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Southwest Airlines will be providing testimony to today's (Thursday, April 3) hearing of the House of Representatives' Transportation and Infrastructure Committee, and our Executive Chairman, Herb Kelleher, and CEO Gary Kelly are scheduled to testify.  The hearing begins at 9:oo a.m. Central Time and can be viewed at the Committee's web site.  You can also access our press release by clicking here.

Friday, April 4

Just as a form of recap, for those of you who weren't able to watch the entire hearing or read all the testimony, here are a couple of excerpts from Herb's and Gary's testimony.

Excerpts from Herb's testimony:

Southwest, through the dedication, energy, and warming hearts of its much beloved and cherished Employees, has faithfully delivered on its original promise of 'more value for less fare' for 37 years:

In 1966, when I started work on bringing Southwest into being, we said we are going to free the American people to fly-and we did. At that time, something like only 15-20 percent of adults in the U.S. had ever flown on a single commercial airline flight. Today, that number stands at around 85 percent.

Southwest said we're going to get you there on time-and we did. Among major airlines in existence in 1987, Southwest has the best cumulative Customer Satisfaction record since the inception of such statistics in 1987-21 years ago.

Southwest, for many decades the most heavily unionized of the major airlines, said we are going to take care of our splendid People-and we did.  Southwest instituted the first Employee ProfitSharing Plan in the American airline industry, and no Southwest Employee has, ever, sustained an involuntary furlough.

And, finally, we said we're going to operate the safest airline in the world-and we have. After 16 million flights carrying 1.2 billion passengers without a single-not one-passenger accident fatality, Southwest Airlines' record is intact today.

Excerpts from Gary's testimony:

Southwest Airlines has been a great success at a great many things for 37 years. We believe our People are the best in the aviation industry, and they have enormous devotion to our Company and pride in its results. Above all, the Safety of our People, our Customers, and our own families is my top priority. And, it is Southwest Airlines' top priority.

Our airplanes are designed to be safe, and our Maintenance program is designed to keep them safe. Our Safety record is one of which anyone would be justifiably proud. I believe, deeply, that we have the best Maintenance and Engineering Employees in the airline industry.

I want to assure Congress and the American People that Southwest will not rest on our Safety record, no matter good it may be. I commit to you, we will constructively and aggressively address the issues raised by the FAA and this committee to enable our proud, safe airline to continue as the safest in the world. Our record makes credible this aspiration. Our Southwest People will accept nothing less. Our Customers deserve nothing less.

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I'm very disturbed by allegations relating to Southwest's maintenance program and inspections. CNN's story about wistleblowers alleging that Southwest requested that a specific government inspector be reassigned (http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/04/02/southwest.faa.inspection/index.html) is particularly disturbing.

I am very, very uncomfortable about flying yet I do so regularly for my work in Texas. Southwest has always been my first choice in flying because until that incident in Chicago, the airline had never had a fatality. I originally attributed this to Southwest's commitment to quality and safety. With the latest allegations, I wonder whether it would be more appropriate to attribute Southwest's safety record to luck.

It is time for Southwest's "Tylenol Moment." Southwest needs to get out in front, say "We screwed up; we took our eye off the ball, forgetting that our greatest assets are our employees and our customers (particularly their trust and loyalty). In a time where the airline industry is facing unprecedented challenges due to fuel prices, we cannot allow ourselves to forget our core values and responsibilities. We deeply regret this episode but will work to ensure that we learn from it and are thankful that no one was injured as a result of this lapse. Southwest is committed to providing high quality service at reasonable prices and safety is an important part of that service."

Now get out there and say it. Stop saying "Yes, planes went out without inspections but no one was at risk and no one got hurt so don't worry about it." If a person shoots a gun in the air and it doesn't kill anyone when it comes back down, that doesn't excuse the person who fired the gun recklessly.

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SWA has done unreversable damage to their reputation by trying to save a few dollars at the expense of public safety. They will now blame this on a few "rogue" employees and claim to have remedied thier problem.

A former loyal customer

I LOVE SOUTHWEST AIRLINES! yay!

Dear Southwest,

As an American air traveler, I have been increasingly concerned with the safety of the nation's "economy airlines" as the economics of flying have seemingly decreased profit margins over the last 10 years (higher gas prices, lower market rates). It has been my fear that in an effort to sustain themselves, airlines have been pressured to increase the numbers of flights they operate per day, meaning less attention would be paid to inspections and matters of safety. This was not a confirmed fact, but simply a suspicion I had based on my observations as a frequent flyer. The flying experience has seemed increasingly more frenzied and less professional for some time now and it only seems to get worse. I have never been a huge fan of flying, but in the past 5 years or so, my anxiety level increased dramatically. My trust in the thoroughness of airplane pre-flight inspections erroded as it appeared to me that more importance was being placed on churning out as many flights as possible, rather than taking time to ensure quality and safety. The findings of the FAA regarding your disregard of Federal Regulations has confirmed my suspicion and I am completely and utterly disgusted by your disregard for the safety of your customers and personel. This is probably the most potent example of corporate greed I have ever witnessed and I think it will severely impact your company's credibilty, even among your most loyal customers. I know that personally I have a trip scheduled with Southwest coming up next week and I will be cancelling it immediately and flying United instead. I will not be flying with your airline again unless I am convinced by your actions that you are committed to sweeping change amongst your organizations safety policies. I cannot trust a company that has, apparently, so little regard for human life.

- Stephanie

The investigation should prove insightful as it is coming to light that numerous people -- both within Southwest as well as the FAA -- appear to have been aware for some time of the non-compliance. This "oversight" or "misunderstanding" is now appearing as a total disregard for safety and human life (both for passengers and Southwest employees on these planes), orchestrated by people who seemed to have known exactly what was happening. You can only plead ignorance for so long.

Nice going SWA,
Who can we trust anymore? If you think about it, it's sad that we even need the FAA to watch out for our safety. What would SWA or others get away with if the FAA were not there??? Now FAA employees Bobby Bourtris and Douglas Peters
have to enter the federal whistle blowers program because they chose to do the right thing? Hey Herb and Gary (Chairman/CEO SWA) is it really worth it to have our blood on your hands, for money? would you really enjoy your retirement if a plane had gone down due to maintenance violations? I will only fly my family on SWA when Herb and Gary step down in shame. It's one thing to defraud old ladies of their life savings like some spineless CEO's, but to play with my family's lives for money? SWA has lost it's way.......

Former Customer,
Cary Il.

Southwest's apparently disregard for human life for no other reason than profit is inexcuseable and they must be made an example of. I personally will never fly on Southwest airlins again. I would like to see prison terms for all of those in management involved in this murderous episode.

Shame on you!

