another customer complaint about Kyla's outfit. When passengers complain/have issues with another customer, Southwest has to respond (word has it too, that she wasn't wearing any underwear) They at first asked her to change clothes and then they made a compomise and told her to adjust her outfit. If the FA had not of confronted Kyla then the customer who made the initial complain would be ticked. Southwest did the right thing, this girl is just making a scene for the publicity and money. The incident happened over 2 months ago why are we hearing about it now?

Southwest needs to issue an immediate apology to the woman in question, as well as all of their customers, past and present. If they do not, and refuse to back down from the position they have taken on this issue, I hope that this woman sues the airline for refusing service to her for an extremely arbitrary and prejudicial reason. If that's the course of action the airlne intends to follow, then shame on them and I hope that millions of passengers choose another company for their business and/or recreational flight needs.

I encourage everyone to boycott the airline now to show Southwest how ridiculous their recent actions have been. At present I am instructing my company's travel department to remove Southwest from our list of preferred airlines. I encourage others in similar corporate positions to do likewise.

Southwest airline is not fashion police, Let Ban Southwest and see how long they stay in business before filing backrupt, The the general Public please do not buy ticket from Southwest Airline, As far as the Dallas/ Fort worth Area let bring American Airline back to Dallas Love Field and force Southwest out of business.

If Southwest have a dress code please place it on your website so that passengers can review it before Purchasing a ticket on Sothwest . All of the rules ( Including but not limited to Southwest DRESS CODE)should be posted on tickets as well as on internet site.

If the girls who appared on t.v. were dressed exactly the same as they were when they boarded the plane then whoever complained overreacted. If the first girl wasn't wearing underwear then they did the right thing. If it was an overreaction on the part of a customer, then the flight attendant should have offered to reseat the complainer.
Speaking of overreacting, what's up with all these haters that say they'll never fly SWA again?? That is stupid! SWA typically has the lowest fares, and the Rapid Rewards program is awesome. All of you all will be back, sooner or later, so get over it.
Keep up the good work, but don't let your flight attendants arbitrarily remove people from flights for their dress... If you have to, develop a policy that is in line with current fashion trends and enforce that.

You are totally wrong. Lacking a posted written dress code, you cannot arbitrarily pick and choose which passenger's attire is "appropriate" or "inappropriate." To do so violates the Freedom of Speech/expression and Equal Protection sections of the US Constitution. The only exception might (and I emphasise - might) be if a passenger's attire clearly and openly displayed male or femal genitals.

I have often seen a nursing mother on SW flights displaying a lot more of her breast than the young woman you tried to deboard. I have seen men with very open tank tops displaying a lot more chest than the young woman you tried to deboard.

As far as SW being a "family" airline; what do you think the other airlines are? I have never been asked if I had a family on SW, Alaska, NW, United, TWA, Western, Continental, Pioneer, or any other airline. No other airline, to my knowledge, has a dress code other than the common law protections against public displays of genetalia.

Who do you think you are? The US Taliban? This is exactly the kind of think you might expect in Saudi Arabia or Afghanistan.

You can be sure I will never fly on SW again unless you issue a personal and public appology, admit your error, promise to behave yourselves in the future.

Anyone who encourages anyone else to sue for having their feelings hurt is a MORON. Lawsuit abuse is what drives up the price of everything from our insurance, to our doctor bills to the price of our airline tickets!!! Get a life people!

If her genitalia were exposed in public, violating laws in California or Arizona, than SW should say as much and I am sure public opinion would turn. For now we can assume she didnÃ

While I don't exactly approve of the outfit worn by the girl, I don't think you can single someone out like that when it wasn't leud and there is no warning about what is "appropriate" flight wear for a "family airline". I fly SW all the time and have seen many outfits that could compare. I have never experienced this behavior on one of your flights before.

I don't understand SW letting this become as public as it has. It makes SWA look ridiculous. I have always stood by SWA as I think they are one of the best airlines around, but this is beyond me.

