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A MESSAGE FROM OUR CEO - OPEN SEASON ON ASSIGNED SEATING

I’m new to this whole blogosphere thing but I have really enjoyed
reading all of the comments and am humbled that so many people are as
enthusiastic and nuts about Southwest as we are.

I wanted to address some of the recent comments about Southwest’s
seating policy. There’s been quite a bit of buzz both in the media and
on this blog about our current open seating policy and my recent
comments (at Shareholder’s Day on May 17) about our consideration of
changing to assigned seating in the future. So, as the saying goes,
here’s the scoop “straight from the horse’s mouth.”

At Southwest, quick, efficient operations and our desire to give the
Customer what they want have been the keys to our 35 years of success.
Everything we do at Southwest takes into account maintaining the
delicate balance between operational efficiency and providing the
Positively Outrageous Service that our Customers have come to expect
from Southwest. One of the most common requests for change from our
Customers is to add assigned seating. Obviously, many of our current
Customers enjoy the open seating, so it’s not a unanimous request.
However, we do listen intently to our Customers and do our best to give
them what they want so it only makes sense to extensively research and
evaluate this possibility.

Open seating has allowed us to build a highly efficient operation by
keeping the time our aircraft are sitting at our gate to a minimum.
Aircraft on the ground don’t make money! But it’s no secret that all
airlines – even Southwest – are facing extensive cost pressures due to
the rising price of fuel and we have to find ways to generate
additional revenue.

Our Customer Service technology has evolved to the point that
assigning seats may prove to be an efficient way for Southwest to board
the aircraft. Our computer reservation system is undergoing an upgrade
and, while we are in the “remodeling” effort, we are adding the
technical capability to assign seats. This does not mean we will;
rather, it means we will be prepared to assign seats, if we so choose.

We are currently conducting extensive research and if our research and testing (which some of you may be involved with)
proves that we can bring in more Customers (without alienating our
existing Customers) and increase overall Customer satisfaction, but at
the same time not increase our boarding times or our costs, then I
don’t see a reason not to do it. I haven’t given any time frame – just
that it won’t happen next year.

I know that several of you have commented that you don’t want the
current seating policy to go away because you see it as a part of what
makes Southwest “Southwest,” but I’ll remind you that many people felt
the same way when we transitioned from plastic boarding cards to
electronic boarding cards. Things change and we can’t ignore that fact.
One thing that will never change, however, is our dedication to you –
our Customer – and we will always make decisions with your best
interests in mind.

So, stay tuned…we promise to keep you informed of this and all of
the changes at Southwest. And keep telling us what you want, we LUV
hearing from you and we appreciate your business!

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Gary,
Welcome to the world of blogging! I'm sure you'll catch on quickly, but if not, the very experienced Colleen will no doubt be able to give you a hand! ha ha

Wow, this would be a huge change and is much bigger than giving up the plastic boarding cards. I was in therapy for months and months after that one... Seriously, you are well aware of "our" concerns that SWA retain its unique atmosphere, and our fears that our favorite airline might evolve into something we don't recognize. Darrell Royal was famous for saying, and in fact, titled a book with the phrase, 'Dance with who brung ya', suggesting that you need to stick with what made you what you are. We all know the expression, 'If it ain't broke, don't fix it', although we need to check from time to time to see if "it" is broken or not.

We all want what is best for SWA, and as shareholders and passengers, we have to trust you to constantly seek that out. We would ask you to not rush headlong into something too scary for us to adapt to, though, since you know that one of the scariest words in the English language is "change"! We're proud that SWA has always led the way as an innovator, and we don't want our favorite airline becoming an "us too" set of folks. Remember that just because everyone else is doing something, it isn't necessarily the best way to do it.

So, if you must implement assigned seating (gasp!), let's borrow an idea from the recent compromise. How about a scheduled phase-in over time. Say 75 years?

Please keep us posted, but above all, keep up the fantastic job you're doing!

I LUV y'all,
Kim

I am a business traveler and donÃ

Boo! Hiss! NO! NO! NO! No reserved seating.

There's a big difference between plastic boarding cards and electronic ones. They basically do the same thing. Reserved seating will destroy the one of the things I like about Southwest, namely, the open seating.

When I would say "everyone is doing it" as a kid, I remember my mom would say "if everyone is jumping off a bridge, would you do it, too?" Don't become like the other airlines by offering reserved seating like the other airlines.

The system works; don't fix it!

the current seating process works well..in fact i think it benefits the "regular traveler" quite well..flying fairly often I always have a reminder in place to check in on line...those who get a C are usually those In- frequent flyers.

as a regular I book maybe max 2 weeks in advance...and i would hate to get a bad seat becasue mommy daddy and 3 kids all over 10 years old ..and grandma and grandpa are booking six months in advance for their one trip in ten years...and BTW they fake a limp and pre-board anyway ....

so as a very regular business and personal customer .. I like it the way it is.. suspect those who want assigned seats are not the biggest contributors to your revenue..

I have flown SW since it's inception. I have also flown every major carrier in the US and several abroad. SW is the best and don't mess
with such a success. I can only imagine it is a few cry babies that want assigned seating.

When I've fling for business and dressed accordingly and paying full fare I want assigned seats because I may arrive latee and don't want to sit next to kids etc. When I'm on vacation its different.

Please consider something like this-Make the front let's say five rows a virtual first class cabin

1. Full fare passengers get assigned seats in the virtual first class cabin and board first.

2. Remainign passengers board in exisitng groups.

3. If all seatsin rows behind row six are filled other passengers can take front seats.

I'm sure you guys could simplfy this and it would encourage business flying while not getting rid of the unassgned seating

I am on an airplane about 10 times each month. I can tell you from first hand experience that your current boarding system is
faster than any other airline I fly. The zone system doesn't work - and loading from back to front wasn't that efficient when
implemented. The only way to really get passengers in and seated quickly is not to allow wheel luggage. That is what takes
forever. I realize that this is only anecdotal evidence - but I have seen it over and over again. If you could assure passengers that luggage will not be lost, you would have less time loading passangers. United Express doesn't allow luggage - because there
is no room. Check out that system at O'Hare. Your seating system is the best; on a full load I can be in the C group and still sit in
the front of the plane in a middle seat. I am one of the first ones off - which is terrific for me. I luv to fly with you - keep up the good work and good luck with your test.

Eva Erskine Chicago, IL

Norm, assigned seating can never guarantee that you will not "sit next to kids etc."

My vote is also, "it ain't broke; don't fix it."

No assigned seating. As others mentioned my travel is usually booked last minute and having assigned seats would require me get the short end of the stick. If it were assigned I'd think it is best for connecting flights to vacation hot spots that are usually booked.

Apparently it is time for those who like the open seating policy to speak up. So count this as one more vote from a Rapid Rewards
member for no assigned seating. That is one of the worst parts of flying with other airlines. Waiting for boarding group 5 or whatever
and then getting back to window seat to mind that the aisle and middle seats are already full so two people have to get up for me.
Plus the overhead bin is already full of coats, etc. I much prefer SWA where I can get my A or B boarding pass and go straight to a
window seat near the back of the plane and get out of the way of everyone else boarding.

Norm: Your idea would cost more than all-reserved seating!

To paraphrase a campaign of SWA: SET SEATING FREE!

I've been flying Southwest for many years and one of the best things that I've liked about Southwest is open seating. I fly quite
frequently for business as well as pleasure. Because of business needs, I have to book flights most of the time in less than 7
days. By having assigned seats, I would most likely be forced to sit in the "back of the bus". Assigned seating would not be
any different from other airlines, that's one of the unique things about Southwest is that they are different by offering open seating. Because Southwest doesn't fly to a lot of desinations that other airlines (ie, Continental) service, I have still flown with Southwest
and then taken a rental car to get to my original desination. Airlines pricing are very competitive and I can fly other airlines for the
same price, by having assigned seating, I would most likely use other airlines.
Please listen to your faithful customers.

Thank You,
Stephen

The lack of assigned seating *IS* the major factor that makes Southwest stand out from the rest of the major airlines. One time, some friends and I indepently booked flights to Phoenix. None of us knew we all were on the same flight until we were at the airport. With Southwest's open seating, we were able to sit together. On more than one occaision, I've had to book travel the night before a meeting. When flying Southwest, I will, at worst, get a "C" card; Even if I was the 137th person to check-in, I still can arrive early enough at the airport to get near the front of the "C" line and still end up with a decent seat. The bonus is that if I'm not on a non-stop flight, I can change seats at the first stop before other passengers board. Or, consider flights out of MCO, which tend to have a higher number of early boarding passengers with small children. Currently my wife and I can choose seats that are some distance from fussier passengers.

With assigned seating, all of those options go away.

Please, please keep open seating. One pilot of yours told me that open seating saves you all a lot of money. I laso ike being able to pick my seat. Please, please keep open seating.

I fly alot!!! I hate assigned seating. First come first seated has worked for years and you shouldn't change it. Its one of the main
reasons i fly SWA and not AA. I carry on all the time and don't want to see that go away either. If its not broke don't fix it.

Wow - this is obviously a hot-button item for many. You've gotten 13 responses in just three hours, I think that is a record (so far) for this blog.

The best choice would be for ME to have an assigned seat, and everybody else gets open boarding But since that probably won't happen . . .

Don't forget, SWA is more than just airplanes, and great people, and great prices (BTW, right now ELP to LAS costs more on SWA than ORD to LAS on AA), and SetLoveFree - SWA is also about being just a little quirky. Keep the quirk of open seating, it sets you just that much further apart than those other guys. Southwest isn't just an airline for us passengers, it's a culture!

And if you clicked on the link in Gary Kelly's post, it takes you to a USA Today article. Be sure to read the very last paragraph - SWA is #6, headed towards #5, and already carries more domestic passengers than any other U.S. carrier.

Please keep the opening seating! I LUV it, but still want to work for this airline even if you assign seats. Southwest will always be my favorite airline!

WOW...twice...WOW
First, thank you Gary for taking the time to communicate directly with our Blogging Customers on this issue. Hearing it "straight from the horses mouth" allows more of our Customers to gain a better understanding of the what, why and how of Southwest Airlines recent exploration about changing our seating policy.
Second, for all the times we have heard about the drawbacks and Customer complaints about our Open Seating policy, this was an real eye opener! I hadn't realized that a strategy had been born by our late booking Business Customers that really worked to their advantage when it came to Open Seating. You folks are very clever!!
To help calm the unrest I am hearing from these comments, I would only add...rest easy my friends, we at Southwest Airlines, should we learn that Assigned Seating is our destiny, will find a unique and more egalitarian approach to it than those other guys!

The only assigned seats on a Southwest plane should be the pilots' and the flight attendants' seats.

A frequent business & pleasure traveller, I continue to be impressed by Southwest. There is no better or more helpful flying organization. Yes the Wall Street Journal makes silly comments about your seating policy but then...... ! Your seating policy/methods are fine ; they work well for me and apparently for many of your other passengers as well. If they also work well for you too then leave well alone and look for some more of your clever ideas to stay ahead of the look-alike pack. For example: that brilliant master stroke of hedging your fuel purchases!!l

This is a tough one. The one problem that i have with open seating is when i arrive at the airport an hour and a half earl, get
checked in within ten minutes, head to the gate there is already a line of people in all sections. So to get a good seat I have to
wait in the line for over an hour. If you did assigned seating you could board just like you did in the past. The first group of thirty.
I am flying home in July from San Diego to ABQ, so hopefully i can see how it would work. I wish you guys the best of luck.

Thanks for the explanation and discussion!

There are two reasons why I love open seating on SWA--and they're a big part of why I always book SWA whenever I can.

First is, I'm tired of all the levels you see with other airlines and in other situations: Diamond Platinum Preferred, Mega-Titanium Gold Crest, or whatever. I really appreciate the fact that with Southwest, we're all people who are trying to fly somewhere, and everyone else's need to get somewhere is just about as important as mine. I just love Southwest.

Second is that I'm someone who far more prefers to know who I'm sitting by rather than where I'm sitting--I actually prefer boarding later and getting to pick a seat that isn't in front of a restless child (though I otherwise love children), or beside The Guy With The Broadest Shoulders In North America. I can take a nice middle seat between two folks knowing that we can all sit comfortably; I can sit beside someone who looks like they want to quietly read (I'm a librarian, after all) or I can pick someone who smiles and makes eye contact and wants to chat. Not only do I love Southwest, I really enjoy so many of our fellow fliers.

I'll understand if SWA ends up changing the seating policy--the fares are also fantastic and I would understand the "bottom line" decision--but as it stands now, I'm an evangelist for Southwest. I'm positive that a seating policy change will definitely change that feeling.

Whew, and everyone thought the Wright Amendment was a sensitive subject!

Methinks Gary hath just firmly grabbed the third rail!!

Kim :)

Francisco: check in online 24 hours before your flight to secure your "A" boarding pass. When you get to the gate, simply hop onto the end of the "A" line when it is nearly done boarding and you will get a decent seat without the hour-long wait. There is no need to wait in line when you have an "A" pass.

Southwest Airlines is always my first choice, unless I have to fly somewhere SWA does not fly. I prefer not to have assigned
seating, I'm happy with the 24 hour before your flight Check-in. I never have a problem getting "A" boarding and always in the
first 10 rows. The Southwest employees are always happy and very friendly. I hope someday to work for SWA.

Laura

Kim's post above is the best - made me laugh - hard!

Methinks Gary hath just firmly grabbed the third rail!!

Thanks for the giggle Kim!

As an SWA weekly traveler for over 5 years the only possible reason I can imagine for changing to assigned seating would be in order
to charge extra for certain seats or rows, i.e. exit rows, front of plane, but you wouldn't do that.......... would you ?

WOW! Y'all aren't shy about sharing your opinions, and we are very grateful that you are participating in our blog and Gary's post. All of your comments will be shared with our Leaders, and I know that Gary thanks you for contributing. We also appreciate your loyalty and support as Southwest Customers and friends. It's very obvious that you are "Nuts about Southwest"! Keep in mind that we are still a couple of years away from making a firm decision on this subject, and our testing and your comments will all go into the mix of that decision.

Brian

Well, let me provide some salt in the Kool Aid being drunk here:

I hate open seating. Hate it. Feels just like getting on a bus in elementary school, complete with passive aggressive oafs putting bags bags and coats on seats to "save them." I only fly Southwest when I cannot get a decent routing/price on American, my preferred carrier. I will WILLINGLY pay a premium of 20 percent or more to fly in civilized comfort.

Assign seats, and I'll consider Southwest. Until then I'll avoid the cattle cars.

Blue in Austin

You'd pay a 20% or more premium for an assigned seat? A Thomas Tusser quote springs to mind! That seems quite a price to pay to avoid the apparently daunting task of simply walking on a plane and planting your rear in any one of 137 seats.

Hi!
Thanks for posting about the tough decisions you have to make.

I think that the open seating policy has so many perks. I booked a last minute flight for father's day and on my return ride, i got to sit in an exit row with extra leg room! If there was assigned seating, i would NEVER have that opportunity.

I think that the most important issue is that open seating keeps costs low. And in turn, you pass that savings along to the passengers. Making seats assigned will probably add another layer of costs and headaches.

I had to book a flight on another carrier recently (yes, i know sadly), but it was a wierd question from the agent, "what seat would you like, window or aisle?" it took me a second to realize what she was asking since it's not in my usual booking process to state what seat i want.

I hope that your research goes well and that you would take the time to poll all flyers. Perhaps you could make a small survey the next time people book online.

Thanks for all your hard work and for making my flying experiences so enjoyable.

Hello,

I think this is the second worst idea, the first being the dropping of the extra bonus credits.

Why would Southwest want to waste my time, the GA time, the FA time with these silly seat assignments?

What a waste of more time.

Good Luck.

I avoided SWA for a long time because of the open seating but lower prices, expansion to NH, and my wife's insistence changed that and I have gotten used to the idea.

I don't think assigned seating is necessary but I do think that open seating needs some adjustment. I'll point out three issues that matter to me as a customer.

* competition for the A group is entirely out of control now that people can print boarding passes so far ahead of time. Something has to be done to get some balance back there for people who are traveling on a return leg of a trip and are checking in at the airport. I have better things to do on vacation or a business trip than go to a business center to print out a pass in the middle of the night.

* speaking of groups. Have more than three groups... use six or seven groups so they are smaller. This seems like a way to make people less anxious about being in the front of the line for their group and might reduce the number of people camped out on the floor at the gates.

* we don't have kids and like other people who have commented above, I like to pick a seat away from small children if possible. The problem is... when a family is at the end of the C group and boards late the parents have to put their children into any open seat they can find so suddenly other travelers have to deal with that kid for the entire flight while the parents are 10 rows away. That is not fair to the kid, the parent, or the other customers... especially if the kid is scared or airsick or whatever. No one wins when this happens and I have seen it happen.

I'm not saying that they should just go into the A group but find a way to keep young children next to their parents. For example, two parents and two kids don't need four seats together but two pairs of seats solves the problem. That is really for the benefit of everyone else on the plane in my opinion.

Geoff: With regard to needing "to print out a pass in the middle of the night," you can now check in 24 hours prior to your flight time, even using your cell phone's web browser! You need not actually print the boarding pass you receive (impossible to do via mobile check-in). You can get a reprint in your respective boarding group from an agent or kiosk at the airport.

...as long as I can get my row 9/10 emergency exit seat complete with extra leg room from BWI to PHX, I'm fine.

But... don't mess with the best.

As a frequent business traveler, I really enjoy the open seating. I often have to book my travel within a 2 week time frame and I like that everyone, has the same chance at a good seat no matter when they bought their ticket. Generally booking later I pay a higher price for my ticket and with more traditional airlines, I end up with the worst seats. I switched and remained totally commited to your airline because off the open seating policy. I strongly suggest that you allow people to continue to pick their seat on the plane. It's the reason I keep coming back to your airline.

Too bad that Gary couldn't find a topic to discuss that would stir people's passions! To "Blue in Austin", and to others who complain about open seating, pre-printing boarding passes via Internet access and kids scattered throughout the plane, I would suggest the old warning, "caveat emptor" -- let the buyer beware.

In any transaction, you should know what you are getting yourself into. Also known as "making an informed decision". SWA is well-known for its open seating policy, and yet for years and years, I hear people walking down the jetways complaining. "Well, here we are going down the cattle chute" and "they herd us in like sheep" and "stuffed in like sardines in a small plane" and the common sound made by the class clown now a bit older and playing to a different audience, "Mooooooo". However, these people who are complaining are ones who made the choice to fly on SWA, even though other airlines offer staggered seating calls to reduce jetway congestion, no pushing and shoving for that coveted aisle or window seat (or to avoid the center seat), larger planes than 737s offering more seat pitch (airline-speak for legroom and knee room), and even a first-class cabin for those wanting to be pampered even more.

Why do people consistently gripe about some of the attributes about SWA and yet return again and again? Maybe they are masochists, or maybe, they are willing to put up with certain inconvenience to save some money and/or time. Most (not all) of SWA's flights are short-haul and rarely exceed 90 minutes. Believe me, I've spent my share of time in the center seat between two large people. But, for what I am paying and for the relatively short time period, I can handle it.

People choose strange things to gripe about because it is some people's nature to gripe. I've heard people on airlines that serve what they refer to as a "meal" saying things like, "well, my meat is tough", "my sandwich is...", "this serving of fruit..." Folks need to remember that they are paying for transportation from point A to point B. If you want a good meal, go to a restaurant. If you want a great meal, go to a great restaurant. Either way, stay OFF of an airplane. Airlines do not exist to provide a superb culinary experience, just like restaurants do not exist to get you from Dallas Love to Houston Hobby.

People complain about having to be near kids on a plane for sixty minutes, but they don't demand to be isolated away from anyone below the age of 12 in a restaurant for an hour. If people would adjust their expectations to what the service will deliver, they wouldn't be so disappointed or irritated so often. You know what the SWA experience is like when you buy your ticket (unless you've been living in a cave for 35 years), and if the anticipated experience is not satisfactory to you, then choose another airline! Spend your money to fly first-class in a large seat with lots of pitch and better food in an environment where few parents of small kids can afford to park their youngsters and have a great time.