May your curse be to fly on those same unsafe airplanes that you would allow to fly passengers on.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/04/02/southwest.faa.inspection/index.html

I am sad to say that even though I have a flight booked on Southwest in April, I will be cancelling it and booking on a different airline. I know that I will forfeit some money, but I don't know who to trust here and I don't feel like dealing with the stress of wondering.

I fly Southwest twice weekly and nearly always have a very positive experience. From gate to plane, the crews are professional, customer focused, and friendly.

However, as a frequent flyer, I am very concerned by these potential safety issues. I would like a letter sent to all frequent flyers detailing what specific steps you have and will take to ensure current and future passenger safety.

We are owed this as customers who spend thousands on your airline annually. The testimony and public relations campaign are not enough Ã

John,
If you go to the press release that I linked above and then click on the attachments link in the release, it will have part of Herb and Gary's written testimony. Also, if the Committee staff follow their usual pattern for this hearing, the full written testimony will be posted on the Committee's web site under hearings. Scroll down and click on the witnesses' name for the written testimony. You can also watch the oral testimony on the site.
Brian

When I called you guys a few weeks back I was bereated by the person from customer relations. She said the the SWA people were fired which is not the case, and that I was over reacting. She also said that the 10.2 million was under protest and would be waived in her estimation. Saftey is NOT an issue with Southwest. It starts with the cabin crew making snide remarks during their safety presentation on board, to the carelessness of the boarding agents leaving doors open with no regard to who is walking down the ramp to the plane when the agents are "missing in action." I am sick of people being thrown off planes because they wear the wrong shirts or their skirts are too short!! Look around SWA your passenger's safety is at play and your culture does not care. CEO on down should be fired right now.

I will never fly your airline again.

How dare you try and circumvent rules and regulations that exist for a reason?

How dare you put the lives of so many people -- me included -- at risk?

How dare you threaten the brave individuals who came forward and reported your behavior?

Do not insult my intelligence with your "safety was never compromised" schtick. I have a terminal degree in the sciences, and I *know* that's not true. Saftey was compromised and you know it.

You've lied and you've cheated. You are unworthy of my business.

I have been watching the testimonies all morning now...the "good ole boy" system that encompasses the muckety-mucks at Southwest Airlines has clearly spilled over to include relationships with the FAA inspectors. "Dysfunctional" has been the word used the most so far in the hearings. "Cozy relationship" and "wink-wink, nod" have also been tossed around quite a bit. How disheartening. Also of note is the lack of maintenence recordkeeping on the part of Southwest.
Certainly, the district mangers for the FAA are also to blame- but for a Company whose "motto" is "The Golden Rule", and "Doing the Right Thing"...this is looking pretty bad. The fact that Southwest Airlines seems to have hand-picked their own inspectors and, apparently, gotten rid of them via the FAA managers if they were to find anything wrong with SWA's MX practices. And when asked if this was a "widespread problem including other carriers", the answer was "no, it was a unique situation at Southwest".
Again- kudos for having the guts to include all of this on your blog. Honestly, if it were up to me, I would remove this thread. It's not going well AT ALL for Southwest in this hearing. If the media gives this hearing as much attention as it did with the initial story, the fallout could be catastorphic...couple that with ATA declaring bankruptcy and closing its doors...the price of LUV will plummet.

As a business traveler in the 90s, I did whatever I could to avoid flying SWA, even for short-haul flights (e.g. LAX to OAK), preferring to fly the majors.

But your on-time records, extensive number of flights, and easy access through regional airports eventually won me over. By the mid-90s, I completely altered my airline preferences and traveled extensively on your airline, accumulating numerous free flights through your rewards program.

Your immoral and cavalier attitude towards passenger safety shattered that loyalty in 5 minutes -- the time it took to read the devious and underhanded maneuvers your corporation from the highest executive levels to thwart standard safety protocol. I will no longer fly SWA for any flight - for any reason.

I am forwarding the article to all of my business colleagues and friends who are currently SWA enthusiasts to persuade them in choosing other airlines as well.

You have a daunting challenge ahead to win back passenger loyalty. You may buy back the budget-conscious travelers with your famous low fare specials. But you're going to need unprecedented mea culpas and other efforts to win back your business travelers -- travelers whose families depend upon their livelihood and mortality -- travelers who cannot and will not gamble with their lives for cheap fares.

Sincerely,
T. Olson

By knowingly putting people at risk you are equivalent to low life murders.

I have been watching the Transportation and Infrastructure Committee's
hearing on airline safety and oversight. All I can say is, "SHAME ON YOU,
SWA." Every employee of SWA should be embarrassed to be a part
of this company.

I do not appreciate Southwest knowingly putting my life at risk in order to save a buck. I won't be flying Southwest again.

An announcenment to: Herb, Colleen and the other management sleaze balls that make up your team:

"You are now free to move about your jail cells."

The nerve of Southwest and the FAA is shocking. To compromise the safety of your customers for your profit margin is disgusting.

I can not fathom the decision making that Southwest engaged when it decided to fly planes that were not properly inspected. I have flown my last Southwest flight.

I guess all of you who are cancelling SWA flights have not been watching the news lately! YOUR airline has problems as well!

Shame on you Southwest. How DARE you jeopardize the saftety of millions of people just so you can be thought of as the most "on-time" airline? How DARE you? People trusted you and put their lives in your hands assuming that you valued those lives. I have an upcoming flight on your airline, one that is too late for me to cancel and make new arrangements. But I will not be flying SWA again. How DARE you? And rest assured, had one of these uninspected airplanes gone down, you would have started blaming and pointing fingers and trying to take down any entity you could to avert the consequences of your GREEDY actions. How DARE you? Maybe when you get some time you should read your "Safety Commitment"

I think the fact that SWA is allowing comments like "By knowingly putting people at risk you are equivalent to low life murders" to be posted says a lot.

My two cents.

I am appalled and disgusted. For years, Southwest has positioned itself as the "Luv" airline, and the irreverant "were not like everyone else" alternative to the other guys.

Now, it seems, you're just like everyone else. You cut corners, put your passengers at risk, and engage in improper, unethical behavior. Your marketing team and ad agency must be working overtime spinning this one. Herb Kelleher's chain-smoking must be on overdrive right now.

And what about Gary Kelly? And Colleen Barrett? Forget the folksy ruminations, and the claims that Gary loves freight. What Gary loves is hardball tactics and bending the rules. Like Gary, I'm the CEO of a company, and if we did what Southwest did, I'd expect to lose my job, and rightfully so.

I'll keep flying the airline, because of where I live, but don't think I respect the organization like I once did, and I'm fairly certain the damage is permanent.

Tell me how you're going to prove me wrong.

I live in Raleigh and have always used SW for my partner and I when we make our trips to Orlando. She would rather drive or take the train, but the low cost and the 2 hour by SW versus 10 hours by car was a deciding factor. But having just purchased 2 roundtrip tickets for May, and her watching the hearings, I'll have to cancel the tickets because she refuses to get on a SW flight.