It does appear that you have alienated quite a few people, but in my case, I guess there might be more RR seats available for me to choose from!!!!

I suggest a more mature approach...hand the poor girl a blanket and tell her to cover up. That is humiliation enough and she wouldn't have been on the Today show making SWA look like a bunch of idiots.

I was absolutely disgusted with SWA's treatment of one of their passengers recently. Get off your high horses and do your jobs. Policing passengers' clothing IS NOT A FLIGHT ATTENDANT DUTY!!!!!!! Never mind if someone else says they are offended, that is their problem, you know you have more important things to do while boarding an airplane. You should be thankful to have a customer who opts to fly your sad airline so frequently. Keep singing and telling jokes, maybe you can all have a laugh when this you lady sues the PANTS off you!

The young girl (notice I did not use "Young Lady" to describe her) was asking for trouble by wearing a very short mini-skirt. She wanted to attract the attention other people and should not complain about how it became a humiliating situation for her.

Also, I would like to see the video from the Airport's security cameras to see exactly how short she wore her skirt and top that day..

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I think SW airlines did the right thing regading this girl. What I'm amazed at is that a parent would SUPPORT a daughter wearing such a revealing skirt. Short is okay, but when she has to pull it down constantly to make sure it's in "just the right place" and use a magazine to cover herself while sitting is sad. Don't get me wrong, as a male I don't mind the scenery at all, but when I ask myself if I respect someone dressed in such a manner, the answer is no. The "hottest" women are those who are not only attractive, but smart and professional in their dress and conduct.

I just want to say I am very disappointed with the decision of southwest b/c another passenger was unable to maintain self control. This person that complained is the one that should have been kicked off the plane, people like this should not be allowed in closed public settings b/c they are a danger to society, likely to be a sexual predator. People like this need to seek professional help.

Southwest's concern should be SAFETY NOT FASHION!

She didn't pay for a fashion adviser, she paid for a plane ticket. People don't pay money to be publicly ridiculed like that poor girl! Had there been a dress code in place this young woman could have had a guideline to follow and this whole mishap would have been avoided. SW's failure to have one in place is their fault and this young woman was humiliated b/c of it.

And what right does SW have to complain when they once dressed their flight attendants in outfit similar if not more inappropriate. *Freaking Hypocrites*!!!!

I have flown SWA many times but after this I will never fly on your airlines again. I thought we lived in a country where we could choose what we wear and where we wear it. The flight attendant was totally out of line and if another passanger had a problem with her attire "she" should have spoken to the young lady. I have been treated horribly by rude flight attendants employed by SWA. They last time I flew SWA I had to endure the horrible singing by one of your male attendants trying to be funny and singing his own version of "She'll be coming around the mountain", he needed to keep his singing to his shower. Guess I'll return to AA or United where I know I'll be treated with respect.

Well, it looks like Southwest has been busy getting most of the clips about their early 1970's commercials featuring their flight attendants dressed in hot pants removed from youtube, aol video, etc., etc. I'm sure more will keep popping up though over the next few days while this story is in the news and all I can say to that is....good. What a bunch of hypocrites they are by trying to defend the actions of this rude and invasive flight attendant.

I hope they leave this post up as it contains the link to one clip that is still up and running as I write this:
http://www.truveo.com/Southwest-Airlines-commercial-circa-1972/id/292399...

I just have to respond to the many people who have complained that SWA is infringing this woman's constitutional rights. Please review your 9th grade civics books or any copy of the Bill of Rights: the First Amendment right of free expression only applies to restrictions placed on speech by the Government, not by a private entity such as SWA. Congress can't pass laws that infringe on free speech or expression. Private companies can, and do, enact numerous restrictions on "expression" such as dress codes. Similarly, a private company doesn't violate a citizen's rights under the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment (or the Due Process Clause of the 5th Amendemtn) by treating her differently than another similarly situated person. A violation of the EPC would occur if a state government denied a person the right to vote becuase of her race; a private company such as SWA does not violate the Equal Protection Clause if it prevents a scantily clad woman from boarding a flight but allows a similary dressed man to do so.