I'd prefer to save the money and peacefully co-exist with my fellow cattle...oops, I mean passengers.

I'll also leave the mooooooing to the cows that work for Chick-fil-A...

Kim :)

P. S. -- Jim, thanks for the kind words! ("KimÃ

Gary,
Where are the comments from those customers asking for change? I doubt that among your fan base they are legion. From what I see here, your loyal customers are passionate to keep things as they always have been...simple, easy, and with the freedom to move about the cabin as well as the country. I'll add my voice to theirs for all the reasons previously listed. Sometimes I want a window, sometimes an aisle. Front? Back? Middle? I never know until I board the aircraft and look down that long, beautiful expanse of comfy leather seats before me. Hey...there's a really cute girl. I'll sit here!

I fly a little. I suppose I you could say that as I do have a Companion Pass. I prefer the present method of seating. I have had to fly other airlines, and it gets very irritating. You'd think if there was going to be assigned seats, they would board back to front. Well, they board by groups (Group 1 thru 6 perhaps). It could just as easily be A thru C. Anyway, they intermix people in the front, the back etc in each group. Now that my friend, is ineffieciency. They let the frequent flyers and first class enter first, then evryone else. So they have people standing in line, in the middle of the plane so the lady or gentleman that wants row 7, seat F can get his bags situated and then get out of the isle. The same thing happens on Southwest today with unassigned seating. The difference, people are looking for an open seat, not a ROW NUMBER, and the Southwest way is faster. You will never see an AA plane boarded faster.

The only thing I can think of that will help reduce boarding time is telling people they can have one carry on, and one computer, and the carry on has to fit into the container. Period !!! I can't tell you how many times I have seen people carry on a bag they know will not fit, and then have to give it up to the flight attendent in the back of the plane, and she has to wait until everyone is boarded, and then has to struggle with carrying it to the front. Yes, I have offered to carry bags for several to the front. I generally sit in the back of the plane on most flights...I like it.

Now if you want to give a preference to the frequent flyers, you could allow everyone with a Companion Pass to board first. I wrote Colleen with that suggestion quite a long time ago.

I have protested the Wright Amendment forever. I don't live in the Dallas area anymore, but I still protest it everytime I think about it. You see, Southwest is Southwest. American doesn't like Southwest because it is profitable, the employees are happy, flights get in and out, etc. You said yourself, a plane on the ground is not making money. You cannot speed up boarding by having assigned seats. Further to this, you would kill people like me, the frequent fliers, that book flights maybe three to seven days in advance.

Again, Southwest is Southwest. I prefer it, that is why I fly it. I prefer unassigned seats. Why would you want to change to make yoursel more like the other airlines? Bad mistake. I hear people gripe about having to wait in line all the time. It seems it is always the people that fly very infrequent that complain. They complain about waiting in line. Well, guess what my friend, they wait to board the other airlines, they just wait in a "bunch," not a line. Same difference. You have to be at the airport an hour or so early whether you are flying Southwest or one of the others. What is the difference?

And by the way, to those of you that can't stand flying next to a kid, or may be griping because a Mother and Child get on at the end, with one seat next to you, and one 10 rows away....shame on you for not giving up your seat and trading with the Mother!!!!!!

PLEASE DO NOT CHANGE A THING! SOUTHWEST IS SOUTHWEST! YOU ARE A LEADER, NOT A FOLLOWER!!!

Have a blessed day!
John - Claremore, OK

I fly every week - sometimes twice a week. Southwest is my choice because I know I will get front seating. I usually print my boarding pass early enough that I get in group A.
My complaint is not enforcing the two carry-ons and the size of the carry-ons. I have had to check my laptop case because there was not room overhead but there were suites that took up half of the overhead storage.

I don't like the concept of assigned seating.

Hi Gary, how about making some of the seats reservable. I'd pay more for the privilege. Like the emergency exit rows and the seats around them. They are premium seats for us business travellers. All the folks trying to board early to get seats up front are kept happy - the folks that don't care that much, well, they don't care. And us snobby business travellers that want those kind few inches to work in get what we're after. And, SWA makes more money.

In response to Geoff from New Hampshire. I have traveled many times with my children on Southwest and when there were not
seats available for my family to sit together the Flight Attendants would always try to accommodate us by politely asking if
someone would mind giving up their seat so we could sit together. Of course, this "kind passenger" who would do this for us
has always be rewarded. "This is how Southwest works!" As far as assigned seating, testing and time will tell. I have a lot of
LUV and faith in Southwest and believe that the external and internal customers will always be provided the BEST! I enjoyed
reading this Blog, it definitely has gotten a lot of responses in a very short time.

Hopefully, Mister Kelly realizes now that many of us like open seating. That's one of the tough things about customer service is that customers don't complain until you try to take something away that they like. Perhaps Southwest execs never realized how much some of us like open seating.

I worked in the hotel business for almost three years. One thing I learned from a Holiday Inn trainer is that it costs $50 to keep an old customer, but it costs $500 to get a new one. Don't risk alienating your old customers with the hope that you might bring in other ones. Let the small minority complain about open seating. Screw the _Wall Street Journal_.

As a SWA employee, it's really nice to read that you LUV us...
just the way we are. I too have always liked the open seating...
most of the time. As a Flight Attendant, open seating becomes a
challenge when a family traveling with children arrives at the airport late
then must run onto the airplane hoping to find seats together.

Our passengers usually help us out as we have to scramble and
switch customers around to allow the late family to sit together with
their children. To all of you that might have helped us accomodate one of these
late arriving familes by giving up your seat and maybe having to take a back center seat yourself...
THANK YOU! Thank you for working with us to keep our airplanes on time!

It's all about keeping our airplanes on time and at the same time, keeping
our Customers happy! Let's see how this "test run" goes.

Often I travel with a disabled fiend that is in a wheelchair. The airlines that have open seating are a LOT better for us, as wheelchair users get put on first and I can then choose the seat that gives the easiest lifting. Booking clerks are just useful at choosing seats for disabled people as they donÃ

Gary, can you feel the LUV yet for open seating? I can. It's great, isn't it? There are lots of interesting comments in this list that has been created in such a short time. It seems open seating is the preferred method of travel for the largest portion of domestic travelers! What a great thing.

As the leader in domestic travel, for numerous reasons (open seating seems to be one), certainly when you start hitting Cancun and Hawaii, you will be the leader in and out as well. What a concept !!! I know, it hasn't been mentioned, but it sure sounds good! So, when are you starting???? Are you going to include Puerto V and Acapulco as well?

Please please do not take away open seating! It is one of the main reasons why I choose SWA over everyone else. If you want to make a change, I'd be very happy if you'd offer service to Bangor, Maine so I can fly SWA when I travel to visit the family... *grin*

Thanks,

-Dj

NO, NO, NO to assigned seating. This is is one of the few perks you give your best customers (other than my companion pass). As others have stated, we know the system, know how to get a A pass, know that unless we have to sit near the front to make a connection, we can wait until the end of the A line and still get an exit row seat most of the time and an aisle or window all of the time. If you decide to make this cahnge, I cannot stress enough the need to make some accomodations for your best customers (ie- full fare, companion pass etc). If you want to speed up the boarding process, then all preboarders other than wheel chair passengers should sit in the back of the plane, not the front. Pre-board should also mean post-depart.

As a long time customer of Southwest and a Companion Pass holder, I'm very much against assigned seating! First-come, first-served seating is one of the truly unique aspects of the Southwest experience and is the number one reason I select WN over other carriers. I like making a last-minute reservation....or a last minute flight change....knowing that at the 24 hour mark I have an equal chance at getting my desired aisle seat.

I am not a fan of open seating, but I am a fan of Southwest, so I cope with it. I would, however, be really appreciative of some improvement in the boarding procedures. The cattle call is truly an accurate assessment of the boarding process on many crowded flights. I know the system, so I know what to expect (and print my boarding card early and arrive to the airport with plenty of time to spare when I can), but there has to be some civility in the process. If the system calls for folks to line up, and they do so very early, so be it. My problem gets to be when others decide that they do not have to wait in line and decide to jump ahead. I have witnessed near fist fights from such behavior in the past. Other times passengers have just said "I'm not sitting on the floor" as if that gives them license to move to the front of the line. If these issues could be ironed out, I'd be more supportive. Can't we all just get along (in line)?

I couldn't help myself - I saw Dave's posting above (11th reply) and I just had to start a website called SetSeatingFree.com. I cannot believe what a hot topic this has become.

So grab your Kool Aid and go to http://www.setseatingfree.com/

I need to set up a forum and website for my company by August 15, so this will be good practice.

WOW!! This topic sure does stir up the passion in our Customers. As a SWA Flight Attendant,
there is only ONE reason I would vote for assigned seating. That is so we wouldn't have to stand
in the exit row to "qualify" our Customers to sit there. You would get rid of us taking up your space
to ensure that everyone is physically able and willing to assist in the event of an emergency, since
that "qualifying" might possibly be done at the ticket counter or by the Operations agent. Anyway,
just a thought.

Thanks to everyone for taking the time to comment on this topic.
James Malone
Chicago - Midway Flight Attendant

I doubt that any new system lacking an elite preference feature can match my current nearly 100% aisle seat success rate. I got "A" boarding passes and aisle seats twice this week even when booking 18 hours before long-haul flights that were totally full. You just can't do that with the other guys unless you have elite status and perhaps not even then. JetBlue's first-come first-served assigned seating is particularly bad, leaving the late bookers paying top fares for middle seats.

Please don't change the current system on the whim of people who haven't flown Southwest since plastic boarding cards and have no idea how well A/B/C works. Those new customers won't stay with you if they don't like whatever new system you come up with. Better to give them a chance to get to know today's system: I mean really to get to know it.

My idea? Consider mailing a conquest promotion to other airlines' elite members, offering triple Rapid Rewards credits and guaranteeing an "A" for every flight during the next 3 months. Once the new customer has flown a few times, he will know the value of getting an A and he can get his own A the regular way. By then if you ask him whether Southwest should switch to assigned seating, his answer will be a resounding NO.

If targeting this promotion is a problem, just offer a less generous verion to everyone on a one-time basis, starting in the traditionally weak fall travel season.

I have always enjoyed open seating... set my cell phone 24 hrs out, log on and
print that most coveted A line boarding pass... The idea of assigned seating
shakes one of the pillars that Southwest was built on. But if we must seriously
look at this as a possibilityÃ

Southwest's seating policy is the main reason that I will go on any other airline that I can find to avoid the cattle car
mad rush to get in line for the flight. I travel by air 40 weeks a year, time is a valuable commodity to me and the need
to be at the airport and in line to get decent seat is pain. With assigned seating, obtained on-line just like the
SW A,B,C flight ticket would allow more effective use of the business travellers time.

Please go to assigned seats, it will give me about 4 extra work hours in each week and give you a larger share of my $200K travel budget.

Don't change. With a little discipline and paying attention to cut off times I can get a priority for A group. This permits me to avoid sitting near babies or travellers with a wide girth that probably should have a seat and a half. Passengers pick Southwest due to cost, frequency of flights and on time flights. John Barnicle

Its about time you gave some thought to stop putting customers on like cattle. I have seen people standing in line, A,& B, an hour before the airplane was even on the ground. As for the business traveler who gets those last minute tickets he is probablyl
in the "C" line anyhow and gets whats left over from the "A" and "B" clients.

Not having assigned seating is the only real complaint I have about flying Southwest.

I only flew Southwest twice, and only because everyone else in my group wanted to fly it. Open seating isn't bad when there is
a group, as it allows everyone to sit together. But I will never ever fly Southwest solo, and will only fly as a last resort with a group because I absolutely detest having to wait in line for ages. I've travelled domestic and international regularly since I was 3mos old (going on 42yrs), and the last thing I want to do at an airport is be forced to sit in a line and stress about where I'll end up sitting.
I much prefer flying an airline that allows me to choose my seat at least 24hrs in advance so I know where I'll be before getting to
the airport. If I want an exit row, bulkhead or chance at an upgrade(on airlines with Business and First Class), I arrive at the airport
early enough to request it. But once I've checked in for the flight, I prefer to be free to wander the shops and go to the bathroom until it is
time to board the flight. I spend enough time sitting in one spot on a plane, I don't need to prolong it in the terminal as well!

If Southwest offers pre-assigned seating, I am very likely to start using it for my domestic travel needs. I don't mind paying an extra
$10-20 for the extra service. And the idea of creating a "first class" for folks who want assigned seating, with a little more legroom
and wider seats, is a very good one! Air Tran has the right idea there.

Keep the current seating process. Otherwise, you'll be just like all the others and I'll have no reason to pick Southwest. It works. Don't change it.

We usually get a chance to fly once or twice a year and always look for flights on SWA. I don't really mind the cattle call type of seating as long as I remember to get a seating pass. Recently we flew to Tampa and I thought of an idea that might speed up the boarding time. Would it be possible to board from the rear of the plane because most people want to sit up front. That way there would not be as many people in the aisle.
Also, we've booked a flight to Hawaii in October and I check every day to see if you lower the price. I wish you had a system that would notify me when the fares are reduced. I also check for a friend who is going to the Ravens Game in Tampa in September. He is an over the road truck driver so I check twice a day for both of us.

Because of your low fares you made it possible for a family to travel more often.

Thanks
Joe

Please continue to look into assigning seats. My husband and fly a lot both for business and pleasure and use Southwest as our first choice whenever we can. We are in the Baltimore area and can take advantage of the hub at BWI. Southwest has consistently made improvements to the travel experience by changing out the plastic boarding cards and allowing more time to book those passes on line but why the extra steps? When we book the flight online we should be able to book our seat. Job done. No more panic that we might miss the window to book the boarding pass. Southwest.....it's time to assign seating.

I've never flown on Southwest simply because I want to know ahead of time where I'm going to sit. The prices that Southwest charges isn't that much different than other airlines with assigned seating. If Southwest wants my business, assigned seating is a must.

When I travel alone, Southwest is fine as I don't really care where I sit as long as it is on the plane. But, when I travel with the family (4 of us), I prefer assigned seats. When we went to Orlando in April on Air Tran, it was nice to get to the airport and not have to stand in the boarding line 45 minutes ahead of time to try and get seats together.

I am the highest level frequent flyer at a competing airline flying 120+ flights per year. I also utlize Southwest but only when necessay. The reason is lack of assigned seating and priviledge to a frequent flyer. I would change many of my flights to Southwest, as many as 50-75 per year, if there accomodations were made for high level frequent flyers. Either reserved seats could be avaiable for us such as certain aisles and of course the choice emergency exit rows or open seating, but , We would be able to board after the pre boards and before the A,B and C. This would give us access to the preferred seats, overheads and find seats that are away from the preboard families. Different from an earlier blog, preboard families should be at the front. A screaming child in front of me is better then one behind me.

NO NO NO TO ASSIGNED SEATING.
I fly Southwest almost weekly and the majority of the time, I do not hear anyone complain about the open seating policy. Don't change what works. To prove my point, I ended up having to fly American Airlines this past Monday as I was in downtown DC and had a tight schedule. Monday weather was horrible with planes delayed and canceled. I was fortunate enough to get on the last and only flight to Chicago. At 9:00, the station agent states the plane is being cleaned; and due to the noise ordanance in Reagan National, this plane must back away from the gate at 9:52 or we do not leave. At 9:25, the station agent reminded us of the time constraint, and then bellowed, "Everyone get on the plane" I am not sure how many seats there are on a MD 80, but we all ran for the door and were in our seats in less than 10 minutes. Now I know this is an extreme circumstance, but it worked, just like open seating on Southwest.

If you feel compelled to change, the comment from K. Johnson makes a lot of sense. Charge a little more and have them go to
the back of the plane, but don't make those of us who appreciate what you have suffer

Gary,
As a company owner, the staff of my organization, Premier Rides (don't worry, we're a roller coaster manufacturer -Revenge of the Mummy, The Italian Job Stunt Track Coaster - not a fledgling competitor), do think of you as The Company Plane. We literally fly hundreds if not thousands of segments annually. While I agree with some of the comments that point out that your most loyal customers (like ourselves) enjoy knowing how the system works and thus being able to secure A passes consitantly, I have to say that that the bad of the "cattle call" overwhelms the good. There is no more pleasant flying experience that one can have considering tyour planes are typcially relatively full. Your pilots are polite and your flight attendants by far the best in the industry - they can put a smile on the worst sour puss! However, the preboarding experience can be a frustrating and sometimes dangerous experience. Spend a day at the airport in Vegas where due to the fired up attitudes from "What happens here, stays here" you find line cutting, pushing and shoving when the lines start moving, and on several occasions I have seen fights over line position. I once watched a classic ambulance chaser scene where a lawyer gave his card to a passenger in line who had been in an altercation with the classic line "Let me take car of this, the airline has deep pockets" - made me ill to watch.

Of course if one goes to the smaller cities on your routes especailly down South the situation is typically more humane and the "events" are less evident. But you are a national company, not that small regional airline from so long ago. Perhaps one approach would be to identify the locations where uncontrolled lines are a challenge - Vegas, LA and only focus the reserved seating for those locations. I wish you luck wiith your tests.
Jim

Assigned seating would solve the one problem I have with Southwest. There always seems to be so much more anxiety and stress when preparing to fly Southwest. The "competition" for seats creates something in my fellow passengers that is no longer entertaining, but disturbing and uncomfortable. Eliminating that would be a godsend. Otherwise, you guys are fantastic.

I, too, am opposed to assigned seating. When friends and I book for the same flight, but separately, we are able to sit together on the plane rather than being assigned seats that separate us. Perhaps a partial solution is to offer a limited number of assigned seats (perhaps for a slightly higher cost) and allow the rest of us to do cattle call. I love flying Southwest and only choose other airlines if I have no other option.

Gary,

This issue has brought me to my first Blog response!
My wife and I have been faithful southwest flyers for many years, and we are very happy participants in the Rapid Rewards
program. Quite frankly, if Southwest doesn't fly there, then we don't go there.

As time has progressed, there have been changes in the business scheme that have given me pause. The first was the
modification to the Rapid Rewards amounts that triggered the free round-trip ticket. The next came with the announcement that
Southwest will start restricting the use of the Rapid Rewards tickets. Now you are entertaining the elimination of the current seating policy.

If this sentiment continues, there will soon be no difference between your airline and the rest of the major carriers. I may be wrong, but I presume Southwest has built its' business by catering to the low and middle market. Those that complain about being herded like cattle are ones that are more focused on being pampered, than flying on an affordable flight. One even represented a willingness to pay 20% 20% more for a flight if they were able to have a seating assignment. Good heavens! That is not the mentality of a low or middle market consumer. Let's face it, Southwest has reached such extraordinary levels by being cheap and fun. No meals, no movies, no frills. Just cheap and clean flying with a staff that has a sense of humor.

Please consider keeping your current open seating policy. It is unique, and it has not been a deterent in the growth of your business. I suspect though, that changes to this model will ultimately diminish a significant part of that uniqueness, and will lead to consumers questioning the difference between your airline and all the rest. If they cannot sense the difference, then you lose their loyalty, and in turn lose a dedicated customer.

Thanks for allowing a forum to receive such feedback.

William Moore

I have avoided flying Southwest at all costs due to the "cattle car" seating plan. I would love to use your direct flights from my area so I am urging you to begin assigning seats!

Thank you!

Gary - as a frequest flyer of Southwest (as well as an investor!), I IMPLORE you to please keep the open seating. There have been many reasons given as to why it should be kept and I agree with them all. Especially being able to sit AWAY from the passengers who board early with small children. I've had many a trip on other airlines wrecked because of annoying little ones that cannot/are not controlled byt their parents.
People who complain about waiting in long lines for a significant amount of time just haven't mastered the system yet. With your wonderful on-line ticketing, I get my boarding the day before my trip (almost always in A group) and I know that I can get to the airport (BWI, FYI) as little as 30 minutes before boarding because if I'm not checking baggage, I'm GOING to get the seat I want. I love that. I love that a LOT! A WHOLE LOT! Need I say more.
You guys are the best at what you do and open seating sets you apart from all the others. If there is an increase in cost because of assigned seating, I will no doubt pay it because I love you so much, but I sure won't be happy. But I will always choose Southwest over AirTran or the other carriers. Thanks for all your good work!