We've been together for 35 years and a fight over using SW is just not worth it, so I'm taking an extra couple days vacation time and we'll be driving. Thanks SouthWest for insulting a regular customer with your lies about maintenance.

Of course if SW had just fixed everything I would have reconsidered, but their trying to get the FAA inspectors fired is unexcuseable.

-Emma,

No Santa Clause, no Easter Bunny, no SouthWest as we all imagined it. Hope you lose a bundle. From one of your customer who only flew SW whenever he could. No more.

I find it ironic that I purchased tickets for my first trip using Southwest just before the news broke of your blatant disregard for your customersÃ

Just booked 8 round trips in July. Booking more tomorrow. Southwest will make it through this rough time. You guys are awesome. Tell your staff to hang in there.

The quote of the day, from the Southwest CEO:

"Regulatory non-compliance and being unsafe are two different things."

Unbelievable. I just flew SW last week and told my wife that you'd put the safety issues behind you.

Okay- it's now 6:35 and I am glued to my computer screen. Herb and Gary have testified. I can say this: If Bill O'Reilly wanted these two on his show, it would have to be re-labled "Spin Zone"...
I was truly looking forward to Herb "cutseying" his way out of this- but he has lost his touch. Between the constant hacking and ill-timed, patronizing jokes about the whole situation, he has not helped one bit. Herb actually stated that "only a small part of the aircraft was not inspected- just a little piece...". That's reassuring- and he was called on it immediately.
Gary Kelly...a numbers man, no doubt. Nice guy, indeed. But a numbers man...first and foremost. When asked if SWA MX officials "pressured" FAA inspectors to not report the findings, he could not give a straight answer.
Now we are starting every sentence with "To my recollection..." and "I don't recall..." as if we are in a pseudo-Alberto Gonzalez hearing. Sad day, indeed.

So Southwest screwed up a little. I'm sure the other airlines did a lot worse. I'll keep flying Southwest, they still have the best safety record and service.

Yes, there was a lack of communication pertaining to the Airworthiness Directive but anyone who knows anything about aircraft knows that though SWA flew those planes past the date stated on the AD, it wasn't in any danger since it hadn't surpassed the year and a half given until the airplane was in danger. What people don't remember are the multiple catastrophic accidents that the other airlines (United, American, Delta, Northwest, AirTran/ValuJet) while Southwest's record remains spotless. Those who claim that they will never fly Southwest are only kidding themselves because everyone know that people aren't going to spend $500.00 to fly from Florida to Washington when you can fly Southwest for $200.00 ad have a better chance to be ontime. As far as jeopardizing the safety of the American public, what about every single person out their that talks on their cellphone while driving or the times when you all had a drink or two and you claimed you were OK to drive home? So basically everyone claiming that they are shocked and distrubed by the "FACT" that Southwest knowlingly put everyones lives in danger, you are all complete idiots!! If they were so unsafe than why doesn't there record show dozens of fatal accidents like al the other airlines. Enjoy flying the friendly skies, for those of you claiming they will never fly Southwest, in a 25 year old DC-8 or some POS that has its maintenance done in some shack down in Honduras.

UMMMM- DeFazio just referred to the "good old days and Frank Lorenzo"...any ex-Eastern folks wanna weigh in on that?

Shame on you Southwest Airlines. Your behaviors do not align with your marketing. I hope that your stock drops like a rock thereby causing stockholders to insist that heads roll. Don't even try to spin it as an FAA problem - just because they have their own problems does not get you off the hook.

I believed in SWA. Believed it was a company trying to do business differently. Believed that SWA really cared about its customers. Obviously I was wrong. Even if it's only a few "rotten apples" in the barrel, it reflects on the entire company. I believed so much in you that I saved my $ to buy stock. I bought - not to make lots of money - but because I wanted to invest in SWA's values, principles, ways of doing business. But you've demonstrated that you're not worthy of our trust and support. The way that you've endangered the public - your customers - is shameful. And the worse of it is the apparent attempts by SWA to get certain diligent and repsonsible FAA staff fired or moved from their jobs.

BTW, I sold all my SWA stock. Not because I was worried about further stock losses but because owning your stock turned my stomach.

Is SWA going to do any kind or reimbursement for passengers who have flights in the next upcoming weeks. We're going to FL. and I do not feel comfortable whatsoever. The airline said that I cannot get any kind of refund, not even a credit. What can I do.

I WILL NEVER EVER FLY THIS AIRLINE AGAIN! I was always a frequent flier of yours ... there's no friggin way I will ever step on board Southwest's flying death traps. Shocking and unbelievable disregard for human lives. Not to mention threatening the lives of the whistleblowers who exposed your cozy deal with the FAA to skate through inspections. You are all crooks - every last one of you - and I hope this criminal enterprise goes out of business forever. I'M BOYCOTTING SOUTHWEST AND TELLING EVERYONE I KNOW TO DO THE SAME!!!

I posted the first comment a while ago when this story broke and commented that I did not believe you. Looks like I was proven right.

The first rule of managing a corporate crisis is getting all the bad news out at once so it doesn't dribble out and make you look untrustworthy. I'm sure there will be more after public and congressional pressure forces the FAA to complete truly independent investigations.

Get in front of it, apologize completely and convincingly, provide full transparency and figure out how to capture the public's trust again. There, just saved you $100k in crisis consulting fees.

I have two family members who have, in the past, been frequent SW customers due to business commitments. They now make other arrangements. How dare you bastards endanger the life of your passengers!! You and the government regulators who colluded with you to put off plane inspections deserve to burn in hell. I hope you all lose your jobs and the company goes bankrupt. I tell everyone I talk to not to fly Southwest Airlines.

I think most of you have overlooked the fact that it was SWA who brought to FAA's attention of what was discovered during one of it's "own" inspections back in March of 2007. When SWA reported the AD violation, FAA told SWA that it is "okay" to continue to fly these aircrafts while the inspections were being conducted. Now, the questions is, did SWA maliciously and intentionally flew these aircrafts unsafe? I doubt it. Their mistake was, and lesson learned, was to have not followed the FAA's recommendation to continue to fly these aircrafts and instead should have taken the initiative to ground them until all inspections were completed. As Mr Kelleher said, he apologized for making this mistake and it is one lesson that SWA's management have duly noted.
I truly believe, that SWA has the safety of all it's passengers and employees in mind hence why all these are happening right now. If it weren't for their own "discovery" of these said "ADs" that were violated, where would we be now? The safety record of this company is "stellar" and proves that SAFETY is it's first priority and will always be!

