This episode of Red Belly Radio is for those of you who feel the urge to smoke and/or use your cell phones on aircraft. You probably know you shouldn’t do either of those things on a flight but have you ever wondered what happens if you do?

I speak with Southwest Airlines Flight Attendant, Neicee Coulson about what happens when someone gets caught smoking in the aircraft lav and First Officer Roy Alan explains why cell phones interfere with the electronics on board and why it is okay to use some electronics above 10,000 feet. As part of this interview in the cockpit,  This episode even has a demonstration of how electronics can affect other electronics; listen to the interview in the cockpit with Ray. Some people might just call it a hum in the background—I call it a demonstration.