I am a frequent flyer on Southwest out of BWI BALTIMORE. I want to keep the cattle call type of seating. I love to get there early and get a good seat especially an emergency exit seat for leg room. I do want to comment about the entire family anuts, cousins etc..getting on early with a baby. I strongly suggest that only the immediate family Mother/Father brothers and sisters that are children be allowed early seating. It is getting that early seating is as long as the "A" line. I do want to say that the policy of early seating not be allowed emergency exit seating is a very good one. One more thing. I would like to encourage Southwest to consider seating all small children and their family in the rear of the aircraft which will allow all those coming in early to be far away from crying children. Thanks again for being diffrent.

K. Frank Turban

SW blog visitors are getting some press!

PLEASE do NOT assign seats! One of the many things I love about Southwest is that I do not have to have an assigned seat.
I usually fly one round-trip per month and enjoy deciding where I sit when I get to the plane. Sometimes I have to book a flight
at the last minute and do not want to have to settle for a center seat in the back of the plane. If it ain't broke, don't fix it!!!!!
Thank you

No No No No assigned seating. If I want to sit in the first row all I have to do is get to the airport before the other passengers and I am rewarded by being first in line to board. I rarely get a boarding pass number more than #5. I want the option of applying myself and getting the seat I want through a greater effort than most others are willing to put forth. If you had assigned seating then I would simply be relying on luck. Hoping that when I purchased my ticket my desired seat would not be taken. There would be no way of guaranteeing that I would get the seat of my choice. With no assigned seating if I get there early enough I am almost guaranteed my desired seat . I am not able to book my flight to far in advance because I work for the state and I am not allowed to actually book my own flight so I must depend on someone else in another office to get the seat I want??? I don't think so ! ! ! NO NO No No NO NO No Assigned seating.

I would've never found LUV if not for the open seating policy...I met my wife on a SWA flight from SJC to PHX on December 22, 1995.

I was traveling to ABQ to visit my parents for Christmas, she was going to PHX with her sister and family to visit another sister. They preboarded (because they had small children), and I decided to sit on the same row because she was beautiful. (and still is!)

Turns out that she lived only about 5 miles from me. We were married on August 7, 1998, and none of that would've been possible without open seating.

I prefer assigned seating. Although a 1K on UA at IAD, I look forward to SW coming to Dulles and I plan on doing plenty of flying with you...once you assign seats.

As a wheelchair flyer, open seating is a blessing. Otherwise, even though I can bpard first, unless i am able to get an aisle seat I am very uncomfortable. With the open seating policy we disabled are able to obtain seats whichenables us to fly in relative comfort
Please keep your open seating policy. Bernie

My wife and I are frequent flyers, so much so that we have had a companion pass for the last 4 years, we also hold Southwest stock in our IRA. We love the way you board, I hate to use other airlines when we fly to places Southwest doesn't go, I don't like picking out the seats, due the different plane configurations, I never know what to expect. We like being able to sit away from crying babies and small children (we're 58 years old and we want to relax) your airline makes flying fun, even the boarding process is fun! Our adult children are the ones who told us we needed to try SWA because it was so different and much more relaxed and fun!

Howdy!

Open seating is one of many things that makes Southwest special.
Perhaps other airlines should try it. IT WORKS FOR ME!!!
p.s., I'm looking forward to joining the "A" group when
Southwest begins service from Washington-Dulles.

John Melton, Falls Church, VA

Southwest Family,

I fly almost every week and the only time I don't fly your airlines is when I'm going to a destination that you don't fly. I recently heard
that you are considering seat assignments. Are you kidding me? This is how you seperate yourself from the rest of the carriers,
it's what keeps you in front of the competition! It is they who should be wondering when they should go to your system!

I am tall, very tall at 6'7" and having the opportunity to sit on an aisle, a window or more importantly the wing exit row is very
important to me. It is what brought me to you, it's been a LUV affair ever since. I could take my business to one of your
competitors and earn enough miles to take my chances on upgrades to business class seating and be very content. As much
as I travel it would not take long!

My preference is to stay with Southwest. I like the relaxed, casual approach to traveling. It is what I've come to know and luv.
Don't change!

Bill Wilkins

While I like SWA and their affordable travel, I think the open seating is horrendous! It's bad enough that one has to get to the airport so far in advance because of increased security, but then you have to deal with standing in a line at the gate instead of being comfortable in a chair. Once that first person makes the move to start standing in the corral it's all over! ItÃ

I think the open seating policy is to the benefit of most passengers. It allows us the opportunity to sit anywhere on the plane according to our travel needs for that particular trip. If I'm traveling with a group, it's good to sit in the back, with our group together and away from the kids. If I need to make a connection or time is an issue, I can sit towards the front of the plane, etc. I think the open seating policy is actually something most people enjoy, and the vocal minority criticizes. Make sure your research proves otherwise before making us all stay between the lines...

Open Seating should be retained. It is more than just a critical link in efficient boarding and part of what makes this airline uniques.
There is another equally important factor not to be overlooked: quality of life through the customized flying experience. Open seating allows a customer to fit his or her flying experience to their needs on that day. For example, the person who recently twisted their ankle can try for an aisle or bulkhead seat. The person traveling with little children can get their whole entourage closer to the bathroom if that's a priority. The traveler who really needs to be towards the front to make a tight connection or just get out fast can sit up front and the person who want a little quiet time to nurse a headache or do some work can retreat to the back (if the plane is not full, which is a rarity these days!). I think this freedom and flexibilty to choose your travel experience is critical -- and not just because I met my husband standing in the B line waiting to board. To think, it we hadn't had the option to sit together that day, we wouldn't be who we are today. Thank you for asking us what we want -- please listen carefully to your loyal customers. Thank you.

Kim's comments pretty much say it all for me.

However I do have a comment for Karl Turban - if you know where the "crying children" are - why don't you sit "far away" from them?
With open seating you can sit anywhere you want.

KEEP OPEN SEATING!

There's nothing worse to me than buying a last-minute ticket and finding myself sitting between two people much larger than me; at best, I can play musical chairs -- if time permits -- to try to find another seat on the plane. With Southwest, even if I am compelled to take a middle seat, I get to choose who I sit next to. And because I travel a lot in-state, often I already know that person.

When a formula works, why change it? New Coke didn't do very well. There's no need for a "New Southwest."

There's still a lot of cities that are aching for Southwest service. That's where the growth is -- and not these frequent fliers from other airlines that probably wouldn't fly Southwest anyway because there is no first class, no priority boarding for Elites, frequent flier credits expire, etc.

I HATE open seating -- it makes the entire boarding process so agrivating that I will always book a flight on another ariline if I can get a similar rate. If you do keep the cattle call, I would be willing to pay a reasonable premium ($5-$10 per flight) to be one of the first to board.

Are you INSANE? If Herb was dead, he'd roll over in his grave. Changing one of the most famous things for which you're known is the most silly idea yet. The flying public only wants a few things: low fares, comfortable and safe transportation and no hassles. Please don't screw up your business plan that made your business work!

NO! NO! NO! I fly Southwest everywhere I go (except Atlanta - can you do anything about that?) and much prefer your open seat boarding. Assigned seats slows boarding and you can't choose to sit away from screaming children! Please don't change things - open seating is one of the things that makes Southwest well, Southwest.

I love the current seating procedures at Southwest. PLEASE DO NOT change to assigned seating. I enjoy printing my boarding pass online 24 hours in advance, and I appreciate SW attempts to block the attempts by non-SW sites from charging for this service. My only concern is that too many "Pre-Boarding" folks take unfair advantage. I think that the idea of asking families with children to board early and move to the REAR of the aircraft is a good one. Since there is no lingering near the front lavatory, rear placement of the children would prevent the current running up and down the isles of youngsters, which prevents flight attendants from delivering beverage service. Let the "obviously" handicapped, and those with no overt disability (require a handicap placard) sit near the front. Please ask those that need a wheelchair to remain seated until other passengers deplane. These couple of suggestions would speed up an already very workable streamlined SW procedure. Keep up the good work. You ARE my favorite airline!
Posted by Lynda June 23, 2006

ASSIGNED SEATING, ASSIGNED SEATING -thru the internet eiher 24 hours prior or when you make reservation. I have lately flown Southwest back & forth from BWI to Ft Myers due to your schedule, flight times, and prices with NS as compared to AirTran, YET I DO LIKE ASSIGNED SEATING- I too do not want to stand in line 20-30 minutes when people start quing up. I also look at flight times due to business, but your competors such as Air Tran, USA3000, & USAir all have assigned seating which makes it easier for someone who flies back and forth 4-5 times/year.

Finally! I felt so strongly about the "cattle car" effect, I wrote you a letter last year requesting that you assign
seating on flights over 2 hrs. I got tired of witnessing the arguments over who was in line 1st, who was saving
space in line w/ a piece of luggage; who was saving seats which goes against the whole premise of first at the
airport gets best seat and my favorite--the glaring looks and negative comments made when 6 people board with the child or handicapped person. Since the planes are flying with smaller seats, larger people, and full seating, assigned seating would
reward those people booking first, allow people to actually sit in the seats instead of standing at the gate, and avoid the verbal
or, yes, physical altercations I witness every time I fly nonstop on a longer flight.

I find it interesting that those who already fly WN frequently want the system left as it is, and those crying for assigned seats have only the promise of future business to offer. Could we be seeing an orchestrated campaign to make you as inefficient as the others since they were unable to win in the courts?

I'm a family flier, not a frequent flier (5-6 times a year). Because of the non assigned seating, Southwest is our airline of last resort. As a rule of thumb, I will pay up to $50 a ticket more to fly on another airline to avoid the cattle call. I'll pay even more to avoid the Southwest lines at LAX.

I travel frequently, and with the exception of a short flight between Baltimore and Manchester, NH, I won't fly SouthWest due entirely to my dislike of the cattle call. Perhaps my most frustrating moment dealing with Southwest was when I arrived at the airport a full 2 hours in advance of the flight in order to get a decent seat, and was pulled out of line at boarding time for an additional security screening. I ended up at the back of the line. Extremely frustrating! Assigned seating is a idea that is overdue at Southwest.

The problem with the current boarding procedure isn't "open seating," it's the cattle car atmosphere in the gate area that proceeds it. If you can figure out a solution that eliminates the urge to line up (thinking off the top of my head, what about giving everyone a number and board in groups of ten?), you might have the best of all worlds.

Over the years Southwest Airlines has developed a great reputation for efficiency in moving folks around the country.
I believe one of the best features has been the open seating. Certainly there have been times when I have been among the last few people to board and have mumbled under my breath about "assigned seating", but even at those times I know that in reality the open seating system works very well. One of the best parts about it is that it is non-discriminating. It doesn't matter whether you are the CEO or the labor hand, you get to sit where your airport arrival (or online boarding pass retrieval) permits. Speaking of online boarding pass retrieval, I might just mention that most of the recent grumbling I have heard in the "cattle lines" has come from people that arrived at the airport very early but still didn't beat the online retrievers to the "A" passes. There might be something to consider in that process. Perhaps making 20 or so spots available for the folks who get to the airport early might alleviate that sort of grumbling.

Anyway, I appreciate the service provided by your airline and its great employees. My vote is to keep the open seating policy.

Regards to all,
David Cerchie

Assigned seating is a horrible idea, and I'd hate to see Southwest implement it. I fly Southwest whenever possible, though on occasion I end up on a different airline due to flight availability (i.e. for my Grandfather's funeral this past January).

Every time I've flown some other carrier, it has been amazing to watch how much less efficient the boarding process is than with Southwest, due to the disaster that is people looking for, and being forced to cross each other to get to, their assigned seats. In addition, customers are usually much more grouchy getting into their seats on other airlines -- they have no incentive to board quickly, and they're busy anticipating the loud/smelly/fat/otherwise aggravating person they'll be forced to sit next to. More often than not, I've run into families that are busy yelling at flight attendants over the fact that they're nota ble to sit together due to the way their assigned seating fell. Most of the time, assigned seating does nothing but make customers unhappy while losing the airline money.

People who are complaining about the need to arrive early at the airport even when they've bought tickets well in advance are just whiners. It's not hard at all to get in the "A" boarding group -- in all of the times I've flown Southwest since the introduction of online checkin, I've never once been in "B" or "C" -- and any seat you get in the "A" group is going to be a good one.

Even going with a small set of assigned seats presents serious problems. Part of the beauty of Southwest is that you can get a great seat through your own efforts, i.e. checking in and/or showing up early. If assigned seats were sold at a higher rate than regular seats, they'd almost certainly have to be the good seats (i.e. front few rows, exit rows, etc.), else no one would pay for them. The problem here, though, is that if you give all of the good seats to people who are paying extra, regular customers will lose the possibility of an excellent seat, and become very irritated in the process. You're likely to alienate a large portion of your customer base to please a very, very tiny portion thereof.

I love to travel, and I'm always looking for the best and cheapiest airfare to wherever it is I'm traveling to.
Southwest has more times than not been the airlines I have chosen, because of your low prices. There's only one thing that I
dread about traveling Southwest and that was that you did not have assigned seating. There was a few times that I purposely
booked on a different airlines to get the assigned seat, of course I had to pay a little more. So, I say all this, to say please, please
implement the assigned seating as soon as possible. It would be nice to also keep the lower prices too!!

Thank you
Lora Mouton

I have a business account with SWA. I also am a business and holiday traveler and I see no reason to change to assigned seating. T
I see more delays of boarding passengers than with the ABC system. I believe more education on the procedure will help as I have seen more people try and bring items onboard that exceed the airline policy and this leads to more time per person to board and seat themsleves. The ABC system is what I really enjoy about the airline and the system works fine. If its not broken don't fix it! Thanks.

Great idea, Bob. The boarding passes already are pre-numbered...make us line up in that order.

Please switch to assigned seating. The cattle call brings out the worst in people. I have been jostled, bumped in the back, and
even knocked aside by people who want to get to their most preferred seat. Then there are the ones who rush in and demand to
save seats for others in an effort to circumvent the present system entirely. In short, the present system brings out the worst in
people. And how does it save boarding time? Perhaps at the ticket checking entry, but then everyone is held up by all the people
first in line who also grab the first seats and then have to block the aisle as they stow their luggage, a serious bottleneck that brings access to a grinding halt. It's all tiresome, humiliating, uncivilized.

I have been flying Southwest for most of the past thirty-five years. Junes Spirit sumed up what has made Southwest the best and most profitable air line, they take care of their customers. Going to assigned seating would be a mistake and I feel slow down the boarding process. Have you thought about what SW would gain? The last 6 flights I have been on were all full so why change for the few who refuse to fly Southwest because there is no assigned seating? Someone above mentioned that restricting carry on luggage would do more to speed things up, and I agree. There are always young familys along with frail men and women that have trouble lifting and placing their bags in the carry on racks.
There needs to be more attention paid to those waiting at the gate. Some airports have seats in the group boarding area and some do not. It would be nice to be consistant. People also have a tendency to "mark their spot" by putting luggage down then finding a seat somewhere else. I thought this was not allowed by TSA. If they want to be first in line they can stand like I do. Thanks for listening

So, you all love open seating...great. Good for you. Let me tell you what I think of open seating: I live 20 minutes from BWI, an airport I love, yet I drive an hour to Dulles--an airport I loathe--to fly jetBlue instead. Not only do they offer assigned seating, they have on-board entertainment.

Crazy, you say? Well, I'm not flying 45 minutes to Albany. I'm flying trans-con. And I don't want to be crammed in the middle of two fat people for six hours, with nothing to do except stare at the in-flight magazine. And before you tell me that that's my own fault for not gaming the General Admission seating, I'll explain that I also have better things to do than stay up until midnight the night before to print my boarding pass, so I can stand in line for an hour in the "A" group.

Clearly SWA is a great airline for those flying short-haul (especially if you think flying to Long Island is a great way to get to Manhattan), or for those who think that the Greyhound-in-the-air experience is some lind of a lark. But for those of us who want a little comfort in our travel, and are trying to go someplace farther than Buffalo, there's plenty of quality LCC competition (jetBlue, AirTran) that offers the same low prices, but with a superior product--including assigned seating. So that's where I'll be.

That should leave plenty of room for you guys to wax poetically about how wonderful it is to be treated like schoolkids on a field trip.

DEAR SOUTHWEST ..... AS A VERY FREQUENT BUSINESS FLIER OUT OF LAS VEGAS, MY BUSINESS MODEL INCLUDES EASY ACCESS TO AIRLINE TRAVEL. I AM ALWAYS AMAZED AND PLEASED ABOUT HOW EASY IT IS TO DO BUSINESS WITH YOUR FRIENDLY PEOPLE. LAST MINUTE CHANGES ARE COMMON FOR BSINESS PEOPLE AND YOUR SYSTEM HANDLES THEM WITH EASE. I HAVE NOW DECIDED NOT TO TAKE NEW CLIENTS THAT ARE IN AREAS NOT SERVED BY SW NON-STOP OR NO CHANGE FLIGHTS.

YOUR OPEN SEATING IS A VERY IMPORTANT PART OF YOUR FRIENDLINESS TO US LAST MINUTE FULL FARE BUSINESS PEOPLE. CLASS A BOARDING IS VERY VALUABLE TO THOSE OF US WHO CANNOT RISK BEING SEPARATED FROM OUR CARRY-ONS FOR SECURITY REASONS OR TIME DELAYS CAUSED BY BAGGAGE AREA WAITING.

YOU MUST NOT START THE RESERVED SEATING MONSTOR THAT WILL IN THE LONG RUN COST YOU THE LOYALTY OF YOUR BUSINESS PEOPLE (YOUR MOST LOYAL/FULL FARE CLIENTS) WHO NEED EARLY OPEN BOARDING OPPORTUNITY.

I DO SUGGEST THAT YOU LIMIT THE 24 HOUR PRIOR BOARDING PASS OPPORTUNITY TO THESE FULL FARE PASSENGERS WHO DESERVE SPECIAL CONSIDERATION SINCE THEY ARE PAYING THE HIGHER FARES. IN FACT I WOULD HAPPILY PAY FULL FARE FARE TO BE MORE ABLE TO GET THE EARLIER CLASS A BOARDING PASS

IF YOU REALLY WANT TO SPEED UP THE TURN-AROUND TIME, THE PEOPLE WHO GET EARLY BOARDING BECAUSE OF PHYSICAL PROBLEMS SHOULD BE THE LAST TO GET OFF THE PLANE. BECAUSE OF THEIR DIFFICULTIES THEY ARE SOMETIMES VERY SLOW AND THE BLOCK THE PROCESS. FAKE EARLY BOARDING REQUESTS WILL GO DOWN AND BE USED BY THE PEOPLE WHO REALLY NEED IT. UNLOADING THE PLANE WILL GO FASTER AND FOCUS MORE ON THE TRUE DISABILY PEOPLE ( WHO WON'T FEEL AS PRESSURED BY HOLDING UP THE LINE)

I HAVE A NEW BUSINESS VENTURE FOR SOME OF THE FAKERS OUT THERE. THEY CAN SELL INFLATABLE BABIES FOR
EARLY BOARDING PRIVILEGES.

AS ANOTHER BLOGGER SAID, YOU DON'T HAVE TO JUMP OFF A BRIDGE BECAUSE EVERYBODY ELSE IS DOING IT.. THE SW BUSINESS MODEL IS DIFFERENT AND IS BETTER. THAT'S WHY YOU'RE SUCCESSFUL. BEING TREATED LIKE CATTLE IS NOT TRUE. YOUR SUCCESS IS BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE BEST MAINTAINED EQUIPMENT, THE BEST PEOPLE AND WHEN SAFELY POSSIBLE, YOU'RE ON TIME.

Its about time! Welcome to the rest of the world.

I absolutely LOATHE the lack of assigned seating. More than anything else, I hate having to stand in line for an hour before boarding, to avoid having the last choice of seats. I almost got into a fight in Tampa when some fatass who arrived late & sat till the last minute tried to cut in front of me.

I love Southwest's prices & schedule. But if JetBlue ever starts using BWI, you'll have seen the last of me, and the lack of assigned seating is the only reason.