This is a very disappointing turn of events. I am completely surprised that Southwest appears to be one of the bad guys. (I thought that was American Airlines your long-time rivals.) The hiring of the former FAA inspector as a means to ease the inspections process is inexcusable. I don't care if everyone else does it, or whether someone said that it was okay either. I have worked in the corporate world for years and know how it works. This is clearly part of a Southwest 'strategy' to warp the inspection process and then to 'spin' its non-compliance by self-reporting after the fact. All to save some money. But, how much is this whole ordeal costing Southwest now, and who will have to pay the price??? It seems to me that it's time for Herb to retire as chairman of the board immediately. From his remarks today, he's out of touch with his customer and thinks that paying a fine should sweep matters under the rug. Others may have to go as well.

I feel so betrayed by your company. I will go out of my way to not travel on SouthWest Airlines ever again, and I fly frequently. I realize that other airlines are likely guilty of compromising safety to save a buck, but I really thought SW was different.

I used to defend SW when friends criticized the "bus in the air". Bye bye SW. I feel sorry for your employees.

I once forgot to get my car inspected and drove around for a whole month out of legal compliance. I drove my friends around, went to work, etc.....

Does that mean I put everyone's life at risk for my own convenience?

Some of the accusations I've read (hello - murderers?) are just as ridiculous. The FAA is cracking down - and they should - on the compliance officers that failed to remediate this issue.

As a frequent SWA passenger I am shocked and very disturbed at your actions or lack of actions. I have always promoted SWA to my friends and other business people, never again. How much money did you save? Did the Ã

It is amazing to me to read the vitiolic and accusatory comments above which have come complete with insults like "murderers", since to my knowledge, there has been no loss of life associated with any alleged lapses on the part of Southwest in the area of inspections. Many of the people above seem to be parroting some of the initial knee-jerk reactions that were posted on this blog a few weeks ago before all of the facts had come out. Some of you who are suddenly so indignant might want to go back and review some of the earlier comments that address many of your complaints and accusations.

For those who say that Southwest is not "owning up" to their mistakes, perhaps they skipped over some key parts of the video recording of today's hearings. A few statements you may have missed:

Herb Kelleher: "I apologize to this committee -- we realize those planes should not have flown."

HK: "...we should not have..."

HK: "..we learned our lesson..."

HK: "...these planes should have been on the ground."

Gary Kelly: "There was clearly a mistake with our regulatory compliance."

What I heard both of these gentlemen saying was that Southwest had made mistakes, but I also heard them explain some of the "bigger picture" that keeps getting overlooked or not reported. Herb and Gary were not trying to shirk responsibility by making sure that the problems were also partly the fault of the FAA and their procedures.

When people who are critical of Southwest Airlines, which is unquestionably the SAFEST airline based on its history and number of passengers carried and miles flown, start saying that Southwest and its management needs to be more forthright, let me ask you a question. Have you noticed that since the beginning of this media frenzy, frequent and regular updates have been made on this blog? Have you noticed that there has been no censoring of comments (other than a few early ones that contained profanity) and that the accusers have had equal access to posting their opinions here as anyone else? Have you noticed that in the blog post above, they've provided us a weblink so we could listen to nine hours and 35 minutes' worth of video footage so that everyone could watch and hear what was said in Washington today?

This company, and its management, is NOT hiding from this controversy, but is being very open in expressing the facts AND providing a forum for people who want to attack them. Have you seen similar responses from American, Delta and American Eagle in the last two weeks while they were grounding their planes for inspections that should have been done?

Kim
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I'm appalled at the amount of "SWA Hate-mail" posts in this article. Southwest Airlines has always strived to be the safest airline out there, and I believe they still are. I still think at no point were any of those aircraft with the original cracks on them unsafe. This may be an old issue, but all this "Southwest isn't safe", and "Southwest has no regard towards safety," buisness has erupted from it.

I would be really interested to see what the pilots have to say about this. Being someone who is currently earning a pilots license, I know that I would never jump in an airplane knowing that it might not bring me back safely. I'm sure the pilots at this company feel the same way.

Loyal Southwest customer for life,
Tucker

Earlier in the week, I made a post about whether Southwest's customer backed up their words with their actions (by not traveling during March) if you all look at the March traffic is seems that many of you are NOT backing up your words with your actions. Early May, we will see how you all did in backing up your words with your actions (by voting with your feet and wallet) when we see the April traffic report. For those of you who are saying that this airline should get in front of this and apologize and correct their procedures are simply not paying attention. Some of the corrective procedures include the hiring of third-parties to analyze their changes and this airline has issued mulitple apologies since March 7th. This airline is well aware that they have significant bridge building to get their MX procedures in order. However, Congressional hearings have never been the best place to get to all of the facts, historically. If we want to truly get to bottom of this, other fact finding forums need to be set up.

I am failing to see a real problem here. SWA gets nailed once for maintenance problems and gets rail roaded for doing for what every other airline has done... Self Disclosures... ALL Airlines have this to happen. I mean reall. These inspections are NOT that big of a deal, American just had some similiar issues.. and out of the news, United just anounced that it is redoing some inspections... Very little news. Quanta's (classified as the safest airline in the world, SWA is number 2 in the world, #1 in the US) just self disclosed that 55 airplanes had passenger Oxygen system serviced wiht Nitrogen... Nitrogen is deadly. You breath 100% Nitrogen at 30-50,000 feet and you are DEAD.. But NO NEWS. Why is SWA being singled out for their first offense, which is really not a safety issue here. I think that if we look deep enough that there is a political issue going on here. Maybe SWA stepped on a politicians toes some how... LOL, I would like to step on some of their toes actually.

Every airline has this kind of problem... Why not pick on them. SWA self disclosed all of the above and now is being rail roaded because of it.

I support SWA in what ever they do here, because I know that they will do the right thing to keep the Flying Public safe! We are all only human and we make mistakes.... I hope CNN is near some of these critizers here whey they make a mistake!

Wow, are you people for real? Did you hear the same congressional hearing that I heard today?

I'm a vacation flyer on Southwest. I've never blogged before and can't believe what I'm reading. I fly only Southwest because of their 30 plus year great safety record and their great, inexpensive flights. My family is able to take many much needed vacations and weekend getaways on Southwest and I will continue to fly them. Here's why,

I heard the CEO and Chairman say that 1. Southwest has the best safety record in the industry, not to mention the best on time performance and absolute best customer service ranking. 2. They admitted they made a mistake when they told the FAA about missing two inspections out of 1100 pages of documents (you find me an airline that has never made a mistake) 3. they asked Boeing if the 43 airplanes were still safe to fly people...and Boeing said YES. 4. They asked the manager of the FAA if they could fly these airplanes for the 7 or 8 days that it would take to inspect them...and they said YES.

If you have a reasonable amount of pure commen sense, why would you go to another airline, when Southwest has proved it has the best safety record? And, why go to another airline when other airlines recently grounded hundreds of airplanes when Southwest grounded 40 or so airplanes?

I will continue to fly Southwest because of everything they offer and everything that they do right.