You could look it up.

I was not on the aircraft during this incident, but having been exposed to "young ladies" (puhleeze) wearing such skimpy attire in public, I know what happens when someone tries to sit down or bend over when wearing such a short skirt... If I were a passenger subjected to "crotch shots" and ass peek, I would certainly voice my displeasure to the individual wearing the inappropriate item(s) as well as the nearest flight attendant. If the flight attendant had to say something to the nice young lady about what she was wearing, I'm sure it was warranted.

Southwest - I applaud your actions! Thank you for considering other passengers' comfort!

In my many years in the travel industry, I have never seen an airline treat a passenger's dress, in such a disgusting manor. Southwest's total disregard for it's passengers is evident in the 2 incidences reported. management should have immediately apologized to the 2 young ladie, offering them both free r/t tickets for 1 year, reprimand the Southwest flight attendants involved, making them attend mandatory cutomer service refresher courses. Aren't airlines in business to fly passengers? United Airlines' flight attendent got it right - they were more concerned about flight safety, then customer dress. What is crazy is that 99.9 people would say they were very well dressed for college girls in the very hot southwest United States.

Southwest, when you get it right, we will fly you again, but never again until you take positive action to our satisfaction.

I think any business should have the right to decide what is appropriate for their company. This is a business. If she doesn't like their rules, she can take her business elsewhere. I know many a restaurant that have dress codes and no one is screaming when they're refused service.

I generally fly SW when ever I can. I am not sure I will any longer. It's not that I agree with the dress styles of today or lack of common sense by individuals about their attire. I am also very glad that my children are all grown and I do not have to fight those 'appropriate dress' battles any longer. Dressing for 'respect' for oneself is a value taught or learned the hard way-by their peers.

What question that does come to mind is why SW Airlines feels that they have been sanctioned to be the fashion police of the skies. Yes, they can set their own standards for their business. Any business has a right to do that and it is ethical to do so. However when I try to think what SW's motive may be to make an issue of these women's clothing, ethics does not come to mind. OWNERSHIP of the airlines does come to mind. Let's say that your owners were Muslims and wanted all women to be covered from head to toe. I can see where you may take action to cover these women up with a blanket. Who exactly does own SW? Should you now be called South Western Arab Airlines?

Where may I find out who really owns SWA?

As much as I enjoy flying Southwest Airlines, I have to say that the flight attendant blew this one. Where do we stop, I find when a woman sitting next to me wearing a half a bottle of perfume to be offensive, would you have that person removed. Probably not. With that said you would have most likely asked the person to sit in another seat away from the passenger that is being offended. The same is what should have happened here. I understand that the person was allowed to fly after she covered up. I my mind it was too late when the over zealous employee humiliated the passenger who remember is your "customer" also. I have seen much less on people flying a Southwest flight and no one bats an eye. Flight attendants main job is for the safety of the passengers not to be a critic on "Americas Next Top Model" I hope you have learned your lesson Southwest.

Oh by the way the customer deserves an apology and a couple of free flight sounds like she flies you frequently. In these days of dwindling profits it would be in the company's best interest to apologize and do some sensitivity training with your flight attendant.

Having worked for an airline many years ago, I always dressed in a professional way while flying as I felt it made an impression of my professional self. Unfortunately, over the years the way people dress when they fly is totally ridiculous and I feel like I am riding a bus line..not an airline.
It seems like the passenger that was asked to do something different about the way she was dressed was obviously wanting everyone to look at her and go google eyed over her. Not a pleasant sight. There are a lot prettier women out there who dress very classy and elegant....she looked rather "cheap" in my opinion. She needs to get a grip and learn how to dress more appropriately in the general public. I support Southwest all the way!!!!!