Please assign seats. I have been on so many Southwest flights that a family with small children is boarding late because of
delayed flights and the whole plane has to rearrange to allow them to sit together. I have actually had people offer me cash for
a seat so families can sit together. Open seating is the stupidest thing I have ever seen and not because I grew up on assigned
seating, but have you had to listen to a screaming kid. I was actually on a flight that a woman had given up an isle seat for take-off
only to seat a parent and child and then create a rucus to get the isle seat back after take-off.....I hate flying as it is and this makes
it more unpleaseant. Since your airline operates like a bus with wings at least assigned seating will had back some of the
pleasantness of flying. There are times when you can't get to the airport a week early to get that A pass or don't have access
to a computer, having an assigned seat will

Assigned seating is DEFINITELY preferable. Trying to arrange one's schedule to be online 24 hours prior to flight time in order to get "A" is a royal pain.

Count me in as another frequent Southwest flyer that doesn't want to see you go to assigned seating. Having an assigned seat is highly over rated and certainly not worth the extra effort and time it takes to board.

How about assigning seats in the boarding area? If not numbering them, have them labeled by letter. This way the overachievers in the front of their respective lines wouldn't have to stand the whole time to save their seat!

I refuse to fly Southwest because Southwest is a cattle plane and offers cramped seats. I prefer assigned seating. It will be faster if you allow everyone to board planes. I will never choose Southwest.

Open seating is the main reason why I have never flown SouthWest. I am a consultant (gypsy) and travel every week is norm for me. I figured I better speak up or you might get the wrong impression that the majority LIKE open seating. Most of the comments I see here are from people who routinely fly SouthWest and of course they like open seating or they would be flying another airline. People like myself never fly SouthWest; so, you do not have a clue that we exist. I would not have known to leave a comment here if it were not for being mentioned by Ben Mutzabaugh in his daily column. So, put in reserved seating and I will be very happy to fly SouthWest. Thanks.

It seems that you are fighting 2 classes of people. As a business traveler the open seating is perfect
but on vacation travel booked well in advance it is nice and comforting to have an assigned seat when you have
6 or 7 people traveling together. I have talked with people who have bigger families and they say that it's one more
thing to worry about getting in line and hoping they can sit together. Maybe a hybrid method can be implemented
Southwest has always been a leader so I have no doubt they will come up with a unique solution to this problem.

I'm an infrequent flyer of southwest but when I have flown I've always enjoyed my experience. I usually fly southwest when I need to get somewhere quick and can book a non-stop flight. When I first flew southwest I was shocked to find that there are no assigned
seats but as long as you checked in early you could get a decent seat. Well my first flight I did just that and ended up with a nice bulkhead seat right up front. The trip was great and the flight attendants were fantastic and lived up to everything southwest plugs.

I can see the reasoning behind wanting to switch to assigned seating, I know I like the knowledge of having an assigned seat when I get to my plane but I also like the fact that if you book late and check in early you can still get a decent seat. That said I feel that Southwest should keep the ABC boarding policy. It's what makes you different from the rest of the airlines. Notice all the airlines with assigned seating are the ones struggling. Hmmm? Co-incidence? I think not.

I think southwest needs to keep some of what makes it unique. Sure change is inevitable but don't make change to attract new customers and possibly alienate your current ones. Make change because it works for the company then explain that in depth to your customers because some of your customers are stockholders too. I've only flown southwest twice but my experience each time is what prompted me to make an investment in your stock.

I would much prefer assigned seating. I am able to print a boarding pass when I am home with the hope of securing an A seat. However, on the return flight, I do not have access to a computer and have to sit in the worst seats. I hate standing on line, even with the A boarding pass because I am in pain as a result of foot problems. Please institute assigned seating. Some people I know will not fly SW due to non-assigned seating.

Southwest - don't change your seating arrangements.

The first time I flew Southwest, I too was surprised by the open seating. Because I was expecting the same arrangements as with other airlines I did not check in early. I was in time for the flight and in no danger of being left behind but I also did not get the best seat on the plane. I liked (actually enjoyed) the care, attention and even entertainment that was that flight. I learned - get there early - that requires planning. If you get there early you have a chance to get the BEST seat on the plane, whatever you might consider that to be. Why should I and other passengers run the risk of having to pay more and get less service because other passengers don't plan and get there just in time. Remember the old saying "lack of planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part." Southwest - LEAVE THE SEATING ALONE!!!.

I'm thowing my vote in with unassigned seating; I make 4-5 roundtrip flights a month and, as stated by many others here, most are booked with in a week or two of the flight time. Without open seating, I'd be in back in the cheap seats most of the time, and so would likely switch to another carrier where I could build frequent flyer status and this gain preferred seating. My two cents.
thanks,
Brent

I think it would be good for Southwest to assign seats. This would make boarding faster and more business travelers would like.

I've flown Southwest for 10 years. I love the seating arrangement as is. Checking in 24 hours on line is a breeze and I always get an n A an A or B seat. Leave it alone and stay as profitable as you have been!

Swimming against the tide...I would be THRILLED to have assigned seating on Southwest. The lack of same is one reason why--even though I love the casualness of your crew, the sense of humor, the friendliness of the airline--I don't fly SW more often. I truly hate the get-there-two-hours-early-sit-on-the-floor waiting in line; the push to get the "best" seats; the insider tricks one has to know to get the A passes.

I've seen a couple of recommendations in these comments that I would echo. Truly, really, honestly enforce the "under the seat in front of you" rule, and don't let somebody on with more than 2 carryon pieces. Just don't let 'em do that. And board from the back, no exceptions. I fly United on business much of the time, and the seats that are left after all the Premier, PExec, and 1K passengers load are hard to get to and in the back--while the privileged class is still standing in the aisles trying to stuff their 3 pieces of carryon luggage all in the overhead bin.

So...yes to assigned seats, but board from the back and don't let big carryons on or more than 2.

Of course, you could let my boyfriend load your planes; he was a sergeant in the Army and says he could get people on in 2 minutes if he could board 'em like soldiers. I have a hunch that would not go over well with your customers.

Appreciate the unassigned seating offered by Southwest. On a recent flight there was a SCREAMING child in the front section.
We were able to find a seat in the rear of the aircraft - thank goodness! The flight would have been unbearable if not for that
option. I find it very convenient to check-in on-line within the 24 hours prior to departure. PLEASE do not change this
much appreciated policy.

LEAVE OPEN SEATING ALONE! IT WORKS.
I love SWA and fly it whenever possible; seating is the fastest in the business. If you go to assigned seating, I would change my selection of airlines and only fly SWA if it were cheaper. And I have, on occasion, received a C pass and have sat in the middle on a full flight. But it is worth that gamble to have the option of choosing your seat.
Even on other airlines , I have been forced to select a middle seat--even when booking weeks in advance--due to blocked out seats for "elite" customers or exit rows.

My bookings on Southwest are well in advance of the flight, so, therefore, I would like to have the opportunity to reserve my desired seat seat well in advance also. I am very much in support of assigned seating, and would like to see it occur ASAP!

Assigned seating is the only way to go. The cattle call approach is bogus...I have never liked it. My main gripe is not getting on and actually finding a seat. It is wating at the gate before the flight. Everyone gets in the A, B, and C corrals about 30 minutes before the flight. The gate area becomes total disarray because people are trying to wrap lines around seats and through aisles. So I'm sitting there in a chair in the San Diego airport because I don't feel like waiting in line for 1/2 hour and there is NO room in the aisle because the aisle is flooded with people (and luggage) watingin to get on the plane. Then they get tired of waiting and just sit down on the floor, still keeping their place in line. Its mayhem, I tell you. Utter chaos. Is this the way you really want to prepare for a business trip of a nice vacation? What is so wrong with calling rows or sections? I want to pick my seat when I make the reservation, and show up the usual time before the flight - not have to get there as early as humanly possible so that I can get in line.

If Southwest is going to keep the cattle call, I would recommend to make the gate areas larger and have a designated area for people who want to sit and relaax and those who need to get in line. The peanuts rule though.

I love open seating and hope that you don't change this policy. To me, open seating just seems to work. It truly is one of the major reasons I choose to fly SWA.

The open boarding used by SWA is a good system. I usually fly up and back from my mothers hosue half a dozen or more times a year, and I have never had an issue with the boarding. People complainign about standing in line with an A pass need to realize that every single A pass will get a window seat, even if every single person takes a window seat(Which doesn't happen). Wven with families most SWA passengers and attendents are able to accomadate with no issue. The open boarding system isn't broken. Even with my mother, she gets an A pass even though she doesn't use a computer, since I set up all her flights down here, I can sign in, and she picks up the ticket no problem(Have I mentioned the eletronic signin-pickuppassatairport is the greatest system ever, my mother refuses to fly any other carrier).

I fear that if you switch to assigned seats, then the flights will lose their ability to adjust depending on the passenger load, and punish those of us who are mature adults.

The system treats us like mature, responsible adults, while allowing those of us who 'need' a window seat to make steps to do just that.

I would welcome assigned seating. I have never and expect I never will fly SWA without assigned seating. I hate lines and have a medical problem that makes it difficult for me to stand for long times. What is better than sitting in the airline restaurant, lounge. or just a chair in the terminal... knowing a seat awaits you when you get on the plane. When I walk by SWA gates I am reminded of the unemployment line I once stood in years ago. Yuk. With computer check in and the need to get to the airport so early for security, how can SWA not get into the present.

A suggestion. Why not board airplanes back to front with window seats first, center and then aisle. I see a lot of the delay in crowded aisles while people have to get out of seats to let people in. Also, how about those folks who stand in the aisles blocking boarding be given a shout from the flight attendats. Do we have to continue to tolerate rudeness with silence.

The last three times I flew Southwest this year I had the following experiences:

Flight #1: I was standing in line for seating area A and a woman walked past everyone in line, ducked under the rope between the lines and cut in line near the front. When one of the passengers confronted her, she said, "I didn't know all of you were standing in line".

Flight #2: There was an empty middle seat in the row in front of me. A boarding passenger asked if the seat was occupied. The woman in the aisle seat said, "Yes, my niece is sitting there." The seat remained empty for the duration of the flight. Lesson: without assigned seating, people will lie in order to keep an empty seat next to them.

Flight #3: I arrived at the gate and walked up to the line for seating area B. There was one person in front of me. As I stood there, a woman who was sitting down started screaming at me that I cut in line in front of her. I had no idea that I was supposed to stand behind all the people who were sitting down! How was I supposed to know that all the people sitting in chairs had "virtually" claimed a place in line?

I'd love it if Southwest switched to assigned seating.

My vote would be to keep the 24 hour online checkin window but rather than assign A-B-C, allow the number of people that would make up the A and B groups to pick seats. The remaining folks (the C group) would just fill-in the empty seats when they board.

P.S. - LUV the attitude, LUV the service, LUV the people and LUV the airline. Thanks for many past and future happy flights.

Gary.

Why are trying Fix what is not broke keep the open seating Please keep it;;;

Steve

Have you guys lost your minds? What does Herb think--I am certain the founder of your great airline would not want any part of assigned seating!
I really like things exactly the way they are at Southwest. If you start acting all the others, I will fly with the others.I like to be rewarded with a choice seat by arriving early for check in ! Let the late comers sit in the center seats--they deserve it! Please just drop this plan!

Keep open seating. It works both for a single traveller and as a family traveller. I like being able to sit in the kids ghetto up front where other fliers will be less inconvenienced by my screaming kid unable to equalize the pressure in his ears (this trick is hard to teach a two year old). I always try to fly LUV out of BWI.

Add my name to the list of people who like the "open seating" system the way that it is. The main reason that I request Southwest for all of my business travel, even when other airlines are available, is (1) the ability to sit far away from crying children, and (2) the fact that Southwest is the only carrier that virtually always runs on time. And, when I have children of my own, I will feel much better if I am able to pre-board with them toward the front, so that other travelers can sit away from them if they wish. If Southwest were to go entirely to assigned seating, I would lose my incentive to use Southwest. I would, however, be open to a hybrid system, where the people who make up the usual pre-board class, including those with young children, can request seats toward the front of the plane and other can request seats far away from that section.

I absolutely LOVE Southwest and if Southwest doesn't fly to a destination, I don't go. Please, no assigned seats. Who cares what people call the system. You are on time, everyone can survive without a "meal", you have a wonderful safety record. Don't change.

I am a frequent flyer out of RDU (Raleigh/Durham) Since WN started flying out of the RDU market, I have shifted most of my east coast travel away from US Air (even as a Preferred flyer) This is because your Y fares/last minute fares are far superior compared to the competition. Also, the inflight service is actually BETTER than the other so-called full service airlines due to the friendly staff and attitudes. For short haul flights that originate at RDU, the open seating works great. However, I absolutely detest the open seating int he following scenarios:

1) Tight connection times: So what if you have an A zone if the flight is already boarded
2) Flights that do not originate from your city: Ie you aren't boarding an empty plane
3) Long haul flights: People seem to be more testy with the transcon flights
4) Too many "pre-boards" and too many "carry ons"

I agree with a previous poster that certain airports seem to be worse when it comes to the cattle call. Personally, I would support assigned seating or at a very least offer it to those that unrestricted fares. Regardless of what you choose, you have essentially stolen my east coast flying away from the other carriers.

I am extremely opposed to the present "cattle car" system for boarding. What about the older people standing in line an hour or more? Older people have difficulty with their bladders and knees when made to stand in line for an hour or more. Also, this system is not fair to people who are not computer savvy. After all, was not your original idea to board people who are actually at the airport?

I have flown Southwest from BWI to LAX a number of times.
Another big problem Southwest has is when you arrive back at BWI, it takes up to an hour to get your luggage because the baggage handlers at BWI unload the U.S. Mail first, before the baggage.

I strongly urge you to leave your seating policy alone!
It works better than any other system I've experienced on other airlines.
The flexibility and speed of boarding is a valuable asset for the company and your passengers.
Don't change a thing!

Assigned seating will just take up more time and I can't believe it won't cost more in the long run! Less huge carryons would save time and stress. I fly Southwest because they get me to my destination faster than the other airlines. The seating arrangments are just fine. If it ain't broke don't fix it!

I must say that I am shocked at the support for the open seating. I've heard many complaints but I have never heard this much postive feedback.

We are the evil family (2 adults, 2 children) vacation flyers that so many of you dread sitting next to. We fly two or three times a year between CMH and MCO. There is one other flight that I make solo. We make our reservations well in advance. I dislike the open seating policy. I fly Southwest because of the price and/or the non-stop service. Given the same flight for the same price, I would pick the airline with the assigned seating. As long as Southwest has a substantially lower price, I would probably put up with the open seating policy. Currently, we can preboard and, in attempt to save most of you here from having to be seated near us, we go to the very back of the plane if we can make it past the people who have carried 17 pieces of luggage on (13 of which won't fit in the overhead to begin with). I am one that does not care where I sit on a plane as long as my family of 4 can be together. I rue the day that we have to return to the A-B-C line and witness the rude behaviors that take place there on occasion. With everybody checking in 24 hours in advance, you could find yourself in the "C" boarding pass group pretty quickly.

I live in Las Vegas. I am a Senior. I hate the fact that when one person stands up, then everyone jumps to get in line to get their
choice seat. Standing in line in Las Vegas for thirty to forty minutes is no fun. Southwest has made it a little easier by letting me
secure a boarding pass on line. I do fly Southwest most of the time because of the rates being cheaper. My vote is for assigned
seating.

I vote to keep the system exactly how it is now. It's quick, simple and works great.

My company forces me to fly Southwest whenever I fly into the headquarters. I travel a lot for business and the only time I fly SWA is when my office makes me do it when visting the main office. The only reason for that is the open seating policy. I would use SWA for most of my travel, if the seating were assigned. Also, if I wouldn't fly SWA for business because of the open seating policy, I for sure wouldn't fly it with the family on vacation.

I vote for the assigned seating policy. SWA is not defined by its seating policy. It's the employees and the spirit of the company that make the difference.

I recently flew on an oh-so-proper airline that is new/again out of Love Field and starts with an "A". (I know, I know, shame on me -- but I fly long distance out of Dallas, and sometimes I need them, and I'm about to take the Bride to Europe on a reward trip....)

At 30 minutes before the flight, they began their assigned seating process. After a few minutes, they were on the airplane's speakers, pleading and bleating with the customers to "step out of the aisle, let others by, blah blah baa baa baa." It got to be practically militant! After a few more minutes of these impassioned announcements, the customers all found a way to store their stuff and sat in their seats. Time yet to wait for pushback? Fifteen more minutes!!

They barked at their clients for 10 minutes to hurry, and then we all sat there fifteen more minutes before starting our journey.

Please do not copy the other airlines and their assigned seating practice. I much prefer the service, respect, and process of SWA! You could say I LUV it.

I'll keep this simple -- please go to assigned seating. I don't fly Southwest because of the cattle call. I'm a million mile flyer on another airline so air travel is nothing new to me. If I had assigned seating, I would fly Southwest.

Just to let you add me to your tally....I have been a SWA customer for years (many years with over 100 credits). At first I didn't like
the 'cattle car' approach but that feeling changed after lots of bad experiences on other airlines. I would rather endure the no
assigned seating approach and leave and get to my destination on time than mess with assigned seats. The other advantage is
you can pick and choose your flight seat partners easier (no noisy kids).

GREAT!!! Moving forward toward reaching more customers. I fly over 200,000 miles a year on various airlines and I have had a few flights with SW. But I can't stand the cattle call, so my business goes else where.

I have always chosen Southwest both for price and for no advanced seating.
I rely on the assurance that early arrivel will allow me to find a window seat.
Dont change! Please.

August will mark the beginning of my eighth year on Southwest as an (almost) weekly flyer. I cast my vote for "no assigned" seating. I have to believe that assigned seating would slow the turnaround time, lead to more delays, and otherwise frustrate long term customers who have come to enjoy the "cattle call" approach.

I would like Southwest either way. It is a friendly airline as described in the other posts, and it has a remarkably easy and homey website. But whether I get an "A" or a "B" or a "C" on my ticket, I have never been crazy about standing in lines for up to an hour to grab my preferred aisle seat. Also, what is and will be your primary competition in Florida for years to come -- JetBlue -- has assigned seats. Assigned seating doesn't seem to be a problem for JetBlue and certainly not for their passengers (which sometimes includes me!). I vote for assigned seating.

Please don't go to reserved seating. Open seating is what I like best about Southwest. I try to board at the last of the "A" group. That way I can avoid sitting next the screaming kids because they are already seated and I can sit somewhere else. I like to choose who I set next to-- not have it assigned without knowing who is in the seat next to me.

Please, please, please do not change to assigned seating. After reading an article about this blog in the Baltimore Sun I felt I had to respond. I've been a loyal Southwest customer for many years. One of my favorite things about the company is its relaxed attitude. I like that the airline doesn't have a first class and that everyone knows if you want the best seats show up early. And mind you, I'm not always there early but if I don't get the great seat I know whose fault it is - mine. I have heard the argument that assigned seating would let people avoid sitting next to a screaming child but it's not true. With assigned seating you never know who you're going to get But with open seating you could chose to walk right past the kid and his/her tired parents (or anyone one else you'd prefer to avoid) and sit as far away as possible. Ignore the elitsts who prefer assigned seating or first class seating. They need to accept that its their responsibility to get to the airport early enough to get the good seats. They shouldn't blame the airline for their laziness! Keep on doing what you're doing - it's great!

As a frequent business flier, I have had nothing but good experiences with the current arrangement. Please keep the open seating policy. Thanks!

I don't care much one way or the other EXCEPT for the fact that with open seating, to get a good choice of seats, I have to get to
front of the A/B/C line and then either stand there for an hour or sit on the floor. That wasn't so bad when I was younger, but now
I find it ANNOYING. Either provide seating that is organized into the A/B/C lines where I can sit and wait to board, or give me a
reservation so I can wait in a seat in the airport. The choice of a bad seat on the plane or sit on the floor is a very poor choice.

I fly an average of one round-trip per week on Southwest. Assigned seats on Southwest??? Omigod, Herb Kelleher must be spinning in his grave. Oh, wait; Herb's not dead. It's still a dumb idea.

PLEASE...NO OPEN SEATING!