After reading your posts calling these people "murderers" and you hope they "burn in h..." I'm actually blessed that I won't have to sit next to you on my next Southwest flight. Heaven forbid I actually put my tray table down too soon, you will probably condemn me too. Maybe you should try anger management or find a hobby???

I realize many of you are upset with what you heard on the news reports. But really! Is "low life murders" and "burn in hell" really necessary? Have you read the written testimony from Gary and Herb? In case you have not, here's an important excerpt:

"Contrary to some suggestions, we did not miss an inspection. We conducted the required inspections. But, we inadvertently omitted a small area (0.6% of the skin surface) that ordinarily should have been specifically inspected under the AD. The "missed" area continued to be inspected by our other regular and routine inspections, as well as by an additional AD that called for crack inspections along a line that ran within 0.7 inches of the short length of the "missed" area."

If you take the time to read the testimony and exhibits, you'll see that it is not 'spin' to say we we never flew an unsafe flight.

How sad that it takes a whistleblower or two from the FAA to expose dirt from underneath Southwest's so called "safety commitment" carpet. Perhaps all the loyal and not so loyal customers as well as the family members of your flight crews should invest in Shop Vac stock since Southwest appears to have an abundance of discarded pieces of maintenance records to vacuum up.

Here's a revised safety commitment that should be posted in their website..

Southwest Airlines' number one hundred and one priority is to ensure the personal Safety of each Southwest Customer and Employee so long as no one discovers our true secrets.

I'll be driving to Vegas from now on!

WASHINGTON - The whistleblowers who exposed maintenance and inspection problems at Southwest Airlines told Congress their jobs were threatened and their reports of noncompliance were ignored for years.

Southwest, you should be ashamed of yourselves.

BOYCOTT Southwest NOW. Who knows, your life might depend on it!

I'm sorry, but 10 million is not enough of a fine in my estimation. 1400 luckky flights later, we have learned the truth. I'm afraid to think I might have been on one of those flights. Not any more, however!

Coupling the above with the 8 hours I have spent waiting on the phone for someone to help me with my sw booked ata flight....are you kidding me! Are you trying to lose customers. To bad... a competent company turned useless husk on its last leg.

It is interesting that most of the comments so far were made BEFORE Southwest's testimony at the hearing.

Almost all the testimony prior to Southwest 's was focused on FAA problems and not the actual safety of Southwest's aircraft.

What is shocking to me is how reckless some people can be with their comments based on little or no information, but that is the nature of blogs and of many blog posters.

In the case of Southwest, this is a compliance issue, not a safety of flight issue. That is not to take away from the importance of compliance, but there is a difference in this case, and if you are not willing or able to see the difference then "shame on you."

I wonder how many of you posting all the venomous comments actually would ever put the keyboard aside long enough to actually read ALL the information available? Do so, then make an informed statement, as opposed to adding fuel to the media hype machine that is being perpetuated. No wonder sensationalist journalism is so prevalent. The vocal majority feeds on sound bites and partial information. If the facts are examined from Boeing, FAA, (not just disgruntled whistleblowers), independent experts(whose opinions are always taken as gospel when the opinion is bad), and information that Southwest is freely exposing, then if you wish to condemn and fly one of the other carriers, go right ahead.

For those of you saying NEVER again. Just wait, you will be flying with me on SWA again soon. SWA is the safest of all airlines. You can go to your United, American, Continental.....but believe you me...you will be back soon with the rest of us loyal SWA customers.

Southwest Airlines - social media history in the making...

Southwest Airlines and the FAAÂ

Looks like I'll be one of the few people on my upcoming flights with SWA - more peanuts for me!! I don't understand the hostility of some posters. Yes, it's disheartening to hear that a flight you took with family and/or friends could have had a potential problem. What if you get a recall notice on your vehicle today for a faulty part? Are you going to NEVER drive your vehicle one more mile again? I doubt it.

Yeah, yeah. Everyone's suddenly an aviation-maintenance expert.

I'm sticking with SWA.

I am taking my first flight in 10 years tomorrow on SWA. The price is unbeatable. I even used th lowest price finder on the web site and mored my flight one day to save 300 on 2 tickets. The price beat all the others by better then 30%. And quess what SWA's safety record is the best.... On time is good, getting there is better, SWA has a great record on both counts. I agree that they need to make changes. If your car that you drive everyday at 70mph had to meet the same standards as a plane you would have it in for inspection at least once a month and you would be replaceing parts. I know this would make the road a litle safer but lets keep in perspective.

You get exactly what you pay for.....SWA is a low cost airline--and that means cost cutting....I hope that SWA gets a MAJOR FINE to shock the entire industry and forces the industry to conduct more HARSH SAFETY MEASURES...The entire story is completely shocking.

Being a Southwest Flight Attendant, I am here to say that I am heading to work here in couple hours with no qualms whatsoever regarding the safety of our operation. I will proudly do what we have done for 37 years - get you to your destination on the safest airline in America. And I will do it with a smile.

What you people posting these comments don't realize is that every major airline grounded planes in a hurry because they were not inspected properly. The inspection process is really different than you think if you would accually listen to all of the facts from both sides of the story like you would any thing else you might learn something. Go to (http://www.airsafe.com/airline.htm) this will maybe change your mind. or even this web site (http://www.ntsb.gov/Aviation/Paxfatal.htm) tell me where southwest is? Or what about your favorite airline are they on that list? Is that just a lucky 37 years? How many people do you know who have been lucky for 37 years? If you even listen to that Oberstar guy he said air travel is safe and he is the one who is making the big deal about everything.

Blog Boy Kim said:
For those who say that Southwest is not Ã

There's a certain number of people that if you told them the sun was shining they'd complain that it was too bright outside.

I'm satisfied with the company's response. They seem to be taking it seriously. The blame should be shared by the company, employees, and FAA, and that seems to be what we're seeing play out.

Southwest has shamed themselves. A company that boasts its record of safety and customer commitment is cited by the FAA for ignoring "cracks" in their aircraft. Where is the trust? How can Southwest think so little of human life to risk thousands of lives for their own greed. Herb Kelleher has disgraced Southwest and the entire airline industry. Furthermore, Mr. Kelleher has demonstrated a callous and reckless disregard for the lives and safety of his loyal customers. Shame on you Mr. Kelleher and shame on your company.

Is this a way of forcing SWA to stop offering lower fares so the other airlines won't go out of business, in the wake of higher fuel prices? Or is it a way of SWA to keep from going out of business, in the wake of higher fuel prices? Seems odd that its happening now, when the price of fuel is so high.

It's cheaper to ground planes than to fly them when fuel prices are this high. Saves face for everyone and preserves the bottom line.