I read an article about a woman who was asked to leave a Southwest plane because she was dressed provocatively. I wonder if she had been a middle eastern man who looked suspicious would they have asked him to leave? Here we are 6 years after 9/11 and people who dress poorly and children are being stopped yet the very people who tried to blow up this country roam freely.

To those that have posted that are savvy on the NYSE, does this mean that since Miss Ebert went public with her private parts that she can now trade on the NYSE?

As a business I believe you have a right to do what you did in this incident it is your Airline. It is time that the general public learn that they have a responsibility to decorum We in America enjoy freedom we can do whatever we please but only up to the point our actions have a negative impact on others freedom. A young woman whose breasts or bottom is hanging out of her clothes is offensive to me. Yes I am a red blooded American Male I just like to have something left to the imagination. I find her behavior to be just as offensive as a foul mouth drunk. I have seen many businesses that have signs saying Ã

Americans are FED UP with all these little dictators telling us what to eat, smoke, drink...tell us we can't say Merry Christmas or have a Christmas Tree, and now SOUTHWEST is telling Americans what they can wear? Well, this is one American that will never fly Southwest and will make sure my friends and family never fly Southwest either. Virgin America out of the Bay Area will be my Airline of choice from now on. Ya know, we have sons and daughters fighting for OUR FREEDOM and people like you are attempting to take them away. This has a real bad smell, is the ACLU putting pressure on you on behave of CAIR?

It really doesn't matter what Kyla was wearing. Southwest crossed the line. If they are going to enforce a dress code, it needs to be posted on their website, at their ticket office and ticket counters. Are they going to make all customers kneel on the ground and only allow them on the airplane if the skirt touches the floor? They should not allow individual employees to make the decision as to who is "dressed accordingly". Where do they draw the line when someone complains that the man sitting next to them has a shirt that has rode up to his armpits and his beer belly is hanging out? Where do they draw the line when someone complains that the man sitting next to them smells like he hasnt showered in a week? Will they take him up to the front of the airplane and say you can fly later, after you use a bar of soap, which you can buy at the gift shop. Will Southwest allow it's employees to decide whether a man in a turban is allowed to fly because it is offensive to some of the customers. It is discrimination!
It doesn't matter who or why. Southwest is discriminating against the freedom of choice. It is just wrong. Southwest really screwed up this time.

Give the two women a free flight and fire the self-righteous guys who told them to cover up. It's the least they deserve. We don't ride on Southwest to be lectured about how we should return to the 1950s and dress and act like June Cleaver. Hey, wasn't that the time when the stewardesses wore hot pants as a uniform?

You people are too stupid for my business. If a flight attendant can come this conclusion about this girl's dress. I can only guess what you would hire as a pilot. What I think actually happened was your flight attendant was pissed of at Southwest and decided to make this call to hurt your business. Looks like it worked. Kinda like a "sick-out".

I have been a faithful Southwest flyer and Rapid Rewards member for many years, and have long argued that other airlines would be better served if they followed your lead. The recent imbroglio regarding Southwest employees policing the dress of your pasengers has led me to reconsider flying on Southwest going forward.

Unfortunately, I am constrained to conclude that you permit or encourage the arbitrary imposition of undocumented "fashion" regulations on paying passengers whose appearance apparently didn't alarm a gate agent and whose attire has not been suggested to be unreasonable until declared so by...a flight crew??? That's just silly. You're going to lose a lot of loyal customers if you allow this to continue.

I'm amazed by all the demands for published dress code, as if you need a dress code to tell you it is inappropriate to expose yourself in public. Y'all can't really be that dense, can you?

Southwest has a open policy of granting there employeeÃ

You have got to be kdding me about Setara Qassim (Tucson to San Diego flight that was asked to cover up). If Setara was wearing that green dress, Southwest's dress code for her is inappropriate (nothing that revealing). Smart dressing for safety, no, but not lewd that she was singled out and made to cover up.