My family & I have been flying Southwest Airline for over 10 years!
We have averaged 2+ trips per month and have had the companion pass!
We even chose S W when another airline is cheaper or more convenient.
There have been occasions when I did have to fly another airline and
the whole time I would compare them to SW.
I would wonder WHY they insist on staying in their ruts!
WHY donÃ

Thank You Southwest, for getting with the times, and looking into assigned seating. I have been flying SWA every since you start-
ed in Nashville. I use SWA for Business and Pleasure trips, and Yes, I have stood in the lines for a lot of hours waiting for the
boarding calls. I am now retireing and don't want to stand in line to board a airplane, I want to have a seat assigned and look for-
ward to flights without the preflight hassles and queues. I look forward to my trips on SWA and the very fine employees that
give excellent service and flying abilities.

Dont change the open seating. I am a tall person and like to stretch my legs out.
On Southwest I can get an exit row if I get in line early. Other airlines I can never get an exit row.
Assigned seats will be like toll roads in florida. They slow the traffic down & cause accidents.
Southwest has the best system-the airline operates efficiently & fares stay low.
Keep up the good work.

Pul-LEEZE do not change your open seating policy! As a business and recreation traveler (and Southwest Frequent Flyer) who flys on several different airlines, I see the impact of assigned seating. Basically, it
causes passengers to "fart around" and take too much time getting into their seats. Whereas, with
Southwest, everyone knows the early bird gets the best seat!

Cheers to Southwest for becoming a pioneer in this area!

You don't need it! I don't want it! Don't do it!!!

The thing that sets Southwest apart from other carriers is the unbeatable ability to land a plane and get it back in the air with minimal turn around time. No matter how efficient a seating system is, there is no way that it could be as quick as "just grab a seat". No only does it keep passengers from having to find their seat, but it also encourages passengers to arrive at the gate in plenty of time to board the plane so they are able to get a better selection for their seat.

In my mind, changing to assigned seats would decrease the value I see in flying with Southwest.

You're present policy of being able to log on 24 hrs prior to flight works well but its not the best of both worlds.
I have to tell you that when I book a flight the first thing I do is look at the seating availabilty. Because of the open seating & A- B -C
boarding, I only use Southwest as a last resort. The other thing is that the first come, first boarder doesn't work either. Appreciate the opportunity to send this message.

I HATE YOUR OPEN SEATING!!!!!! IT IS A NIGHTMARE... I have been a loyal Southwest flyer for over 6 years... checking your website first and rarely if ever looking for a lower priced or more convenient flight to my destination, additionally my SW Visa is my primary credit card for the points (primarily your reliability, employee spirit, value and love of Wild Turkey)... The security check point is even less of an excruciating experience than your cattle call-herd packing style of loading a plane. Because I refuse to push, shove, hover, idle and body block other individuals I typically board in the C boarding. As a result when flying alone I am cursed with the dreaded center seat and have to lower my head while people already seated pray I don't take that center seat. And god forbid if I am flying with a companion. Way to start off an enjoyable weekend or business trip when you are seperated from your companion for the entire flight. ASSIGN ME PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You have held a death grip on this utterly ridiculous oddity for way too long!!!!! Providing input only because I read an article in the Baltimore Sun that people actually liked this disgusting manner of boarding a plane.

My oh My!!! The responses continue. Come on folks we must think outside the box. If assigned seating saves the company some
money and attracts more customers, that means yeah.. you guessed it lower fares and even more flights. It would be nice to keep
open
seating, but we all must be open minded. Lets do what is best for Southwest. I will be flying from San Diego to ABQ in July,
hopefully i can be apart of the fun....

Please don't do it! Southwest is the only airline that lets me choose not to sit next to screaming babies, overly affectionate young couples who can't keep their hands off one another, and the guy who brings the nasty-smelling day-old McDonalds burger on the plane. I am a companion pass member on SWA, and I cherish the ability to choose where I would sit. Please don't change that.

If you want a constructive suggestion: No one under 6 feet tall in the emergency exit row. THAT would be a great help!

We like everything about SouthWest except no assigned seating. We do not fly SW because of this one reason and I suspect thousands of business people like me are also not flying SW for the same reason. I predict that if SW goes to assigned seats, their share of the market will change dramatically. GOOD MOVE!

KEEP the OPEN SEATING. It is easy and rewards the people who use the web based check-in processes or who arrive at the airport early, both actions which are encouraged by Southwest. It has proven to be a fast method of boarding, so why mess with success.

Jim, your setseatingfree website gave several of us a chuckle in Customer Relations--Thank You! As an Employee of 18 years at the Greatest Airline in the World, reading everyone's supporting comments (both for and against open seating) makes my heart swell with pride. And while I, too, am a fan of open seating and of our remaining a little different than everyone else, I trust in the Leadership of my Company to fairly evaluate open seating and our boarding process and make the right decision for you - our Customers - and for Southwest. Keep posting--I promise you, we're reading!

As a business traveler who uses Southwest up to 4 times a week every month, please, please, please DO NOT make the move to assigned seating. I would like to know that I will have the ability to work on the plane in peace without having to be stuck next to a shrieking baby or in front of a child kicking the back of my chair during an entire plane ride.

Further, having read some of the comments in favor of assigned seats, I submit this. First, not having open seating will not reduce your current customer base because it is not open seating that is the main attraction. It is who you are, how passengers are treated, how you run your business, and your prices. Those will all stay. Second, it is a brutal waste of my limited time to have to get to the airport early enough, then stand around for an hour in line, to have any hope of getting a good seat. It is uncomfortable and too time costly. Again, I am certain that once SW goes to assigned seating, they will pick up significant additional shares of the market. Hardly anyone I know flys SW and no assigned seating is the only reason. All said they would if SW would change.

Please don't change. I love open seating. I go out of my way to fly SWA because of your spirit and the way you do things. I love the way you make use of the internet practical and affordable. I trust you. I believe that when I log on at SWA and compare prices vs. available days and flights that I get the most reasoable deal. I believe that if I log on 24 hours before flight time, I have my fair chance of grabbing an "A" pass. I believe that if I show up in a timely manner, I have a good chance of getting the kind of seat I like.

I fly SWA r/t across the country about 3 times a year between BWI and Oakland. I like safe, dependable, on time, efficiency at an affordable price. I think your success demonstrates a great marketing idea.

I flew Southwest last week from Reno via Las Vegas to Manchester, NH. I don't think I will fly Southwest again until there is
assigned seating. In the past, you were rewarded with arriving at the airport EARLY with an A boarding pass. The night before my flight
I logged on and was suprised to find I was issued a B pass on a 5 hour flight. Then on the way back, since we didnt have internet
service we went to the airport itself 20 hours prior to departure and again received a B pass for a 5.5 hour flight.

I find the line up to be very annoying as in order to get a good seat you need to stand in line a whole hour before boarding, while
instead I could be sitting down getting work done or even going to have a beer somewhere. Then you have the cutters who when
the line starts moving just blend in as no one ever knows which line is ever what. No thanks to that! I will spend the extra $20
to fly on a legacy carrier where I know I will be seated ahead of time and be able to sit next to my wife.

Some other annoyances of Southwest. On a five hour flight what is up with getting a dixie cup of soda or coffee twice on the entire
flight? Why can't there ever be a full can of coke or a full cup of coffee? The flight attendants mostly just sat in the back of the
plane and talked and talked instead of going around and seeing who wanted more to drink.

We flew over some great landmarks (Grand Canyon, Zion, Lake Powell) on the way to and from Vegas and the pilot never once
got on the intercom to point those out. I was pointing those out to fellow passengers and they asked why the pilot didnt? When
the pilot did speak he was so garbled no one ever cared!

When are the airlines ever going to get rid of reclining seats? There is nothing more annoying than the person in front of you
reclining all the way into your lap for a 5 hour flight! Nothing like having that tray table in your gut and knees in the back of the seat,
then we you move the guy in front of you always gets annoyed! Do us all a favor people, unless you have a kid behind you, make do
with NOT reclining!

The Fasten Seat Belt Sign - Does SWA always leave that light on whenever the flight attendants are actually serving drinks?
Seems like to me whenever you hit the tiniest of bumps that light comes on right when you have to go! Then it is usally another
hour it stays on even though there is any turbulance, and miraculously goes off when the flight attendants go the back for their
social hour and reading of magazines.

To me SWA is like any other airline these days, We are going to stick with the airlines that let you pick a seat and even give you
a movie or Direct TV for a 5 hour flight!

@Lisa A - I'm glad you guys and gals got a chuckle out of SetSeatingFree.com, but so far it is a very lonely bulletin board.

I want to go on record as a person who is opposed to assigned seating. I think Southwest Airlines first come, first serve policy is absolutely the best. Not only is it fairer than assigned seating, it just makes much more sense. Please do not return to assigned seating. Thanks!

PLEASE retain open seating. It has worked for Southwest and I can't imagine that you would think that you could speed up boarding with assigned seating. I know you have watched the other major airlines struggling with all types of seating scenarios and none of them are as efficient as your current system. With internet, and most now have it or access to it, it is simple to print out your boarding pass 24 hours in advance. I can't remember ever getting a B or C Boarding card. I live in Las Vegas so please don't try it out here. You have an extremely efficient crew here in Las Vegas and we always leave on time if the incoming equipment is on time and it is most all the time.. In many cases we are ready to go 5 minutes before the scheduled departure. Thanks for being such a great airline and Thanks for using only Boeing 737's - the most efficient airplane made and wait until you start using the - 900's. Great fuel efficient plane!
Al (Big Al) Bjorklund

I just read about this in the news.
IMO, open seating would be better if you would decease the size of your groups.
I am sure that you could still do it as fast with A - Z (10-15 people in a group).
I think that would eliminate the pre-boarding line up which I hate.
If I know that the flight is not very full and I have no carry-on, I usually just wait to the end to avoid all of it.
While I don't mind open seating, I do know quite a few people that avoid SWA completely because of it.

My husband & are Southwest frequent flyers, and we are both VERY DISAPPOINTED that you are ready to jump on the assigned seats bandwagon. WHAT IS WRONG WITH OPEN SEATING?

Personally I don't mind the "cattle call" now that you've perfected it so that you don't have to stand in line for an hour before the flight leaves. I can check in online 24 hours ahead of time and get an "A" "B" or "C" card and that's fine by me. I don't believe that the people who won't fly Southwest are going to be converting in droves because of assigned seating. How many people do you think fly your airline because they have a bit more control over where they sit? Sure, you can get your seat ahead of time on other airlines, but that only lets you pick where you want to sit. It has no control over who you're sitting next to, and with Southwest's boarding I can at least have some control over that aspect of things... and computer systems always have problems now and then. I've been on several flights on other airlines where our departure was delayed because the same seat had been assigned to more than one person. None of that crap on Southwest. I think you should leave your seating system alone and not mess with something that works fine the way it is!

I really like open seating.KEEP IT! I have notice the pilots don't have much to say. Are they stressed out? Sometimes they could be a little more reassuring when you experience turbalance.

SWA has some very nice people working for them.

My husband & I are Southwest frequent flyers. WE LOVE OPEN SEATING!!! As far as we are concerned, assigning seats is the first step on the road to hell. There will be no reason to choose Southwest over all other airlines. I want to choose my seat away form screaming children and oversized people. This is a terrible idea! Please, please, please donÃ

I have had too many bad experiences with open seating to go into. Bottom line - please, please, please, start assigned seating.

A few comments regarding open seating:

1. Keep it. With a few minor mods. I like having options as to where I sit when boarding the plane.
2. More clealy delineate the A,B,C lines - like Huston Hobby. Seems to help reduce confusion and unintended "line cutting".
3. Pre-boarding for frequent flyers - (i.e. pre-board if you've qualified for a companion pass - very easy to administer).

Thanks.

This was the most persuasive comment I saw:

"It will be MUCH EASIER for Southwest loyal fliers to adapt to the change of assigned seating than to try and continue to force the "cattle-call" on new customers, and I'm quite certain the market research that Southwest has done demonstrates this or they wouldn't be testing it out.--Dave Moore in Salt Lake City"

The comments here show that some percentage of people are annoyed by the A/B/C process. To these people an assigned seat provides a security blanket. I don't understand it, but it's clearly a fact. My proposed conquest promotion does not address this problem.

It's also clearly a fact that today's easy-to-please Southwest customers will accept most kinds of change, including assigned seating, without defecting. Therefore Kelly is correct that careful consideration of a change is warranted.

Is there a way to combine the best of both systems? Perhaps. Personally I wouldn't mind assignment of part of the cabin (say, the back 1/4 and the front 1/4, boarded in that order) if those passengers had to pay an extra $10 to $20 for each non-middle assigned seat. For their extra money they would get earlier boarding, meaning assured bin space. When I have to gate check my roller bag, I'll just have to remind myself that these people are helping hold down my fares.

Anyway, my point is that after reading the blog comments I no longer contend that nearly everyone will prefer the A/B/C system once they get to know it. Some people are just not relaxed enough to adapt to it, and those people could bring significant revenue to Southwest.

On the other hand, assigned seating might require creation of an elite program: "Without open seating, IÃ

Open seating rewards those passengers who are organized; if you check in online,than it is likely that you'lll be in the first few groups to get on; if you wait til the last mintue, you still have a chance of getting a decent seat, it just depends upon when you get your act together. IF you implement assigned seating, and if you do like the other airlines (who are all losing money so why do you want to do what they do???), then only a certain percentage will truly be available for assigned seating up until day of departure. So if you have to book late, then you won't get an assigned seat. That translates into more folks getting in line at the ticket or gate and bugging the agent about getting a seat. BTW, I love SWA and even though you don't fly into my city, I'll still drive 2 or 3 hours to fly on you, either OMA or MCI, because SWA truly adds value to each customer experience.

I live in Las Vegas and fly Southwest quite often. I love the idea of open seating and hope you will continue doing so.Nearly 100% of the time I am in the A-group and I don't mind arriving early to get a decent seat. There are certain seats that are more comfortable for me due to the placement of the windows. I get these and can just snuggle in, get comfortable and go to sleep. Thanks Southwest for making flying easy and hassle free. I have friends here from Australia at the moment . I just dropped them off at the airport for a flight to Phoenix for the weekend. They always request Southwest when flying within the US. They too, love Southwest. In other words, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". Thank you.

It is inconceivable that assigned seats will board more efficiently than the current SWA group procedure. Isn't that the reason you board in groups? I am a 55 year old lawyer who flies a lot. The current SWA system works. So it seems like the bus; who cares? I want the bus to run on time. If I want to take a cab or a limo [or another airline], I can do so. The system works. Please do not screw with it.

Open seating is the best. Anything else just takes more time. Please don't change.

I just read about your blog in the newspaper and about the assigned seating test. Don't do it! There is an energy and vitality that emanates from the open seating policy. It (and your low prices) are what make Southwest different from the other airlines. Open seating allows frequent flyers to book a few days before a flight and still get a good seat. I love your other improvements--online
check in and wireless check in. Just don't go too far.

Living in Phoenix and having many choices of flights on Southwest or America West/USAirways, I always choose America West because the fares are usually identical and I prefer an assigned seat. Alaska Airlines airlines has assigned seats but experimented with open boarding, and it was total chaos. They have since returned to more orderly boarding. Recently, waiting for a flight on America West from LAX to PHX I couldn't help but notice the chaos and uncivility of the boarding process at the next gate of Southwest Airlines. I was grateful again to board AWA. I'm sorry if this sounds snobbish, but many here in Phoenix refer to Southwest as "The Flying Trailer" or "The Trailor with Wings." I flew Southwest once, and that was enough. As long as Southwest continues it's uncivilized boarding process, I will NEVER fly this airline. (But I do love Peanuts!)

Thank you!
PS: Go USAirways!!!

Please, Please, Please - Do not listen to these people who think you have to stand in line for an hour with an "A" boarding pass to get a good seat. If they invested the amount of time that it took them to read this blog into checking out the different ways to get an "A" and what seats are available to the very last "A" boarder, they would know better. I fly 15-20 RT's per year on Southwest and have never seen the problems they describe with the boarding process. If you decide that you just have to try this, the best idea I have heard is to allow assigned window and aisle seats at the rear of the plane only and even allow them to preboard, as long as they do not have any overhead bin carryon luggage. This way, the passengers who are stuck with a "C" pass will at least have a good shot at having overhead bin space even if they are sitting in a middle seat at the back of the plane.

I strongly urge you to keep the present ticketing method. As a business traveler I often have to leave within a few days notice.
The ability to have an "A" seat is a very strong reason I fly southwest. The current ticketing system sets up apart from the
other airlines. I would look at flying other airlines (which I only do now if I have too) should your go to assigned seating.
You have no club rooms. no premier status seating, no premier first seating status, no first class or upgrades and no
premier step levels. I believe that sooner or later the other major airlines will be close to you on price and without the
above you will just be another airline who nothing to offer other than price. The majority of business travelers will then take
another look at what the other airlines are offering. I think you would lose more business than you would gain. The business
travelers of this country are the big generators of your reveune not the vacation or leisure travelers. Thanks

I have been a dedicated Southwest flyer for so long that desk agents are usually surprised at my LOW frequent
flyer number. I also fly other airlines when I have to and I know from experience that seat assignment does not reduce the time one spends waiting in line to board.

Why not board and de-plane from both ends of the
plane? This is fairly common in Europe and certainly reduces the amount fo time it takes to get on or off the plane.

OR---why not reward those passengers with NO carry-on luggage by allowing them to board right after the "pre-boarders"? The biggest delay in boarding is caused by those passengers who have huge or several carry-ons which they can't maneuver down (up?) the aisle, can't
find an empty bin, or can't hoist their too-heavy luggage
up into the bin. If you have only a SINGLE purse or briefcase or computer case, you could scmper on board and seat yourself with dispatch.

I understand that extra minutes spent on the ground do not generate revenue, but I can't imagine that assigned seating is a step forward.
Ruth Anderson

Why do people fundamentally not understand that checking in for a flight is different from purchasing a ticket? Even if you wait until the day before the flight to purchase a ticket , you can still get an A boarding pass. And with an A pass, what's with "waiting in line for hours?" No, you can wait in the seats, like you would for any flight on any airline, and slide in at the end of the A line and still get a window or aisle seat.

Open seating is one of the best things about Southwest. I appreciate that the airline is open to changes and innovation, and there may be some merit to instituting seat assignment to a small subset of longer-haul flights. But please leave open seating for flights that are 90 minutes or less.

Ive been flying LUV for 12 years now, been an investor for 6,and I can't think of a single reason to give up open seating. It represents one of the few remaining democratic institutions in this country, a leveler if you will. If you want assigned seating go fly America Worst or some other legacy carrier. I want to board quick, get there quick, and get off quick, and SWA is the only carrier that lets me do it.
Oh yeah, and do it cheaply too ;)
If you want to get an assigned seat, go elsewhere and pay more, but leave my open plan alone.

If your looking to make more revenue, how about child free flights? I have to travel trans-con about twice a year and I would gladly pay an additional 20% if you could guarantee that there would be no children under the age of 12 on the plane. You bill the obese more for crowding out seats, why not charge more for kids, who do nothing but make the ride miserable for the rest of us

please leave the system in place. it is undoubtly the quickest way to board. i fly on your system once or twice a month and when i have to go on another airline i don't like it. maybe you can refine it by boarding a group boarding pass 1-15 then 16-30 and so on. the boarding passes are numbered when you check in online. the people that don't like the cattle call will just complain about something else. i'd rather save money and get there on time. if it aint broke don't fix it.
thanks

When we started flying Southwest several years ago I would have been one of those asking for seating assignments but
it didn't take me long to appreciate your efficiency and hope you don't change it.

Maybe this would make all happy. As most resverations are probably made on line, why not give the passenger the option to pay maybe $10 extra to pick and get an assigned seat. The ones that like the herd boarding can opt not to pay and take their chances. If SWA is really worried about fast boarding they should do more at the gate about the size and amount of carry on luggage, also the crew on board should do more getting people to seats and seated. Any time I have flown SWA there are always late boarders going up and down looking for seats and space in the overheads. If Swa did allow the option to chose seats they could get more for the seat, and at boarding they could let the passengers with assigned seats be the first to board. As a senior passenger, with SWA policy that does not allow a senior ticket holder to check in online, it is impossible no matter how early you arrive at the airport to get an A boarding pass

No to ending Cattle Call seating. If they want assigned seating let them pay for it. $50-200 per seat. Just reserve 8-12 seats in the middle of the plane and charge them a surcharge. Once they are sold, check in for your A, B, C boarding pass. I wouldn't pay extra but if it's that big a deal then they might put their money where their mouth is. (Idea stolen from Morris Air) I know the only place a plane makes money is in the air, not boarding passengers at the gate.