First and foremost I have been a loyal SWA customer for years and WILL continue to do so. I watched the hearings and was very impressed with Herb & Gary's testimonies. SWA's safety record speaks for itself....who else can say that? Gary Kelly is the genius who implemented fuel hedging do you think he would really turn his head on inspections....c'mon! Apparently they still have a lot of loyal supporters ....I flew twice this week and the southwest terminals were slammed.

Ken A.,

If you can find any credible source that says Southwest was "cited by the FAA for ignoring 'cracks' in their aircraft," I'll buy you a steak dinner! That never happened!

Your comments, and those of many others, show that you are completely ignorant of the facts.

If you had read the actual citation, which I have read several times, and if you had watched the hearings, which I have from beginning to end, you would know that Southwest was cited for missing, because of a documentation error, the inspection of a very small piece of the aircraft skin covered by an AD ... a couple of inches high and about a yard long.

Southwest NEVER ignored a single inspection or AD, and as far as I have seen, no official source has made such an allegation. AND, because of the numerous other inspections Southwest does, the segment of skin that was missed in the specific AD inspection was, in fact, checked during other inspections.

Again, "shame on you" for not taking the time to understand what is a relatively simple issue.

Southwest made a mistake. They admitted the mistake. They corrected the mistake. And there is NO EVIDENCE that they ever flew an unsafe aircraft.

Southwest should have taken it seriously in 2007, not 2008.
Kelleher's constant giggling demonstrated how not serious he considered it.
What's the over/under on how soon after Douglas T. Gawadzinski is fired by the FAA, that Southwest hires him?
What's the odds that Douglas T. Gawadzinski was paid under the table by Southwest to ignore violations?
But seriously, one item that was found to be true, and not addressed by Southwest or its Koresh-type loyal fans - Why did Southwest complain about Boutris? Which as we know now, was found to be utterly and completely baseless.

I agree with CharlieWest219's comment that SWA has been out in front of this issue as far as allowing posts to the blog is concerned, and that all the hyperbole from posters is unnecessary. However, as crack-prone as a 737 fuselage apparently is, it seems like criticism for not following "AD#2" is justified. This omission was serious enough to make the FAA to impose the fine that it did, and anyone should understand why loyal customers are upset.

Jim said:
"However, as crack-prone as a 737 fuselage apparently is, it seems like criticism for not following Ã

"Three F.A.A. inspectors testified that their agency had allowed Southwest Airlines to fly uninspected planes, and that the airline had continued to fly the planes even after it later found cracks in some of them.

The inspectors said that when they complained, their bosses threatened their jobs and discouraged them from pursuing safety problems.

One was removed from his job as an office manager and another was encouraged to apply for a transfer. A third, Charalambe Boutris, was temporarily removed from his role overseeing Southwest after complaints from the airline. "

Shame on you Southwest, shame!

wow. The ignorance of some people. They follow the media and nothing else, they don't think for themselves. They let the NBC Nightly news do their thinking. Didn't your parents ever teach you to not believe everything you hear or read???

"murderers"???? What the heck? Do you know how DUMB you sound?

It is awesome to see the intelligent bloggers come out of the woodwork once the idiots leave.

I love Southwest, and will continue to use them!!!!!!!!!

CharliesWest219:
Since you have so much information that the rest of the public doesn't have, care to answer why Southwest complained about Boutris? It's all documented by the IG that it was baseless.

Also, care to answer why Boutris' wife received a death threat? Enlighten us oh great one with knowledge beyond the media. Share your insider knowledge.

To the Executives, Managers, and Supervisors: Clean house by starting at the top, Resign. have at least that on your record.

You would fire employee caught doing what you have done. No inspections?

Do we need a Grand Jury to state the obvious?

It seems to me this was a media smear campaign against Southwest more than anything else, led by CNN. For some reason the media wanted to blow this out of proportion. Why has CNN harped on this story more than anyone else?? Southwest made an error, and openly admitted they made an error.
Remember, Southwest was the airline that developed the program to inspect cracks on 737's in the first place. If anyone knows 737's and how to maintain them its Southwest.
I'll keep flying Southwest!

CharlieS said:
"Since you have so much information that the rest of the public doesnÃ

Mercedes & Others,

Let's put this idea that Southwest did "no inspections" to rest.

First, the citation specifies 46 of Southwest's approximately 525 aircraft as being out of compliance. So ... the vast majority were in compliance and that is not in question.

Second, those 46 aircraft WERE inspected pursuant to the AD in question. That inspection was not ignored or overlooked. In fact, approximately 99.4 percent of that inspection WAS done. A small panel was overlooked, and that oversight was self-reported by Southwest as soon as they discovered.

I don't think any fair-minded person could justify calling that "no inspections."

In addition, Southwest performs as many as 80 other inspections on each aircraft every year. And some of those inspections cover the same area that was inadvertently missed in the specific AD inspection.

That doesn't sound like "no inspections."

If you want to be mad at Southwest, support it with facts, not reckless statements that are patently false.

Safety is job 1, paramount, sacred for an airline. There is no excuse for this Southwest. Any failure of management or management systems is the responsibility of the CEO and the board. One accident because of failed management systems, failed safety processes especially if induced by greed at the bottom is an unacceptable price to pay.

Just as there are criminal penalties for drunk pilots, there must be criminal penalties for senior managers who compromise customer and public safety for greed.

This is a shocking lapse in standards and perhaps a lengthy jail sentence would send the right signals to other airline management teams.

Sorry to be tough but it is that important.

I have been a loyal supporter of SWA for many years. It is with great sadness that I have heard about the lack of maintenance on SWA's planes!! I had just flown from Midway to Phoenix on Wed of this week, but am extremely concerned about the lack of supervision from management regarding maintenance. In fact, there have been no public statements from upper level management regarding the fact that SWA has not been fulfilling its responsibility for proper maintenance of the fleet. I have always thought that this was one of the finest companies in the USA. I hope you are able to fix these problems. I would think that upper level management would be out on the front lines trying to put the public on notice of your intention to fix the problems and reinstill faith in the safety of your fleet.
My sincere appreciation.
Frederick S. Simonie, M.D.

SWA has proven their safety by their history of safe flying. I'm happy that you narrow minded people that have become SWA haters are leaving. The flights will be more pleasant without you. If you believe that no other airines have put your lives in danger, then you are completely misguided. Everyone makes mistakes and SWA will be paying an excessive amount for theirs. Unfortunately, they were the airline that was chosen to make an example out of. I'm sure the other airlines are just as guilty, otherwise why would they have grounded their airplanes for safety inspections - DUH!

GO SWA - your the best and your employees are too!!!!!

In regards to: "Southwest was the airline that developed the program to inspect cracks on 737Ã

To CharlieWest1219 and my fellow SWA supporters here:

There is an old expression about "preaching to the choir" that may be appropriate here. Some of us try to accumulate as many facts about a situation as possible, add in our own personal observations, mix in a healthy dose of common sense, and arrive at a conclusion that is supportable. Some people take the smallest shred of information possible, fail to verify its truthfulness or question any possible hidden agendas or motives or timing in the release of that information, and then go to extraordinary lengths to make assumptions and presumptions about someone's behavior or intentions.