Kyla is a definite yes to covering up when one could have seen her panties when she sits down but Setara is going way overboard.

Maybe it's time to quit letting 50-70 year old people at SWA make the decision and let someone in their 20's who know modern fashion and trends make more reasonable decisions about dress.

It's even time to do a PSA or reminder to passengers about how to dress for safety while in flight (some of the current fashion out there would make it harder to evacuate a plane in case of emergency). People need to learn to dress smart for safety, not necessarily for fashion. Go to the hotel at the destination or change in an airport restroom at your final destination and put on your short skirts and low-chest coverage tops if you must.

How on earth did Southwest survive the 1980's if they are trying to kick off passengers for wearing mini skirts??!!

This is unbelievably ridiculous and to make matters worse, Southwest has refused to apologize!!! Suck it up and do damage control, because people have been sued (and won) for much weaker cases. In yours, not only is it a strong case, but you even admitted to it publicly.

A little humble pie goes down much easier than the amount of money and bad press you're wasting.

Thank you for enforcing the law with regards to indecent exposure. I am tired of women claiming that dressing to arouse men is empowering. When a person is in a public place, the rights of the many outweigh those of the few, especially when those "rights" the few claim flout the law. I will fly Southwest in the future.

Regarding the comment left by Bob that included "...Yes I am a red blooded American Male I just like to have something left to the imagination." I believe the personal description should have been more on the order of , Yes I am a red blooded American Male CHAUVINIST. The woman is free to dress to please herself, not you. She is not our property.

As a lawyer and law professor, let me comment: An airline is a common carrier, a public utility obliged to transport all comers. The victim of this discrimination should consider filing suit against the airline, and at the very least should complain to the Federal Aviation Administration. This is an outrage.

Restaurants have shirt and shoe requirements.Why can't airlines have dress codes to preserve the dignity of the passengers?

Yea for Southwest. I for one will begin trying to have more of my trips booked on Southwest Airlines. Who in the world wants to sit beside men or women dressed for the beach? The hollywood crowd have demeaned women for so long we begin to think it is normal to dress like this.

Keep up the great work SouthWest. Finally an airlines who dosent put up with the immoral actions of the young people today. Yes, you at one time allowed your staff to dress unappropriate,but have since changed that and became wiser. I applaude your CEO and anyone else who stands behind the decision made by that person. We need to stop this kind of behavior, especially on a family airline. What are we teaching our children if we allow this kind of behavior and it is then rewarded with publicity and fanfare. Then instead of keeping her mouth shut and going about her business, she knows that if she opens her mouth to the media she will get noticed. So of course the media as corrupt as it is today eats it up and makes a big ugly picture of it, making her the victim and your airlines as the predator. What about the rest of us who find this appauling and unexceptable? Do we have any rights at all ? This woman can dress anyway she wants but not on an airline with mixed people , both cultural and religious and young children. We as American Women shoud be showing how strong we are and demanding respect from the men in this world. Not using our bodies and media to exploit our insecurities. if you are as strong and intellegent as these women I would hope are, you dont need to present yourself like this. Where is the self-esteem and self-respect in the younger women today? What more can we expect from the media today. But I wouldnt have thought much of SouthWest if they had allowed this to happen. My husband and young family fly alot on both this airline and alot.. I have the utmost respect for this airline and will continue to fly them and recommend them to anyone I talk with. Even more now. My family and I want to fly on an airline that we know we can trust and that they respect us , just as they did to this young lady who thought she could do what she wanted and get away with it. You see, this lady could care less what she wore on that flight, she had heard about the first lady and wanted to make a statement, make herself prove a point. If she respected herself and her beliefs she would have gone about it another way. And if she respected the company she worked for she would have dressed in a more appropriate way when in the company of others and children and represented herself and the company she works for in a better manner.Simple as that...As it says in the Bible, "A woman shall dress modestly, with decency and propriety " . What kind of an example are we as women showing our young children if we allow ourselves to be the center of this kind of attention. This poor girl shows that she needs alot of attention and for some reason uses her sexuality to get it. Keep up the good work SouthWest, standing your ground in this matter and any other pertaining the safety and moral protection of your passengers will be rewarded as you go about your journey to make your airline a FAMILY Airline...God Bless you and your staff....As many write you to say they wont fly your airlines, many others will stand behind you to keep your airlines a respectable and enjoyable traveling experience...Thank you..