What do you folks think of this guy's suggestion -- half assigned, half unassigned:

http://upgradetravel.blogspot.com/2006/06/modest-proposal-for-southwest....

I am very glad Southwest came to Denver, but we will not fly any airline with cattle call boarding ever again, unless it is MUCH cheaper than the other options. Traveling can be stressful enough anymore, we don't need the extra stress of rushing to try to get good seat together. It is obvious that the loyal Southwest flyers are the ones that like the current system and also that they are the only ones who post here, so I doubt this is a true picture of what the average person likes but it is a good picture of what your loyal flyers like. I understand why some people would like the existing system, but for us it makes Southwest the LAST airline we would choose for a flight.

Start assigning seating now!! Get rid of the ridiculous cattle-car system that you now operate. If you continue not assigning seats, you will remain the least desirable airline. As it is now, NO ONE wants to fly your cattle car airline.

Assigning seats and boarding aircraft in a humane, courteous manner will NOT add any time to your time on the ground.

Do the right thing; assign seats.

Don't change your open seating policy! That is one reason we fly SWA 100% of the time if we can. Too many airlines that have seat assignments won't assign them until you arrive at the airport. Only on a recent trip to Hawaii did Hawaiian Airlines assign a seat at the time of booking. We like to pick who we sit next to. Mainly not screaming kids and people coughing their heads off.

Don

Please assign the seats. What is wrong with you people that don't want assigned seating? I am in the Baltimore area and have to fly Southwest often. I want to know where I am sitting. The game of checking in online as quickly as I can drives me nuts and there is no reason for it. I find myself going to extreme lengths to ensure I get a A group boarding pass. Then I have to stand in line with a swarm of of people all fighting over their seats. It's a joke. Just give me my seat!

NOOOOOOO! TO ASSIGNED SEATING.

I have been a loyal Southwest customer for more than fifteen years. I love the efficiency. I love the reasonable prices. Most of all, I love the culture of the company and its belief in egalitarian treatment of its customers. I have flown other airlines and found that they simply do not compare to Southwest. Now I fly Southwest exclusively for business and vacations, and I am a proud "unpaid" representative for the company. I like the quirkiness of the company and its flight attendants are the best. I strongly urge you to keep open seating for all the great reasons given by everyone. I agree with comments that the system could be improved. For example, a simple rule that getting in line means actually getting up and taking your place in line would probably eliminate most of the arguments that happen when people try to hold a space with luggage or simply pushing to the front.

I personally did not start out being a fan of the cattle line. However, after trying other airlines, I found that I love the company and have grown to understand the rules of the cattle line, which is symbolic of so much about Southwest. I had the privilege of flying to San Francisco this past week during Southwest's celebration of 35 great years in business. I took a copy of the in-flight magazine as a little memento of this wonderful event. On my way to Cally I sat next to two annoying people who talked incessantly about some film they were working on, taking time out to complain about everything. They complained with their nose up in the air about the cattle line. They complained about the jingles, which delighted most of the other passengers who clapped and asked for more. They complained about the people clapping (which made me clap enthusiastically) and called the airline cornie. I wonder why such people fly Southwest to complain. Maybe it's all the great reasons the rest of us fly Southwest, but their cynicism won't let them just sit back and enjoy the ride.

I'm not saying all people who want assigned seating are miserable, but based on the conversations I've seen and had personally, many of these people dislike LUV's open seating not just because it is inconvenient to them, but primarily because they look down on the culture of LUV and how open seating fits into that culture. Listen to your loyal customers. They are happy and sold on the company on so many levels. That type of loyalty is rare these days and is what many other companies dream about. You have it. Please don't throw it away by trying to be part of the exclusive airline club - that club ain't doing so well these days and is nothing to emulate. I and many others like that Southwest is not like the other airlines. I would be sad and a little disillusioned if you tried to remake yourself in the image of your competitors. I have been loyal to other companies who disappointed me or tried to be more like the rest. I can tell you that once they became too much like everybody else, they lost a lot of my business because then "what's the point."

If you decide to change to open seating to satisfy some customers, then I agree with suggestions to make a small section in the front or back available for limited assigned seating and let people who enthusiastically want to pay more for this service do so. I would seriously caution you that before making this change, try to to make sure that you are changing to meet the needs of loyal customers or potentially loyal customers who otherwise love and respect the culture of the company. Otherwise, you would be making a fundamental change that would make many already loyal customers very unhappy to try to satisfy customers and potential customers who will just start complaining about something else until they've succeeded in making you just like all the other crappy LUVLESS airlines.

Please keep in mind that no matter how wide you open your arms, some people just will not accept LUV! As for me and many like me, you had us at "hello!" Keep up the great work.

Finally, your anniversary magazine had pictures of Southwest ads from the 70's, including some very cool flight attendant uniforms. Is there any way you could make these available for sale to the public as posters? I'd buy them and I'm sure other would, as well.

P.S. - If you ever need an extremely qualified corporate tax attorney to work inhouse, my resume is available upon request!

Lisa

Please don't change. I am a Native Texan and live in OKC, and I have flown SW my whole life (you guys are 2 years younger than I am). The best part is not being treated like nobody because you aren't a frequent flyer. I know that SW wants more business revenue, and assigned seating might even be an option for really big airports, but surely there's a way to preserve the cattle call.

Please keep your open seating policy! It allows me the freedom to sit near people I want to sit with. On my last flight I just wanted to read my book and unwind from a crazy week. I was able to sit in between two other passengers who were already reading when I arrived. Other than exchanging what each was reading and whether it was a book worthy of noting we read and flew in relative silence. ALoow mw the freedom to stay away from small children and enjoy my flight.

assigned seating is a terrible idea. i travel for business and pleasure about 16 times yearly. i mostly care to be on time wherever imm flying to. if there are no assigned seats and i have have business work to do i can avoid sitting next to infants ,small children as well
i cant necessarily do that with assigned seating. im subject to the luck of the draw.

on time matters.dont you really think that assigned seating will significantly slow down the process of boarding the plane?
the bottom line is some people are just slow to board.its in their nature. add assigned seating and your on-time performance
will drop drasticallly.bank on it..

Hey,

Thanks for the update. If effeiciency is an issue, why spend the money to reprogram a computer system to accept assigned seats?s. It also means that Southwest will need to employee people to straighten out problems with seat assignemnts and juggle last minute changes for those that are not happy with them. This is going to be an added cost which will invetibly need to be passed on. Rather than having people be upset about open seating, they will be upset that they did not get the seat assignment they wanted. Most of the passengers I have spoken with whom I have spoken do not like the system because they cannot arrive to the airpoirt late and still get a good seat. The system, as it currently stands, encourages people to get to the airport early. That is one of the reasons flights are able to turn around quickly. Leeting people arrive later, because they have assigned seats, is bound to slow the process down.

The system in its current state is inheritantly simply and incredibly democratic. If I arrive when I am supposed to, I get a good seat. if I choose to run late, I don't. I have no one to blame but myself.

Rather than spending this money on a computer upgrade and extra staff to manage an assigned seating system, why not take the money and put it into audio and video systems on long flights. That would be a better expense.

Thanks for letting me express myself.

As a west coast executive that fly's more then one hundred flights a year with Southwest I would like to comment on Southwest's decision to look at assigned seating. I work in an office with five other people and we all fly at least one or two round trips a week on Southwest and while there are plenty of other carriers out there we use Southwest for the convenience.
We also use Southwest because our business needs often require us to book our tickets within 48 to 72 hours of our departure and the open seating on Southwest assures us that, as long as we check in early, we can still get an "A" boarding pass that will allow us to carry on our luggage and to pick an aisle seat.
We are concerned that if Southwest were to go to assigned seating that the premium seats would all be reserved well in advance by the vacationers that book their tickets months in advance, and usually pay lower rates (internet specials), and that even though we are paying full fare we would be forced to sit in the center seats and not be able to sit together as a group.
As frequent fliers on Southwest we would like to see the open seating remain and if it were to change we would most likely choose another carrier that could reward our loyalty by upgrading us to fist class seating. We have a long history with Southwest and often recommend them to other business associates and we would hate to see that relationship change.

Please reconsider and keep the open seating!

I've been waiting for this ever since the 24 hour 0nline booking went into effect. I'm primarily a business traveler on SW, and its gotten to the point that you feel lucky if you can get into B group seating, even when booking online shortly after the 24 hour window opens. I'm done with the cattle call. Hail to the SW execs that are taking this by the horns!! Yea, many are up in arms, but they are probably the same business guys who are paying web companies to pre-reserve for them. Enough with the wining. Just keep your on-time efficiency, plenty of flight options, and low prices and we'll be there. That's what SW is really all about.

Please keep the current seating system. I find it much less stressful than assigned seating, where, due to my usual late reservations, I get no assignment until boarding time and thus I almost always get middle seats. The seating policy is a chief reason why I now fly exclusivelyt Southwest, and why I will go back to other airlines if it is changed to assigned seats.

I am agreement with the majority of the comments concerning assigned seating. Southwest has been a leader for years, not to mention profitable. If you chose to assign seats, my business will probably go elsewhere. Keep in mind that I have earned a companion pass for two years running. Southwest has been a tremendous airline to fly. Don't mess with success!

I recently flew USAirways (not my choice) to a conference in Minnesota. A disaster in the loading process.

KEEP OPEN SEATING!!!

My suggestion for open seating is to allow passengers without carryon luggage to board first. The larger the carryon, the further back in the line. This would certainly reward those of us that check ou luggage and reduce our stress while we stand behind all those people with those huge bags. And it would certainly encourage more people to check their bagd

Please keep open seating. As a frequent Southwest traveler, I find the open seating efficient and convenient. I also travel with a child and the open seating is far more convenient than assigned seating. Please consider your passengers with children under 2. Since we are not
able to print early boarding passes or get seating assignments online because of our lap child, I find Southwest's open seating to be much better than say America West and Nothwest AND British Airways - AND Delta!!!! I have flown all of these with my lap child and only the Southwest flights were easy and comfortable experiences. If you do move to assigned seating, please consider how you will deal with assignments for travelers with lap children when they purchase tickets online. Thank You!

Welp, 200 comments later, and we can summarize the pro-cattle-call-camp as follows:

1. I love being able to buy my ticket at the last minute and still get a good seat.

My counter argument: as a business traveller, I too buy my tickets at the last minute--and yet I almost always get a good seat anyway, just by asking when I check-in if I can sit in the exit row, or front bulkhead. Half the time, it's no problem. But I didn't have to print my boarding pass at midnight and stand in line for an hour.

2. I hate kids.

Really, that's what most of these "keep me away from the screaming children" (and the guy who wants "kid-free flights") are sayiing. Well here's a clue for you kid-haters: I PAID FOR THEIR SEATS, TOO. In fact, unlike you, who just paid for your own behind to be on the plane, I bought at least three, probably four tickets. I'd say that makes me MORE valuable to the airline than you, don't you?

In any case, I have never, ever been bothered by a child--but drunk adults talking at the top of their lungs and laughing at crude jokes across seventeen states seems to happen every third flight. How about we make THOSE people fly in the cargo hold, while I play with my kids?

3. I like the rock-n-roll, free-wheeling, slug-fest that is the cattle call.

Well, whatever floats your boat. I guess if the Greyhound experience is what puts the romance back into flying for you, good for you.

But the economic reality for SWA is this: they have the highest labor costs in the industry. Without their famous fuel hedges, they'd be losing money. Meanwhile the legacy carriers, fresh from Chapter 11, have lower seat-mile costs than SWA, but have fully developed networks that can get people from East Podunk to East Timore with one connection--something SWA will NEVER have (look at their route-map--they don't cover half the country!)

On the other flank, AirTran, Frontier, and jetBlue all offer the same smiling, joking in-flight staff as SWA, at the same low prices, but they also offer XM Radio, DirecTV--and assingned seating.

SWA isn't run by dummies stuck in the past. They know who they're battling and what they need to do to survive; when they see people flock to AIrTran to fly to Boston in a pre-assigned seat, instead of stand in line to fly to Providence between two fatsos, they know it's time to change up the game and consider new things.

Speaking of Boston, my next prediction is that Logan will soon be the next airpot to get some LUV, as part of that bid to stay competitive. No doubt you open-seaters will all come on here and rant about what a mistake that is because you enjoy that drive down from Manchester.

Ed from Vegas wrote: "As a senior passenger, with SWA policy that does not allow a senior ticket holder to check in online, it is impossible no matter how early you arrive at the airport to get an A boarding pass"

This was once the case, but for the better part of a year Southwest has provided a way for seniors to mail in proof of age and get age-verified for online check-in ability. This is explained at http://www.southwest.com/travel_center/seniors.html

Others have posted that you need to have a working printer to get an A. This is also incorrect. Just check in online without printing. When you get to the airport, go to the kiosk and it will print you the same letter that you saw earlier on your computer screen. If you can't be at a computer 24 hours ahead, phone a friend and have him do the check-in for you without printing. YOU DON'T NEED THE PRINTOUT AT ALL.

If you go to assigned seats we will still fly you 1st choice. BUT, I wish the groups (A, B, C) were smaller (I think they used to be).
THe A Group is so large that most of them stand and form a line about 20 before the plane arrives. I hate that!

You might keep (almost) everyone happy by not assigning seats but admitting people to the jetway strictly by the NUMBER on the
boarding pass. (Every time I have printed my boarding pass 23 hours and 55 minutes before scheduled departure time,
it has a #, A8 A12 etc.) So just use that order. Then people would stay seated until time to board. Because A 25 can't get on
before A1, A2 ..... A24 no matter how early you get "in line". (Then watch people swap their low #s for a price,
especially on WN711!

No no no. Please don't dismiss open seating. I love Southwest Airlines. I book flights at the last minute like so many other Southwest regulars and the open seating arrangment would be a huge loss to me. However, beyond any of that is the fact I really appreciate the open seating concept for what it is and would hate to see it disappear. The open seating is one of the reasons I love and continue to fly Southwest Airlines.

I love Southwest because IT DOES NOT ASSIGN SEATS! CUSTOMERS WANT TO BE IN CONTROL OF WHERE THEY SIT FOR HOURS. Customers with anxiety, obesity, or are claustrophobic need to BE IN CONTROL OF THEIR SEATING ARRANGEMENTS. Customers WANT TO CHOSE THEIR SEAT MATES. Customers DO NOT WANT TO WAIT IN LINE WHILE OTHER FLYERS TRY TO GET THEIR SEAT ASSIGNMENTS CHANGED. Please do NOT CHANGE YOUR SEATING POLICY. If you want to change something, make the seat belts longer.

I don't really understand all the complaints about open seating vs. assigned seating. In both systems, the seat you get is dependent on your actions prior to boarding.

With open seating, you are rewarded for checking in early, either at the airport or online, and you are rewarded again for getting to the gate on time and securing your position within your boarding group. The people who make reservations closer to the date of the flight, and therefore pay the most for their seats, have an opportunity to get good seats.

With assigned seating, you are rewarded twice for planning far in advance ... you get the lowest fares and you get the best seats. People who make their reservations closer to the date of the flight, often through no fault of their own, are "punished" twice ... they pay the most and they get the worst seats.

It seems that open seating gives more people more freedom and control over their "destiny" and this seems to fit Southwest's culture and image to a tee.

Neither systems is perfect. Stay with the system that gives more people the "freedom to fly."

Ed Steward says that some people "won't fly us now because of the lack of seating assignments." I say that those people are not TRUE Southwest customers anyway..so who cares what they say?? I've been flying SWA since 1994..have had companion passes every year since 2001...

Gary, as a weekly flyer of Southwest, I HATE HATE HATE the idea of assigned seating. One of the many
charms of flying Southwest is you can find total strangers while waiting to board, and then being lucky
enough to find someone interesting who you actuallly WANT to sit next to. No screaming kids, no middle
seat if you are smart enough to print your boarding pass online (hello, that's one of the reasons you guys
are the most successful in getting your customers to print online, saving you big time cash !), and always being
able to sit at the back of the plane. My biggest question to you is this: Why in the world would you want to copy
the business practices of your failed and failing competitors ? You are basically the only successful airline in
the country, and that is because from the beginning you have strived to be different. Please do not take away
those things that make me pick YOU over the competitors. If I wanted to fly Delta or United, I would book them.
The next thing you know, I'll be reading about your considering changing your Rapid Rewards program. STOP
STOP STOP ! Be SOUTHWEST AIRLINES, not your miserable competitors !

Comparing changing from plastic to paper boarding passes is not even close to a comparision of going to assigned seating.
I am a very frequent business traveler & I am completely against switching to assigned seating.
This is what makes Southwest unique & efficient.
Simply put, the convenience of booking/changing flights at the last second & still have the ability to get an aisle seat is what
allows me to easily chose Southwest over say Continental or Delta. This also allows me to complete my booking online a hell of
a lot faster then using the other airlines system. You change the system to what all other airlines do & my easy decision to fly
Southwest just changed to a decision between 3 airlines. Conclusion - I probably would fly Southwest 1/3 of the time vs. 90%+
under the current successful system. I guarantee you would lose more business frequent flyers than you will gain. The
compromise of creating a "1st class" of say 5 rows, where those people say they would pay "20% more" for an assigned seat,
does make some sense.

WE LUV the way things are here in Texas......I luv getting my A boarding passes online. You guys have flown our 5 children, by themselves from SAT to LAX for the last years, twice a year. We would not change a thing. My kids would not know what to do if Mom did not get them an A borading pass. They laugh, but they luv it! Thanks for always having the best service, prices and people! WE LUVV you all here in TX....

I very strongly disagree with the idea of going to assigned seating. Those who complain are probably those who just don't want to be put out at all....they want the best of all possible worlds, being I get to show up in the last thrfee minutes of boarding with a tremendous amount of luggage and handle it all my way...me, me me me. Well, I am just as much about me; but I am willing to go through the horrible hassle of getting my electronic boarding pass early....(all of 1.5 minutes on the worst day ever), standing in line (15 minutes yesterday, worst since you started using electronic boarding passes...so what?) checking my bags (gee, curbside service by smiling Sky Caps...what a hassle that is...excuse me?) I do'nt get it. The Southwest experience ,being so different, is an 'opt in' kind of situation. If you don't want to play that game, go elsewhere and stop whining! The same folks who are so concerned about assigned seating are generally never going to be happy with whatever seat they get, where they put their bags, blah, blah blah. If it's REALLY importnat, I think those folks should probably go first class somewhere else, and bite the bullet and pay up for it.

I have sure had a lot of fun flying open seating. I like you just the way you are.....PLEASE DON'T CHANGE IT!!!!!

I really don't care one way or the other about the assigned seating. What difference does it really make. Folks that travel on SW constantly know the system and know how to get "A" boarding. If you go to assigned seating, the frequent travelers will still get the preferential seats anyway - assuming you will grant some type of tiered loyalty system based upon our frequency of flying SW.

This is what irks me. I am usually at a gate at LEAST 2 hours before boarding. Invariably, I am # 1 in the "A" line. By boarding time, here come all the preboards. Poof - the preferred seats are gone. Have you ever really looked at and examined your pre-boarding policy? I would venture to say that SW has more preboaders than any other airline - certainly a lot more than the norm for the industry. I have no problem with the wheelchairs and those on crutches, etc. I see, time after time, many able-bodied people preboard. Talking to the gate attendants, they are told "not to question" anyone who gets in the preboard line - blue sleeve or not. I have even asked able-bodied men why they are in preboard and the answer was that no one ever questions them, so they do it. I can understand letter a mother with a baby in arms preboard - but why let every kid "5 or under" preboard. What purpose does that serve? Really? What purpose? None that I can think of.

Unless SW can restructure their preboard policy, then I will be in favor of assigned seating.