If you read the majority of the blog posts on all of the inspection-related threads here from the last few weeks, they fall into one of two camps. The first is the name-calling, accusatory, inflammatory and threatening rhetoric, such as: "...how DARE you do this to my family...", "...murderers...", "...giant conspiracy...", "...I feel so betrayed...", etc., etc., etc. The other is from Southwest supporters who weigh the facts, review who has supplied the facts, search for facts not being reported and add in the indisuputable safety record of Southwest and conclude that this is becoming an emotionally-charged and lopsided issue for far too many people.

The likelihood of you, CharlieWest, or me, or any of the others who fall into that second camp, being able to get the people in the first camp to take a deep breath and give some more thought to what they are being fed by the media is, unfortunately, fairly low. The devotees of Chicken Little are legion, and will jump at any opportunity to run around predicting the rapid descent of the upper levels of our atmosphere. If you doubt the interest in conspiracy theories and digging for the "inner secrets" of people's most inherently sinister motives, just go to the book store. I guarantee you can find dozens of books by so-called experts who can "prove" to you exactly what happened in Dallas on November 22, 1963, and why it happened.

You and I know that not one single Southwest plane has fallen out of the sky and that the company is run by people who truly take their responsibilities seriously and conscientiously. But, we'll likely never convince the naysayers that Southwest is not just a collection of greedy and selfish people who take every chance to endanger their passengers and own employees just to pad the bottom line.

But, I still appreciate you and Luvin SWA and Tbone and Patrick and palespring and swaluver and Ryan and Bert Stevens and Julie and John C and Tucker and JD and the other people who support Southwest Airlines trying to be the voice of reason amidst all of this feeding frenzy. In time, I am convinced that Southwest will be recognized for their leadership and commitment in the area of safety, and until then, we'll just weather the storm.

Kim
External Blog Boy and just one of the many people who still LUV and support SWA :)

"Safety is job 1, paramount, sacred for an airline. There is no excuse for this Southwest. Any failure of management or management systems is the responsibility of the CEO and the board. One accident because of failed management systems, failed safety processes especially if induced by greed at the bottom is an unacceptable price to pay.

Just as there are criminal penalties for drunk pilots, there must be criminal penalties for senior managers who compromise customer and public safety for greed.

This is a shocking lapse in standards and perhaps a lengthy jail sentence would send the right signals to other airline management teams.

Sorry to be tough but it is that important."

Posted by: James Farrar | April 6, 2008 at 7:20 pm

I agree Mr. Farrar, "Safety IS job 1," and it IS that important.

"It is with great sadness that I have heard about the lack of maintenance on SWAÃ

Kim,

We can see the latest example of what you describe a couple of posts above yours in one from Frederick S. Simonie, M.D. The good doctor mentions: "I have heard about the lack of maintenance on SWAÃ

What is the world coming to? Now, you can't even trust SWA to keep you safe.
Thanks a lot for nothing Herb.

Ex Loyal Flyer

Personal observations from an RDU ramper.

Very busy weekend, with Carolina fans going to San Antonio for the Final Four basketball tournament, public school kids coming home from spring break week and the sudden shut-down of Skybus Airlines, meant that a lot of people were scrambling for the few available seats that were left. Definitely need to look into a massage therapist to work out the kinks after a weekend like this one. The point is, with everything happening this weekend, the overwhelming number of passengers traveling this weekend experienced no inconveniences, they were able to check-in, board their flight and arrive at their destination in a timely manner. The majority of these travelers I'm sure felt as though they received good value for their money.

The media wants to focus on the things that can and do go wrong with air travel and with the complexities of heightened security requirements, increased air traffic, high fuel costs, etc. there certainly are many opportunities to "point the finger", as it were, and claim the system is broken. The fact remains that ticket prices for the most part remain very reasonable for domestic travel (which is a big part of the reason for the majors focusing more on international routes) and despite all of the "hype" surrounding missed inspections and broken equipment, we are still in the safest stretch of accident-free commercial travel in aviation history. I am not arguing that the end justifies the means, but frequently when dealing with the Federal government, one must realize that many of their mandates are not based on any "real-world" estimation of exactly how long it takes to inspect 500+ aircraft and not cancel hundreds of flights in doing so (witness the American, Delta and Northwest fiascoes as they played catch-up last week).

The airlines certainly are not without culpability in the current turn-of-events. Poor communication with their customers regarding canceled flights, oversales, equipment failures and unfavorable weather conditions continue to feed the perception of an uncaring, disconnected megastructure, that has apparently forgotten the basic tenets of taking care of the customer. Downsizing, pay cuts and the continued deterioration of societal mores in general, have resulted in the most disturbing levels of bad customer service behavior among front-line employees at a time when the need for quality care is higher now than it has ever been. The public taste for getting more for less is also not based in reality and certainly ignores the basic economics that are currently going on in this industry. Everyone needs to wake up and acknowledge the fact that we are in the midst of a period of turbulent change and we will have to adjust our thinking accordingly.

Southwest Airlines 35 years ago established a reputation for providing basic transportation at a fair price. No frills, no in-flight movies, no fancy meals, just the basics of what you want from an airline, safe, comfortable point-to-point transportation at rates that everyone could afford. As the pressure to remain profitable has increased, the talking heads in Dallas have started to drift from that business model and started making some of the mistakes that others have before them. Despite all of that, despite the mistakes that have been made, the airline still runs the safest, most efficient and yes, most profitable operation in the industry. It is my belief that the answer lies in a return to the basics, that as price points from increased fuel costs continue to put pressure on the industry, the successful player will be the one that can maximize safe, timely performance and minimize overhead expenses. We cannot allow ourselves to sacrifice our core values and ultimately become like "all the rest".

Two ADs have been mentioned, for rudders and for the fuselage. No small potatoes here, both can bring a airplane down.

Quotes / see Link for full texts

2007-03-07 . 737 Rudder Control Rods, Inspection. This AD becomes effective February 16, 2007.
This AD results from a report of a fractured rod end of an input control rod of the main rudder power control unit (PCU) and a subsequent report of a fractured rod end of the input control rod of the standby rudder PCU. We are issuing this AD to prevent failure of one of the two input control rods of the main rudder PCU, which, under certain conditions, could result in reduced controllability of the airplane; and to prevent failure of any combination of two input control rods of the main rudder PCU and/or standby rudder PCU, which could cause an uncommanded rudder hard over event and result in loss of control of the airplane. Issued on January 25, 2007

2004-18-06. 737-200, -200C, -300, -400, and -500 series airplanes. Fuselage inspections. Effective Date; October 13, 2004. To find and fix fatigue cracking of certain upper and lower skin panels of the fuselage, which could result in sudden fracture and failure of the skin panels and consequent rapid decompression of the airplane,

FAA Source; Link > http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgAD.nsf/MainFrame?Op... And search by AD number

These are the 'suspected ADs' That's because the FAA has yet to released just what specific ADs were audited. No surprise there !!!!