I think it is great that SWA asked the girl to cover up. As a fater of 2 teenage children, I appreaciate SWA's actions.

Southwest's treatment of Kyla Ebbert was outrageous! I saw Ms. Ebbert in her outfit on the Today Show and she looked like nearly every other 17-25 year old young lady in this country! What was so scandalous about her attire? Why was it necessary to embarrass her in front of a plane full other passengers? Shame on you, Southwest!

My significant other and I currently have to live over 600 miles apart and as a result regularly fly SWA (at least monthly if not bi-monthly) to see each other. We've spent thousands of dollars on SWA airline tickets. After hearing this story I am one seriously dissatisfied SWA customer.

I have two words for you SouthWest Airlines: Jetblue and Skybus. My partner and I will take our money elsewhere.

If you dress the way Kyla was dressed you attract the wrong attention. This outfit, in no way, says that she is an intelligent or classy person. This outfit said "Everyone should see my underwear and anything else I can show". If I had been seated next to her with my son I would have asked to have been moved. Why can't women realize that dressing this way does not get you ahead it only demeans you.

I APPLAUDE SWA FOR TAKING A STAND AGAINST FEMALES WHO DRESS LIKE PROSTITUTES ON FAMILY AIRLINES. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK. TOO LONG HAVE WOMEN TRAVELLED WITH THEIR SECONDARY SEXUAL CHARACTERISTICS SPILLING OUT OF THEIR HOOCHI TOPS AND MICRO MINI SKIRTS THAT WOULD MAKE A HOLLYWOOD HOOKER BLUSH WHILE CHILDREN ARE FORCED TO WATCH THESE SHAMELESS HUSSIES PARADE AROUND LIKE PORN PRINCESSES.

Thank you Southwest for taking this stand! I am not a born -gain Christian, I don't refer to young women as "ladies," and I'm not a modesty crusader (although I applaud the feedback of those on this blog who are). In fact, I'm a progressive, left-leaning individual who believes that these days young girls are being duped by the media into believing that objectifying themselves is "powerful." And they're buying it.

All women want to be sexy, and all women are. We've just got to remember that our self-respect is our power. Thanks, Southwest, for maintaining some standards in our culture-gone-wild.

Apparently, many Southwest Airlines passengers are not flying out of John Wayne airport, where two weekends ago, two women were seen barely clad, strutting their stuff. One look around the aiport is enough to convince a person that there is a "dress" standard that involves a certain amount of cover up, which is NOT oppressive, burka comments from other bloggers aside. Even teenage girls and boys, who daily experiment with new fashion styles, are snickering at these people.

How do the bloggers here define the limit? If a woman shows up looking like a Victoria's Secret model in a photo shoot, that makes them happy and they'll either ogle or look the other way? Is a bathing suit adequite attire for riding a subway, a bus, an airplane? Sorry!! I have a 10 year old son, and women wearing 4 inch heels, the briefest of shorts, bare midriffs and plunging necklines that display more than ample cleavage, especially when they bend over from the waist to dig through their bags looking for their ID ("Whoops! I didn't realize that I needed to show you THAT!") make even HIM uncomfortable.

I am thankful there are people who have the courage to stand up on behalf of the other hundreds of thousands of people who pass through airport every day. These underdressed passengers SHOULD be embarassed that they are asked to cover up, though they should not be intentionally humiliated or abused.