One other complaint. I frequently travel SAT to MSY, connecting in HOU. Always arrive in Gates 40-50, or so. On my return flight, again I always arrive somewhere between, say, 40-50. EVERY TIME on the return flight, I have to connect through Gates 1-7, which means I have to change terminals and go through that damn security again. How about shifting this around a little bit? Send the HOU to SAT flights out of 40-50 at least every now and then. I often take American to MSY just so I don't have to gon through this.

OK, I'm off the soap box.

Please, don't make any changes to Southwest. It is always our carrier of choice because of the open seating and the ease of getting a boarding pass. Not having to check-in at the gate is a real bonus.

I am concerned about third partys getting passes for others. I hope you are able to stop this practice.

Joan G.

Please, please, please go to assigned seats. I have flown Southwest for almost 30 years and have gotten to the point where I do not want to fly you because of this outdated system. I have seen in almost every instance harsh words and stress by passengers in lining up at the gate. People try to cut in line. We try to figure out where the line is. Does a bag in line constitue being in line? This is so stressful and so unnecessary. The rest of the flight is so enjoyable, why not make the whole flight experience enjoyable? I simply cannot believe this would impact your scheduling. If this was such a great system why did not other airlines adopt this system?

Okay, stop and think about what your are doing.

Years ago, Southwest created a strong brand, the definition of which is the sum total of the emotional connection a consumer feels for a product/company, created over time by every single interaction that consumer has had with that product/company. In the marketplace, strong brands have both APPEAL and DISTINCTION. One distinct element of your brand is unassigned seating. It is part of what separates you from the other airlines. So now you are thinking about trying to be like the other companies.

Are you not successful? Have you recently lost market share? Or did you recently hire the same people who worked for Coca Cola and years ago gave us the Ã

I DON'T fly Southwesat primarily because of the "open seating" policy. I am happy to pay an additional 20% for this service and I'm sure SWA would enjoy making extra income.

One of the primary reasons I don't like the open seating policy is the "herd mentality" you acquire when you stand in a Southwest line. I have to stand in line getting my ticket, going through security AND now 45-50 minutes BEFORE the flight jsut to get a "A or B" seat - heaven forbid if you get shamed into the "C" line.........

I pay good money to fly, not spend close to an hour BEFORE even getting on the plane standing in line like a child in school........

Life's a choice, I choose to spend my money AND time wisely when I travel, not standing in line like cattle to save $20.......

I DON'T fly Southwest primarily because of the "open seating" policy. I am happy to pay an additional 20% for this service and I'm sure SWA would enjoy making extra income.

One of the primary reasons I don't like this policy is the "herd mentality" you acquire when you stand in a Southwest line. I have to stand in line getting my ticket, going through security AND now 45-50 minutes BEFORE the flight just to get a "A or B" seat - heaven forbid if you get shamed into the "C" line.........

I pay good money to fly, not spend close to an hour BEFORE even getting on the plane standing in line like a kid in school........

Life's a choice, I choose to spend my money AND time wisely when I travel, not standing in line like cattle to save $20.......

HOORAH! HOORAH! ASSIGNED SEATING AT LAST! . I had to quit flying Southwest, because I could no longer stand in line and I dispise setting in the back of the plane. I can't imagine why anyone would like the "cattle call" which reduces you to a non-person. APPLAUSE APPLAUSE APPLAUSE for assigned seating.

I am 57, own a business, have been flying SW since the 1980's, Rapid Rewards member - I always look first to see if SW serves my destination. Having established some credibility, this is my opinion regarding assigned seating: NO, NEVER, NEVEREVER. Don't fool with the business plan that has made SW so successful. Why be no bettter than the others? Open seating allows me to book when I need to, choose the seat I want without all that 'class by money' system on the other airlines. With NW and others charging extra for window/aisle seats you should become the new darling of seating because of your open seating policy. How do you intend to get everyone loaded and meet your stated turn around goals? Have you ever been assigned a seat by a person with small, unhappy children, or a person who should have booked two seats for size comfort? Have you ever needed to jump of the plane to catch a connection and needed to be at the front. Freedom to choose! It goes well with 'Freedom to move around the country'.

PLEASEEEEEEEEE!!!!! keep your open seating!!!!!!! It is one of the most effecient things you can do for the boarding process. Too
many times I have seen passengers sit in the wrong seat, then disrupt the boarding process when the passenger with correct boarding pass shows up. I have been on lightly filled flights and watch in amazement as people MUST sit in their assigned seat even though there are many other vacant seats nearby------this, even at the very end of the boarding process.

Stay different & efficient!!!!! Especially if it helps keep your fares lower!!!

I love SWA. My wife and I are strictly vacationing travelers. The last time we flew UAL from BWI to LAX we were assigned
middle seats in the middle aisle. I felt like I was in a crowded theater, and forget about stowing your carry-on bags.
Our last trip via SWA was BWI to PHX, return via LAS to BWI. SWA offered more flights, more direct flights, and attractive senior discounts. Although we arrived at BWI one hour prior to departure, there were quite a few passengers in line already.
Their choice. The only problem we had was with carry-on luggage. The previously boarding passengers used their
overhead space, our overhead space, and anyone else's they could appropriate. Since we had only brought on one
shoulder bag each, they fit easily under the seat in front of us.
At LAS on our return trip, it was the opposite, three or four passengers standing in line. Again, their choice.
In both instances we were afforded the best remaining seats available, which were comfortable, if not a bit cozy.
I feel that the open seating policy is more convenient and faster than assigned seating. I hope that this policy remains in effect
and look forward to flying SWA in the future.

I recently traveled with southwest from SA TX to CA. with layovers in EPaso. I was pleased on how smoothly the loading of passengers was. At that time I paid attention of why and I realized that being able to choose which seat best suits individual passengers was a faster load because they did not want anyone else getting their chosen seat, making for a faster load process. I am a senior with a background which includes Airline passenger service across the globe. It was a pleasure traveling with you.

Gary,

PLEASE keep open seating. I travel over 100,000 miles a year on both SWA and AA here in Dallas. One of the worst things on AA is the "trainwreck" they call a boarding process (to be fair, it's the same on all the other non-SWA airlines). Watching the process once I get seated is a nightmare! Maude wants her bag in the overhead near her seat but Doug, who's eight rows back, put his bag there. Now Maude stands around looking for a place to stash her bag, holding up traffic until she has to head upstream and give it to the folks on the ramp to take below. Flight attendants are uncomfortable telling people to sit the heck down because - well - they need to be in "their" seat rather than the empty chair they're standing right next to. Finally, open seating introduces yet another common phenomenon: the guy who knows he has seat 6B so he waited until the plane was about to take off before running to the airport. With open seating, it's "so long, sucker" to that guy. I could go on...suffice it to say that I have now adopted a policy of closing my eyes until the cabin door is shut and everyone's seated on AA because I simply cannot stand to watch the boarding process anymore. During the same time on SWA, I'm usually striking up a great conversation with the person next to me, making the whole SWA experience more friendly, engaging, and enjoyable.

BTW - folks may not like the "mayhem" at the SWA gate area but, in my view, it's a "pay-me-now or pay-me-later" kind of thing. I'd rather take some jostling and confusion in the relatively large air-conditioned boarding area than have the continuous struggle in the cramped, one-aisle airplane where your excellent flight attendants will now find themselves hamstrung to do much to accelerate the process because - hey, it's the customer's assigned seat.

Good luck as you make the choice. Please know that the more you become like "them", the less compelling your value proposition becomes for "us".

Joe

P.S. I'm not an airline operations expert but I really have a hard time believing even Southwest can load an "assigned seat" aircraft as fast as it does a "open seating" plane today. I hope someone in Operations is traveling on other airlines to see what a disaster it is (and it only seems to get worse with higher load factors).

Please contact your weekly fliers on this topic. For those who fly "once-in-a-while" would not mind the open seating. I would prefer to have a selected seat than watch all these people rush to a seat. Most people act like it is the day after Christmas sale and do whatever it takes to get a seat!

Keep the seating as is. Down with the idea of assigned seating. I like Southwest the way it is.

Bill in San Antonio

I am not a business frequent flyer. I travel from SAT to Lubbock to vsit my mother . I get my boarding pass online. I have always been pleased with the quickness with which SWA boards passengers. Having assigned seating seems to slow down boarding because of people looking for seat numbers--bumping into others while looking overhead. I have never stood in line but a few minutes to board. For those who have stood in line 45 minutes, they could wait to get in line until their letter is called. We are all going to get to our destination at the same time no matter where we sit. I believe looking for an open seat is faster and smoother--and assigned seats don't mean a person won't be put by children. To those who feel they are so important they must have advance seating in first class--let those few fly with a second-class airline.

WOW....IS THIS TRUE, ARE YOU REALLY GOING TO HAVE ASSIGNED SEATING? No, No, No. I am a devoted flyer with
Southwest, and if I ever have to fly another airline, I am not a happy camper, unless it is some overseas company that I have to
fly to get to my destination...Anyway...PLEASE KEEP OPEN SEATING...I LOVE IT, and being able to choose where I sit on your
flights are a big perk for me...Who needs seats to be assigned, and then being stuck in an area that you are not happy with.
I love to fly, and just the thought of being able to fly on Southwest and enjoy being with you in the skys above means so much
to me...SO NO MORE TALK ABOUT ASSIGNED SEATING...that is for SNOBS, not the real Southwest Airlines lover.
UNOCT@AOL.COM

Somebody in your Company doesn't have enough to do. When people don't have enough to do they start changing things. For example, they might want to change "open seating" to "assigned seating". Give those people something else to do. I am perfectly content with the "last one on gets to sit next to the lady with the squealing kid" policy. I certainly don't want to pay more, wait longer and still have to sit next to that person. I don't know who Gary Kelly is but I do know he doesn't have enough to do. Why doesn't he have enough to do? It is because Southwest airlines runs smoothly and effeiciently the way it is. Get Mr. Kelly a book of crossword puzzles or a jigsaw puzzle and lock him in the closet for the next twenty years. Or maybe you could buy Mr. Kelly a ticket on another airling and he could spend his time waiting for someone going up and down an aisle squinting at the seat numbers, trying to determine where they are supposed to sit. Changing to assigned seating is the most ridiculous thing of which I have ever heard.

Obviously SWA is doing something right, and that includes open seating. My travel agent can't believe that I actually enjoy flying SWA for that reason alone. But she does have respectful accolades for the airline.

Yes, the planes are full--what a great sign of loyalty and indication that thousands of people can't be wrong.

Yes, the seating is open--what a wonderful opportunity to sit together with friends, or make a new friend.

I personally enjoy seeing families pre-board, because they usually take up 2 of the 3 seats, leaving either the window or the aisle seats open. I bring along a set of earplugs, and enjoy my flight in relative quiet. And when Mom needs a break, I offer to watch the kiddos while she retreats to the restroom for a moment.

It's all part of the Southwest experience. If you don't have a preference for this type of flying, there are many other carriers for you to choose--make your choice and be a loyal flyer of that airline. For me, it's Southwest.

BTW, I do like the idea of restricting roller bags to gate check and not bringing them on board. It does take extra time to find room for them all, and increases the potential of injury when placing them in or taking them out of the overheads. United Express gate checks them, and its really not that much of a problem for the passenger. And they have a plan to handle all the door checked bags, which expedites the load process.

I've read the comments and as the spouse of one of the BEST Flight Attendants in the business, I had to speak up. With all of this

Please leave a good thing alone. I love the fact that I can choose my own seat. I sit where I want and am happy to do so. As far as
I can see the only people that want a change are those that are always in the "C" boarding pass area. You know the type. They are
the ones that are usually unprepared, bring more than two carry-ons, stand around the isles looking lost, bang other passengers
in the head with thier stuff, have a loved one that they were not able to sit with therefore bothering all of the other passengers
talking out to each other, passing notes etc. etc.etc... Southwest you are doing a wonderful job. Keep up the good work. If you
are determined to change something change the "plane" crackers. They are a cute idea but have no taste. My year old grandchild
did not even find them worth eating and you should see some of the things she will put in her mouth and eat. Thanks for
hearing us out and I think I just hear a "BING" so it must be time for me to move around the country.

We have flown Southwest on several occasions, but choose to fly other airlines because they offer assigned seating. The main reason is that we do not have to arrive hours in advance, wait in lines for the boarding numbers and be a part of the mayhem and stressful environment that we have experienced. If Southwest does adopt boarding passes, we will choose them more often. But that is what is so great about this country, we have choices. We were happy to see the recent article and hope that you will implement the program. How difficult is it to find the row of seats to which you would be assigned? The primary airline which we fly now boards in a timely manner. We can check-in online, get our boarding passes online, stop by the kiosk at the airport to check in any luggage, which is so convenient, and go through security. All this makes the travel experience much better.

My wife and I enjoy flying Southwest and like the open seating very much. We do not have to book months in advance to get an Aisle seat and we can make an instant adjustment as where we sit when we get on the plane.

The present method is faster for Southwest (and for the passengers) than that of other airlines, it is relatively hassle free and it works. Why mess with it???

Please keep the present system.

Assigned seating would definitely get me and my family in them more often. Thanks for giving it a try.
I hope it catches on and spreads throughout the system.

I definitely would like Southwest to begin the assigned seats system. I am not disabled enough to qualify for the pre-boarding, but do have arthritis and cannot stand in line for an hour or more in order to ensure that I get an aisle seat. Due to my arthritis, it is necessary for me to stand and move around during flights lasting longer than a couple of hours. Needless to say, it is very, very difficult to get to the aisle from a middle or window seat.

I would even be willing to pay more for a ticket if you would also provide larger assigned seats.

Judi Mitchell

The current every man for himself system brings out the worst in humanity. I have seen diplorable behavior in these lines just to get a better seat. I have seen pushing, shoving, arguments, and near fist fights when the line starts to form. This is not to mention those people that put their luggage in the "A" line then disappear until boarding. Last time I checked that was a security violation. What really gets to me is the people that stand in line for an hour for a 40 min flight. I just don't get it. This current free for all is what keeps me from flying Southwest. I pay more to fly US Airways out of Philly just to avoid this mess. If you know US Airways in Philly, I am speaking volumes by voluntarily choosing US Air. JUST GIVE ME A SEAT ASSIGNMENT ALREADY!!!!

I am a lesuire traveler and fly 2-3 times a year. In the past 13 years I have tried several different airlines. I guess you could say I ave experienced a sampling of each. I belong to several frequent flyer programs including Southwest. This past May was my first on Southwest and I prefer the open seating rather than assigned. It is a unique Southwest Concept that makes Southwest a better airline. My first thoughts of the open seating were it would take twice as long to board. But I found that everyone got seated quicker than on other airlines that I have flown. Plus every seat was occupied and there were no complaints. Please scrap the assigned seating concept in favor of the Southwest way. "If it an't broken don't fix it!"

Please do not change your seating system. If your true reason to explore assigned seating is for passenger boarding efficiency, consider hiring several able-bodied folks to lift carryon baggage into the overhead bins. As I observe passengers boarding the plane, they waste little time selecting a seat. What really slows down boarding is stuffing luggage overhead. People block the aisle as they struggle with their luggage. I would gladly pay an extra fee if SW would speed up the boarding process in this fashion.
Never go to the reserved seating system. Not only is it one of your main distinguishing characteristics, it serves as a reminder of just how poorly the other airlines treat passengers. If you are not one of their favored "platinum" status fliers, good luck trying to get a good seat, even months in advance. They simply aren't available.
My simple rule for flying has always been, "If Southwest flies to my desination, I will ALWAYS choose Southwest." The real cattle call is on the other airlines.

As a frequent flyer, whether on business or pleasure, open seating provided by Southwest Airlines is the best. Please don't change your policy. On a side note your new rapid rewards policy is confusing. Using awards with blackout dates was less confusing. Southwest employees are equally confused when attempting to explain the new policy. Thanks
Dennis

If Southwest changes its policies because of allegations by some of its non-customers that they won't fly Southwest until there is assigned seating, it will be yet another example of corporations taking existing customers for granted and even aggravating them in search of a few dollars more. I would be overreacting to say that I would discontinue flying Southwest. But I wouldn't like it as much if I had to deal with assigned seating.

And when the occasion comes that prices are about the same and schedules are about the same and I know that I have to deal with Southwest's assigned seating instead of being able to check in on line and get my "A" card, I will be likely to choose the competitor.

So, please, consider us the loyal before you go after those who are so inflexible that they let this keep them off Southwest.

I travel as a National Sales Manager around 45 weeks a year, all over the U.S. I've done so most of my life. I'm soon to celebrate my 55th birthday, and I'm just starting to feel a little old to make sure I get on line 24 hours to the minute to get a coveted "A" boarding pass and then arrive at the airport and have to still stand in line for about 1 hour in the "A" line to get a seat of my choice. The weeks that I fly Southwest (2 - 4 boardings in the week) I'm wasting over 4 hours of my precious time to serve Southwest. The current "Open" seating system smacks of a "Serve Us Attitude" instead of a "Service Attitude".

Please change it something more humane and friendly to the frequent flier. It's a source of aggravation that causes many people to choose to fly with other airlines.

Cordially,

Elliot G. Goldfarb

Count mine as a YES response, absolutely in favor of assigned seating! From personal conversations with other travelers waiting in line, it is clear that the great majority of SW flyers favor assigned seating. Take a poll any day among the people sitting or standing in any line at any gate and you will get that kind of response. I have never heard one person in line say that they favored open seating. Combined, my wife and I have flown about 25 to 30 SW segments over the past 24 months. We have had enough! Solely because there is no assigned seating, we have decided to stop traveling on SW, unless there just is no other reasonable alternative. I urge SW to implement assigned seatin ASAP.

On our recent trip from Las Vegas because of folks butting in line. The F word was flying... the woman was yelling step back.... I thought the men were going to go at it. Many of children had to wittness this rude behavior. Southwest
folks ignored it! My husband and I will use other airlines whenever possible to AVOID such nasty scenes and
keep our selfs out of harms way. Let folks pick there seats... first come, first served on-line or assign them at
check in.

My feelings about open seating are very simple. Eliminate it!! I dont like seating in a small waiting area-ie Chicago-and having to see people sitting right next to the front using a laptop on the floor. They are trying to be in the best place for Boarding Pass A. dont want to go to a basketball game, baseball game or a play and have to fight for a seat. I certainly dont want to do it on a plane.

I suggest if people want a seat-get on your wonderful website, book a flight and pick one. You can book up to 4 months in advance. If someone tries to book a flight a day before or the last minute-they get whats left, Very simple. I used to travel with 4 children and my wife. I went overseas and stateside over a 20 year military career and also as a civilian. I went home to NY for funerals. I dont want to worry about where I sit.

Thanks.

Richard S./San Antonio, TX

It would get great if those who have their San Diego reservation for when the
"test" is going to occur feel about their 1 in 8 chance of their flight changing
from an open seat flight to an assigned seat flight. Also when will the seat
diagram of the inside of the 737 aircraft going to appear somewhere on
the main southwest.com website. Keep open seating. I'm also curious
about those who are scheduled to change planes in San Diego where there
first plane was open seating and the second was "assigned". Those people
will get a chance to see both procedure in one trip and could give great feedback.

Please, no assigned seating. I have enjoyed the quality and thoughtfulness of every employee that I have ever met on my flights
and I have enjoyed the opportunity to choose my own seat. You are the difference and I choose you to fly. Please don't change.
Nuts about you, Richard J Garcia

I hope it is not too late to chime in, but I just read an article in today's San Antonio Express News about SW entertaining the idea of reserved seating. I've commented many times that SW is fine for a short direct flight, but not for much more than an hour. I'm somewhat tall at 6'1" and find the leg room just too cramped. I'm also fairly wide at 250 lbs., but the aisle and window seats are OK for the short flight, but not that dreaded middle seat! I managed this by getting to the airport early to get an A pass; however, when an hour was not soon enough to get an A pass, I avoided SW even on the short, direct flight in lieu of another airline or my car. Your allowing us to get a pass online within 24 hours brought me back to SW, but still for only the short flights. I will now change planes on SW; whereas, I wouldn't before because that surely meant a B or C pass and the middle seat.