Putting Your Trust in Southwest Airlines
Many of you know that Southwest Airlines has received a lot of media attention recently regarding the safety and inspections of our aircraft. I acknowledge that recent events may have caused some of you to doubt the trust you place in us, and for that I am very sorry.

When you step on one of our airplanes, it is a matter of trust that you will arrive safely at your destination, and we consider that trust to be sacred. Let me assure you, that no company is more passionate about the safety of our Customers and Employees than we are. While this space precludes a lot of detail, I want to take a few moments to highlight our Safety Culture and what we are doing to make a safe airline, even safer.

Since our inception, Southwest Airlines has safely transported the population of the United StatesÃ

Here's a qoute I found today 4/7.

" maintenance supervisor under Stuckey accepted a false written report in March 2007 from a Southwest manager saying that the carrier's planes were in compliance with federal rules, according to a report from the U.S. Office of Special Counsel.

Record Fine

Actually, the Southwest planes flew for eight days after the issue was verbally disclosed to the FAA and for four days after the false written report, according to the Special Counsel. The FAA last month proposed its largest-ever fine against an airline, $10.2 million, for the mistake. "

To those defending Southwest saying that they "self disclosed" so it sould all be forgotten, they flew for EIGHT days after the disclosure!!!
Self disclosure is how all the airlines operate because it would be impossible for the FAA to keep tabs on every issue at every airline. It is a big boy approach that Southwest abused.
Remember EIGHT days after the disclosure is criminal and I demand Southwest explain itself for the benefit of the poor souls who will fly Southwest in the future. I will never again!!!

Gary,
Thank you very much for choosing to add the Blog to the list of places where you are trying to explain your side of this issue. Coming here to address the people who are interested enough in the situation to be a part of the SWA Blog will hopefully read your words with an open mind and will believe what you've said.

Your remarks represent just one more example of how the Southwest management is being transparent and very visible during this time of public scrutiny. My concern is that as I discussed in my post a few posts above yours, those who supported SWA before still will, but those who didn't probably won't be swayed by your remarks. I'll predict that by tomorrow, there will be lots of replies below yours that will challenge what you've said and question your truthfulness.

But, it needed to be said, and I'm glad you did. You guys are still awesome in my book and for many people throughout the United States who KNOW the true Culture of Southwest.

Keep up the great job,
Kim
External Blog Boy

It's good that you continue to keep this comment section open.

Holy cow, I'll never fly your airline again.

Too all those who are slamming my company shame on you! Just today American Airlines canceled 500 flights for inspections! SWA is the safest airline around bar none. We only had a problem with a few planes how many planes did AA have a problem with, and is the media going to show the same zeal reporting about this as they did with SWA ? I doubt it. To all those loyal passengers out there standing by us THANK YOU! you are awsome to the rest try AA mabey you will like their record and prices better .

For all of you that stated you would NEVER fly SWA again....How did you like being stranded at the airport when your American Airlines flight has been cancelled for the past 2 days. Hope you all are happy now! If you would have flown good ole SWA..you would be there!!!!!

JC said:
"Just today American Airlines canceled 500 flights for inspections! "

The news just mentioned that they've now canceled over 1,100, or around half of their total scheduled flights for today. More cancellations are expected for Thursday, 4/10.

They're now saying 900 AA cancellations for Thursday 4/10... Ouch!

I realize that S/W was the first to be castigated in this recent unfavorable light. It comes with the territory. We now know there are others facing the same issues. Corrections must be made no doubt. Accountability must be owned; Of course!
I am sure that this organization will handle its' responsibilities to meet all safety regulations for the traveling public. Just do it and maintain it. We are then depending on S/W, to keep its' equipment in maximum operating order.
I have had only one experience with SouthWest Airline, It was efficient and quite pleasant. Competent and knowledgeable employees, make S/W the great airline that it is, from the "bottom" to the top. Thank You for the opportunity to post this comment.

A. Joy
Raleigh, NC

Hey Herb--

Why don't you take a bold step here? Announce a new commitment to be the safest airline ever. Hire those guys from the FAA as your new safety inspection leaders and give the press free access to them as they audit all your internal safety practices. Show us just how committed you are and you can win us back.

But this recent history of deny, deny, deny is teaching a whole new generation of people the lessons your generation learned from President Richard M. Nixon. Remember, in case you forgot: the cover-up is almost always worse than the original crime.

Greg
New York City

Southwest Planes Had Cracks an Inspection Might Have Found

WASHINGTON Ã

For those of you who say that all SWA employees should feel ashamed and embarrassed to be a part of this company:

I have been a PROUD employee for over 6 years. At this moment, I am very PROUD of my company. I will feel truly BLESSED to be a part of this company for many more years to come.

I am a PROUD SWA Flight Attendant and have NEVER worried about my safety or the safety of our wonderful passengers.

Those of you who remain loyal to SWA, we LUV you!

[...] hearings and left it open for readers to respond.Â

Just wondering, how does Gary, Herb, and all Southwest fanatics and employees feel about the two SWA whistleblowers?

Funny, still can't get an answer from anyone on the the SWA complaint about Bobby which the Inspector General found to be completely baseless.

Very cowardly by SWA.

I have been a flight attendant for over 22 years with 4 different airlines. I am now at SWA. Why? You figure it out the next time you are flying American or US Airways.

People, the entire airline industry is probably infected with the bad behaviour many of you are attributing to SWA. Switching airlines doesn't seem like too smart a move. Demanding and receiving honourable service as a repayment for loyalty seems like a better way. Let's see how SWA resets itself.

To my SWA family...we will get though this. We are a family that believes and know that our company (we) will go the extra mile to insure safety, great customer service, community service in each city that we fly to and lower fares
to our customers. We know who we are.. SWA! I am a proud flight attendant
and when I step on that plane with my flight crew, safety is our number one concern..and you all know that we check and cross check before pushing an aircraft. We have millions of loyal customers who still believes in us.
Go out there with your head held high and continue to spread that LUV!!!
We don't have time for haters, we have an airlines to run!

I am so glad to hear from employees also I have NEVER

EVER been afraid to step on a SWA plane and have worked in res for 13 yrs. I realize that it is different than being a flight attendant who steps on a plane everyday, but I like the feling of when I do fly knowing that I work for the SAFEST airline in the world. There aren't many that can even come close to that statement! To all the mechanics and all airport personel, inflight and pilots keep up the great work and I will be seeing you next month when I go to LAS.

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