Hey Southwest,

Look at the dress on the woman in the picture of your Las Vegas vacation package and then tell the world about how people need to dress while they fly.

Promote yourself as a upstanding "family" airline and then notice how you want to promote you airline for gay travel on your website.

Get your message together and make sure we know exactly where you stand.

For various reasons beyond the airline industry's control (and some because of deliberate corporate and government decisions), air travel in general in the 21st century ranks right up there with getting a root canal in terms of the general experience of the overall ordeal. Now this.

Southwest used to be my airline of choice. But no more. This incident only adds to my list of things I don't like about Southwest Airlines since Herb Kelleher retired. The nonsensical cattle call free-for-all seating has long been my #1 pet peeve. I much prefer reserved seating. But asking Kyla Ebbert to get off the plane for wearing a mini skirt after going thru all the hassles of checking in and security screening is the last straw. Just because some prudish biddy made a complaint (jealous of Klya's cover girl good looks, no doubt), or maybe because some gay male flight attendent took it upon himself, is no reason to subject a paying customer to such harrassment.

If Ms Ebbert's bosom had been spilling out of her top, or it became obvious she had no panties on under her miniskirt or was showing "cheeks", I could give SWA the benefit of the doubt. But in absense of a published dress code, Southwest doesn't have a leg to stand on in this case.

Speaking of biddies, LAURIE, assuming the outfit in question is indeed the same one Ms Ebbert wore for the Today Show interview, you all who support SWA's action ought to take a chill pill. The outfit consisted of a white T-shirt blouse with a moderately scooped neckline, cut high enough so as to show only the slightest hint of cleavage, and a white denim miniskirt with frayed fringe hem. Ms Ebbert also wore a light blue cashmir sweater over the T shirt. Yes the skirt was short. But there were no spaghetti straps, no deep plunge cleavage, no tattoos all over the place, no piercings, etc. Definitely not a "slut dress" outfit and certainly not a skanky look.

I might also add for the benefit of readers in cooler parts of the country, it is still over 100 degrees EVERY DAY here in Arizona, even now in mid September, so dressing light makes sense.

If a majority of Southwest Airline customers agree that women should not travel dressed as Kyla was, then the airline should come up with an official dress code, and let the flying public vote with their wallets and feet.

I've read the almost 200 pages of comments with a lot of interest because I study communities, especially communities in which there is conflict of values. And it finally came to me, after reading a comment from a law professor. The airline is a public entity in fact, a public utility. Well, as a woman, I also thought, we have a right to be treated with dignity, by those in authority, even if we aren't being dignified at the time. We have a right to be treated with respect by those in charge, and it is an abuse of power to do what was done to Ms Ebbert. I am glad she called her mother and documented her event. More and more the common person refuses to be victimized and enlists the technology of camera phones, you tube and other witnesses to his or her plight. People in positions of authority have a difficult job, a diverse public to handle. We should continue to expect dignified handling by such people. We should continue to demand it. And document failures to provide it.

I think modesty has become a four letter word in our society, so to speak. I am not a prude, by any means, but there are some things that just should not be worn in certain places. Thank you SW ,you have a new customer!

I would like to applaud the Christian Women (Mothers of 3) who have all commented here about Family Values. I would love for South West to become the Family Values airline. By concentrating on the 10-15% of America who believe they are the only one's who have Family Values and are determined to foist their own morality on the rest of this nation of sinners, I am certain SW Airlines will be destined for success! Though flights to New York, San Fransisco, L.A., Las Vegas, as well as any international flights outside the "God Bless the" USA will have to be banned as well. I suggest inflight entertainment be limited to repeat showings of the Passion of the Christ, as well as good wholesome Christian sing-a-longs. Instead of inflight magazines, I suggest BIBLES! Oh, and I am not a Christian or a modesty crusader either. In fact I am a "left-leaning" progressive, who believes that everyone should tell everyone else how to dress and act. Thank you.

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