So, until you give me some more leg room, I'll keep it to short hops regardless of what you do with reservations. If they lengthen your landmark turnaround time and costs, I say keep the system as is.

I'm all for the open seating. I enjoy meeting and talking with fellow passengers as we stand in our A, B, or C lines waiting to
board.

I have been flying Southwest for about 15 years. The thing I really like about Southwest is the open seating. At the time I board the
plane, I can make my choice of where I want to sit. If it is a long flight and I do not need to get off quickly, I will generally sit in the back,
if it is a short flight and I need to get off quickly, I will sit in the front. Also I may sit on one side or the other depending on which side
the sun is shinning.

If you move to assigned seating, I will not have the choices I have now in seating and Southwest will be just like any of the other
carriers so I won't have a real reason to fly just on Southwest.

All of us who like the open seating have not made comments before as we had no reason. Now I guess it is time we all speak up.

We have always been happy with the open seating policy of Southwest and feel it puts them ahead in the competition for customer service.Accordingly,we feel you are dropping back in the race for leadership innovation by thinking of any assigned seating arrangement.Please DO NOT CHANGE something which has worked so well. We LUV Southwest and want you to remain the same! Recently returned from Denver vacation and both of our flights were great with our A boarding passes.The status quo is sometimes the smart move.

I loved sitting in the first row of reverse seats so I could carry on conversations easier..usually friendly people sat there. Better than looking at the back of the seat in front of you for several hrs. Miss them.
Anyhow assigned seating? I see the pros and cons but I am particular where I sit so I get there early. What if I have assigned seating and land up next to someone I prefer not to be sitting next to for 3 hrs. I like getting on the plane, looking around, and choose a seat where people look nice, happy, and have that "My vacation starts here look". Nothing would be worse than sitting between 2 people who don't say a word.
Maybe we should seperate the plane into the family with crying kids section, the sleeper's section, the reader's section, the complainer's section, and the fun loving section. Then when you made arrangements for assigned seating SWA could ask you what section you preferred. At least I would know what to expect when I boarded. I would know whether to bring earplugs, a book, my pjs, or my sense of humor.
Have had the greatest SWA flight attendants over the years. We know "nothing stays the same" but could we try not to change everything.

I travel quite often for business and pleasure and SWA has been my first choice for some time. No matter what the purpose of travel is I prefer the open seating policy. For business travel I purchase my tickets within a few days and pay full fare. Without assigned seats I know that I can still get an A group boarding pass and get a window or aisle seat of my choice. Please don't start assigning seats. It doesn't work. When SWA doesn't fly to a city I am travelling then I travel United or American. I have never left on time on those airlines because of the boarding process.

****KEEP OPEN SEATING****

The bottom line folks is this, you want to get from point A to B for a decent fare and you want a seat. Well you bought a ticket and you got a seat. Why complain about what has worked for 35 years. I love open seating and I hope it is here to stay

I guess I do not understand your rush to be like every other airlines: assign seats, slow down the loading process, go broke, and please a few snobby snobby people from California. In your blog you mention that change is inevitable and that not all change is bad. I agree, however, you are changing to a method that is not new and innovative, but a system that has been used, to the point of failure, for years by other airlines. Please do not take this a harsh comment. I love riding Southwest and will go out of my way to do so. You take off and land on time and treat your passengers as family Ã

Why not try this as an experiment: instead of assigning the 'A-B-C' classes when we check in (whether on-line or at the airport), why not assign the seats at the time of check-in (not at the time of the reservation). That way you keep some of the attributes of the current system, and encourage people to make early check-in's, while also ending the 'cattle-call' proletarian image and avoiding the undesirable lines and unruly/impolite line-cutters.

I have been flying Southwest since the early 90's and I have to also cast my vote for on assigned seating. In the quest for additional revenue per seat, you're are trying to imitate the people who are bankrupt in the first place (or close to it of course). In most cases your flights are consistently full and what has made you money has been what has made you DIFFERENT, not the same.

Everyone who knows me understands that I look at your web site first to see if there is a flight to my destiniation, but if I am going to end up on the "back of the bus" as one blogger put it, then I might be tempted to look at other planes for a better seat.

Please just leave the seats as they are. Thanks with LUV!

I'm one of those frequent fliers who avoid SWA because there is no assigned seating. There is typically no way for me to check in early enough to get an 'A' boarding pass (short of hiring one of the businesses that will do that for me). I welcome the change to assigned seating and look forward to giving SWA a larger share of my domestic travel as this becomes available on flights to/from SLC.

I fly approximately 40 trips annually and in the course of a calendar year fly at least once on all domestic airlines.

I have not taken the time to read the comments above. I am reacting to a story in the San Antonio Express News, Saturday
June 24, 2006. I can make this simple. I truly enjoy flying SWA and have no desire to see it become like the other airlines. If I need
an assigned seat - which is rare - I can always fly them. If I need a flight ontime, with a fun crew, at a great cost, with maximum
flexibility for my schedule......I fly SWA. Please do not become like the other airlines. You can not please all of your passengers.
However, they have a hard time pleasing any of theirs!!!!!! Please don't do anything to damage the SWA culture of fast turn times.

Please do not go to assigned seating as this is the best thing about Southwest Airlines due to the fact that when I am forced to use another carrier I always get the middle seat in the rear of the airplane. KEEP THE SEATING ARRANGEMENT THAT YOU HAVE PRESENTLY. Thank YOU

PLEASE! Leave the open seating as it is! This is one of the great pluses flying Southwest. I avoid flying with other airlines because Southwest HAS open seating.

Although I don't have the privilege of traveling much these days, Southwest has always been my airline of choice - if you could get me there and back! In fact, I am NUTS about Southwest! Your flights are the most relaxed, friendly, and FUN of any I have ever had the privilege of being a part of.

I am elated with the news regarding the Wright Amendment.....and only hope that one day SWA will be able to fly from 'anywhere' to 'anywhere' (regardless of the envy other airlines may have). I love the 'funny stuff' your pilots come up with. 'I have always liked the 'open seating' arrangement - if it ain't broke, don't fix it!

Mr. Kelly,

There's an old adage that has served the wise well over the years: If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

As a very frequent flyer of PSA in California in the 70s, one of their strongest points for passenger satisfaction was the open seating that allowed one to race through the airport and catch a flight. Their InstaTicket was a stroke of genious for the harried business passenger. I always had a stack of those in my briefcase to fill in and rip from the fanfolded stack.

Sadly, I watched as management too far removed from the founders started tinkering with what worked so well for PSA, e.g., diversifying their fleet away from the B727s and expanding into markets already saturated. And so PSA is no more.

Herbie took the PSA model and fine tuned it, ignoring the mistakes of the Johnny-come-latelies, creating undoubtedly the most successful -- and most influential -- airline ever to fly. That's why, as infrequently as I fly now (once or twice a year), I book on line with SWA. Maybe it's a nostalgia thing, PSA all over again, including the casual irreverence.

Perhaps as suggested the compromise is to have a first class section for those few who just have to have the royal treatment. Frankly, I have to believe that most of your customers prefer that you continue to be profitable and operate those great ontime schedules with the ability of the customer to show up at the gate credit card in hand to hop the LUV Bird.

I fly in my business about 50,000 to 75,000 miles a year.

There are 3 things I think about when I purchase a ticket.

1. Price
2. Schedule
3. Comfort

Your seating assignments are not what affect my comfort, as I travel by myself, and just about any seat will do, please just keep the seat comfortable and large enough I can conduct some work on my laptop. Good light and fresh air are important.

Price is atttractive to me in a small business, and I will pick a less comfortable schedule and airline if I can save over $50. If not, I'll pick
the higher price everytime if it is within reason.

Cost of doing business is one thing that helps SouthWest Airlines compete and keep their price within reason, while making a profit.

If changing the seating option changes your revenue and or profit for the negative, I would seriously consider not implementing a change.

Afterall, one of the "talked about" processes in the industry is what makes SouthWest unique.

Are you prepared to accept that your "just like any other airline" when people forget about your unique seating assignment.

I for one believe you receive some positive influence from customer referals over your current seating system.

BTW, I have minimal SouthWest experience, as you have only recently enterred our market here in Denver.

I live in Albuquerque, NM and have been flying on SWA since the airline was first started. I average at least one flighr per month
and think that SWA is the best airline in the country! Please dont change the open seating policy. The open seating is one of
the main reasons that SWA is my first choice whenever I fly. Your present system of obtaining boarding passes is the fairest in
the industry and your reservation web site is the best of any airline in the world. At one time I had over one million frequent
flyer miles on the so called major airlines but today the only airline that I fly is SWA! Please keep your present open seating
system. Thank you for allowing me to submit my comments.

Why not let the ones who pay full fare have the first choice, they are the ones who keep the company afloat, not the cheap seat people. I love the freedom of open seating. This is not the lemming airline. I like to choose who I want and dont want to sit by. With other airlines I get stuck with the potty seat or someone annoying. On other airlines that I have flown with assigned seating the problem was that after everyone finally found the seats then the flight attendent would announce that since there is empty seats you can change to where you want to sit then that causes delays because everyone starts to play musical chairs. I agree that the ones who want to be told were to sit are not frequent flyers and they are just whinners. Who wants to be told where they have to sit at, thats not fair. What would help alot is if the flight attendents would make sure that passengers would save the bins for roll on bags and have everyone place small items under the seats like they are supposed to. That is the problem with getting on last.. Dont listen to the children who want to be told where to sit let us adults choose for ourselves

I fly several times a month and Southwest is the last airline I check. Southwest has great fares and schedules.
Open seating makes SW my last choice. I see no reason to stand for an hour in line just to get the seat of choice.
SW start assigning seats and I will fly you more often.

I have been flying SWA ever since you first started, and have always hated standing in line to board. At the beginning it wasn't too bad, but now it is like a herd of cattle headed to the feed yard. I have always thought assigned seating would work best. And now that we can get a boarding pass on line, that doesn't help me cause I usually fly senior citizen fare and have to show ID, which I don't mind. So definitely do assigned seating.

If those who carry their large suitcases would check them in instead of stuffing them in the overhead (always in a hurry with no consideration of others type people) and 'saving' seats were barred ( If nobody is in the seat I sit down and to heck with the person 'saving' it...yea I risk an altercation but he who initiates it will be thrown off) then maybe first-come is ok- I prefer to fly those airlines that have reserved seating - I'd rather pay more than have to sit between two fat people or those that can't afford soap,
have a cold / flu / whatever or want to talk my ear off with their life story / problems...etc etc.

As a not-so-frequent flyer, but a Rapid Rewards Member, my wife and I would chose assigned seating. We try to book our flights at the earliest possible date and then having to get in a line like some animal at a livestock yard is not only demeening but also frustrating. We have observed on more than one accasion, most recently on a flight from Las Vegas to Seattle, confrontations as to who is or is not in line. If someone is "in line" but sitting on the floor, others consider them not in line and try or do break the line. This was so true on our Seattle flight whereby the passenger sitting asked the gate attendant to call security. The person standing not only tried to break the line once, but did it twice, which then caused the gate attendant to talk to him, which didn't make him happy either. Further, some passengers use their carry on luggage to hold their place in line, which, quite often, causes them serious frustrations especially if you have to use the restroom. Also, as a Senior Citizen, it's not as easy for us to stand or sit in line, like the youngsters, hoping we'll get a seat we like.

I know one reason for the open seating routine is to board the plane more efficiently, however I don't see where this has helped at all. If the plane is loaded from back to front, what could be more efficient than that? With people chosing a seat anywhere, they will hold up the line behind them, regardless of where those passengers sit, assigned or not.

Thank you for listening to me and thank you for considering a change us Seniors would appreciate.

If it ain't broke - don't fix it! Your current seating strategy works great and provides the most efficient and effective method for getting butts in the seats.

Efficient - since it minimizes the time it takes to get everyone on board a full flight (chairs, babies, overhead bags, etc.). aAlso minimizes the FA's time having to sort everyone out. Imagine the fights over the seats (hey mister, I'm in 18F!).

Effective - no one wants the middle seat but hey...at least you have a choice. Between the two sumo wrestlers or the two college girls? Hmmmm, let me think about that one! Kinda like making your own tacos at a Mexican buffet, no complaints!

Seems the only ones who really don't like SWA's seating ops are those who are not familiar with the system. Maybe make if more fun for newbies? Better pre-board briefings?

I applaude your willingness to experiment with the system to see if it can reduce costs. (not sure how but I gotta believe thats your motivation). Is this like the dual boarding bridge experiment?

One things for certain, SWA is best airline flying and I hope you keep it that way!

I like the open seating option on Southwest and I fly almost weekly. On a recent fiight from Dallas to New York on American, me
and 2 co-workers were jammed up side-by-side in three seats. After the doors closed, the back row of seats were completely
empty. I asked a flight attendant if I could move to one of the empty seats and she said, "No! these seats are for the crew". Oh,
really, I thought they were for paying customers. The crew piled their coats and bags and lunches in the back seats.

Southwest's open-seating allows me to pick my seat (pardon the pun). If I'm one of the last on then I get the luck of the draw. I
don't mind.

One minor irritant, sometimes when I turn on the reading light above my seat, the light shines on my head, or shoulder, or the
seat next to me, can you check the alighnment of the reading lights occasionally?

Well, maybe a second minor irritant. I always check my bags to avoid having to wrestle them down the aisles. Only twice have I
had a bag delayed and it was returned promptly by SWA. If everyone would check their steamer trunks instead of insisting they
carry on, everybody would get in the air faster.

SWA, keep up the good work!

The best thing about not having assigned seats is that you can avoid the Kids on flights. Once you preboard them, I can then sit farterth away on a long flight so as not to be disturbed with crying etc. The old system is fast and effective and as a Companion Pass Member...I want it to stay as is!!

I have flown on SW since SEPTEMBER, 1971 and do today nearly every week and have earned a companion pass for nearluy 10 years I AM VERY MUCH AGAINST ASSIGNED SEATING.

Go fly on Continental, Delta or United and observe how it takes them 40-50 minutes to board everyone. You have beenm very successfuly for 35 years doing it your way, so do not listen to a few whiners.

As full as each flight I take each week is, not having assigned seats is not costing you business.

Mike

I can tell by the tone of Mr. Kelly's post that management has *already*made*up*their*minds*! HUGE Mistake! Ditching open seating is the same as Coca-Cola dropping "Real" Coke a few years ago. This upper management group will run Southwest into bankruptcy court within two years.

Bobber

To the Top Guns at Southwest:
Recently I have read of a plan to at least "test fly" assigned seating on Southwest. PLEASE REMEMBER. . It is ain't broke, don't fix it!" There are so many things right with Southwest - friendly people, clean, comfortable, ON TIME airplanes, on line ticketing and boarding passes - - don't imitate the others (they went bankrupt remember?!) Just keep doing what works! Thanks for listening!

This thread has gotten too long for me to wade through, so I'll just say I'm in favor of keeping the open seating the way it is. When I first flew Southwest I thought the cattle-call seating was a joke. But after six years of flying SWA four or five times a year I've come to appreciate it. I'd just as soon not have to listen to poorly-mannered children scream in my ear, thank you. At least with the open seating I can get some distance away from them.

We are truly dinosaurs who remember Herb when he was a SA lawyer drawing plans on the "napkin and all his associates at" X " firm who did not to invest". Having many choices, we have always favored open seating and what it stands for. Get up a little early, grab your coffee and shoot for the "A" group. Now the contest is to be the 1st to get your boarding pass on line. I can promise you that if you go to assigned seating then you have joined the pack and slide back into mediocracy with AA and Continental and the only thing that will differentiate your market will be price. Why change, you have a very sucessful marketing plan ?

I choose to fly SWA because of wide choice of flights & more reasonable prices. But open seating brings out the worst in people. Standing in the "A" "B" or "C" line for an hour is anxiety causing, because people are such hogs. If everyone would be courteous & follow the "rules," it could work, but we know that there are always those people who believe that the rules don't apply to them. And the Southwest personnel don't help - at all. If the protocol for lining up could be announced and reinforced by Southwest attendants, it might be better. But it's every man for himself. SWA also needs to enforce the rules about carry-ons. Some people carry on so much stuff, that there is no room in the overhead compartments for those who don't board first - and hence the anxiety about boarding first! Gary - there needs to be a better way ....

I think this assigned seating issue is just a smokescreen for a bigger issue that will be coming down the pipeline over the next months. That issue will be the inability of Rapid Rewards members to utilize their award tickets with the ease that they can use them now. When the new policy of 24 month expirations with NO BLACKOUTS came out, all of us were supposed to get real excited about this great deal.

What the fine print said was don't expect to get a guaranteed seat (even if one is available) since there will be a LIMITED number of RR award seats available on every flight. As those of us with "old" RR awards gradually use up those awards, I'm betting that we will find it increasingly difficult to find an available seat using a RR award. When that happens, SWA will be just like the other airlines frequent flyer programs.

So now we will lose our ability to use our RR award ,but they want to assign us a seat on a flight we won't be able to take. I agree with the majority of the bloggers above me: if you want to be more like the other failing airlines, keep proposing changes like the new RR award and the assigned seating.

Five years ago, I switched all my credit cards to a SW Visa card and started flying exlusively on SWA. I have now almost come full circle: looks like I'll be switching credit cards again and go back to my original frequent flyer program. At least I can fly to Denver and Kona again using frequent flyer miles.

I've been a business traveler for 25 years and many times have passed on SW so I knew where I would be sitting.

Even more so when my wife travels with me. There have been times when circumstances required flying SW and several cases

where we couldn't sit together. ASSIGNED SEATS---THE SOONER THE BETTER !!!

No doubt my comments will be redundant so I add this only as my vote: don't get rid of the current seating policy. There is a culture that has evolved among SW passengers that makes it the most efficient airline to board. On no other airline do passengers board so quickly. Assigned seating is a step backwards. Let's face it: flying today is the new public transportation. Can you imagine boarding a city commuter train or bus and having an assigned seat? Move quickly and plunk it down! The tedious boarding process on the other airlines is archaic. In my mind SW will lose their fast turn around time at the gate, but SW will find that out in a hurry. Moving fast from point A to point B, even if it is cross country, is all we want from our airlines.

Regarding seat assignments -- we really wish you would add that! Having no seat assignment often makes the difference in which airline we choose to fly. Except for that, Southwest has been a great way to travel. With no seat assignment, you typically end up standing in a disorganized line from the moment you arrive at the gate until you board the plane, and sometimes that is a very long time. Often the lines zig zag in ways that make it difficult to even find the end. Often there are people (usually teenagers) who are literally lying on the floor, eating their meal, drinking their drinks, reading their books, with their bags and food spread around them like they are the only passenger, while others who are trying to "find" the line have a hard time doing so. We would strongly encourage you to add seat assignments. For those who do not want seat assignments, let them stand in line and board after everyone else! :-)

Please don't change open seating. We love it. We've flown other airlines and it never fails that someone is sitting in our seat and we're told to take another seat, which just adds to the problem.

Assigned seating is the way to go. It's not the concept of open seating that's so bad, it's the execution. People lining up
sometimes hours before a flight, congested gate areas, people all over the floor. Passengers who put their bags in line then go
sit down are the ultimate in rude. I'd fly almost any other airline except Southwest , but because my company requires we take the
lowest fare I'm usually stuck with Southwest. I don't even claim my frequent flyer miles because I wouldn't travel on Southwest for personal travel, instead I'll pay more and know I have an assigned seat and not subject my family to having to sit on the hard
ground for an hour just to get a reasonable seat. The message from Southwest is "We don't care about you because we know
you'll take whatever we dish out to save a buck" or maybe the slogan should be "You're just Cargo"

I went against my better judgement and flew Southwest several weeks ago to get to Chicago from Nashville. Participating
in the cattle call you folks call boarding convinced me to cancel a flight scheduled to Omaha on SW the next week, choosing
to book on Delta.

Sorry, but I'm not interested in having to stand in line for a seat, especially when I've booked the flight weeks, even months before.
That comment someone made about being able to book at the last minute and still get a window or aisle--- hey, didn't
your parents teach you that there are consequences to procrastination? Book late-- lousy seat. That's justice.

I'll never fly SW again--- well, I guess I have to use that cancelled ticket at some point, but believe me, I'll dread every
minute of it.

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